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Blanket Reciprocity?

Volunteer

Why couldn't states with similar climate, soils, building conditions rationalize their building codes with each other and issue a blanket authorization for both state's architects to practice in the other, bypassing the NCARB altogether? Is there really any difference in building in Atlanta vs Birmingham or anywhere in North Dakota vs. anywhere in South Dakota?  

 
Jan 27, 18 10:28 am
archinine
That would require multiple governments to be efficient, logical and collaborative...also none of those governances have anything to gain by doing what you suggest.
Jan 27, 18 2:42 pm

Disappointed. Thought this was going to be about sharing a blanket.

Jan 27, 18 7:05 pm
accesskb

caaaaachinggg! its all about moneyyy.. Is there anything not about profits in America?

Jan 27, 18 8:11 pm
RickB-Astoria

NOPE. U.S. is ran by the Ferengi.


jla-x

Protectionism from interstate competition...

Volunteer

Well regional certification is about about taking money OUT of the pocket of the NCARB and putting back IN the account of the architect. Think of it as common-sense deregulation, or your very own $1,000 bonus (many times over).

Jan 28, 18 7:02 am
RickB-Astoria

Why don't we just have a nation-wide reciprocity without NCARB nonsense?

Volunteer

Because many areas of the country are vastly different as to climate, soils, weather extremes. You would not want an architect in Miami to go Wyoming and design a mountain home in ski country without additional training. Who would give the training when needed needs to be determined. I don't think the NCARB is presently qualified to do so in any case.

tintt

Reciprocity currently doesn't require more education with the exception of CA.

RickB-Astoria

Volunteer, Architects are suppose to be trained adequately for any environment. For a so called "Professional" degree of Architecture.... it seems like it isn't that professional. You shouldn't be educated in the requirements of a single environment. As it is, NCARB certification doesn't trained anything. As it is, we aren't suppose to be trained to a different environment. I can design a mountain home in the Antarctic if that was the design criteria to be met. I would have to take into consideration snow load, temperatures, etc. In Wyoming, I wouldn't be designing for snow loads in Astoria, Oregon. I would be designing with snow load on the roof for a lot heavier snow load. I would be designing with more heavier structural systems in mind. It is the same idea I would be adjusting design for the location. I would refer to local building codes or if there is no prescriptive code guidance or any code guidance to approach more scientifically through a more research oriented process. Luckily, we don't need to invent the wheel anymore as most places already have building code guidance. California and Alaska are a couple places that comes to mind in terms of exceptions. It is what we do.

joseffischer

Thank you Tintt... I was like, extra training, lol

ednagarrett

Why don't we just have a  reciprocity?

Jan 28, 18 7:58 am
jla-x

This argument about local conditions makes no sense.  Take California for instance....there are many different biomes within the state that vary greatly.  Look at TX, AZ, CO, etc.  The natural conditions vary greatly with the state as much as with other states in many cases.  This is all about state protectionism.  $$$



Jan 28, 18 10:54 am
jla-x

And to add, what’s the point of licensing if architects can’t even be trusted to use care when building in a state/environment that they are not familiar with? Kinda negates the idea that architecture licensing equates to professionalism and competence no?

jla-x

State lines do not divide biomes.

bass assassin

Article 1 of the Constitution is a big sticking point.

Volunteer

Well, take California for example. An architect licensed there should be familiar with all the different areas of that state. If neighboring states have the same features he should be allowed to design there as well without paying the NCARB one thin dime.

That doesn't mean he is qualified to go design a house in the Louisiana swamp. Take for instance Brad Pitt's starchitects he commissioned for his post-Katrina houses. Many of those have succumbed to rot and mildew and are uninhabitable because said starchitects had no idea what they were doing in the New Orleans climate.

If they had been required to study elements of successful houses like the Gulf Coast Cottages before going they would have been miles ahead and their homes might still be useful. They would have been aware that the homes were elevated, not just in case of high water but to circulate air in the humid climate to promote drying along with few dozen more features. They would not have to copy a certain style but to assume they could just brazen in after coughing up money to the NCARB and design something for the trendy magazines and leave was a train wreck.   

Jan 28, 18 2:32 pm
Finjohn

That would be logical and rational. But if you put any one of those words in front of the word 'government' it becomes an oxymoron. 

Mar 18, 19 5:41 pm

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