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    Sorry

    By Thom Moran
    Oct 6, '04 6:13 PM EST

    I have realized that my earlier comments were not well received. I deleted the entries to avoid any further problems. I have been under too much pressure and I am venting in the wrong way.

    I never meant to discourage people from attending Yale, I really love the program. However, my pointed comments were inappropriate and definately gave that impression. For that I am truly sorry.

    I hope to give a better impression in the future, but I have not been sleeping much and just feel pretty terrible. I will not let that color my entries from now on.

    Again, accept my apologies and we can move on with this project in a more constructive manner.

    TTFN



     
    • 13 Comments

    • b3tadine[sutures]

      what happened, did you get found out or did Petey give you a rough rectal exam?

      Oct 7, 04 7:50 am

      omg... my archinect blog has stirred up a lot of gossip, etc. don't let it get you down. post freely and often. long live personal expression.

      Oct 7, 04 1:46 pm
      archetecton

      IF YOU CAN RECOCER THOSE BLOG ENTRIES, I WOULD SUGGEST DOING SO. DO NOT LET SOME ASININE RESPONDANT COLOR OR CENSOR YOUR FEELINGS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO GET AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES, TRIALS AND EMOTIONAL UPS AND DOWNS OF EACH SCHOOL.

      I AM SORRY YOU HAD TO ENDURE SOMEONE'S DEFENSIVE ADMONISHMENT, BUT PLEASE WRITE FREELY AND EXPRESSIVELY, OR THERE IS NO NEED TO WRITE. YOU CAN AND SHOULD GO BACK AND REFLECT ON THESE IN-THE-MOMENT, EMOTIONAL ENTRIES LATER.

      KEEP WRITING!

      Oct 7, 04 5:48 pm
      Alexander Bohn

      one thing you might do is set up a blog external to this one for ranting, under an assumed name (twopairsofpants?). you get to have your internet steam-release freakouts, and no one feels that good names have been smeared.

      -fish

      Oct 8, 04 2:02 am
      Gabriel Duarte

      I do agree with Steve Fuchs and archetecton.
      Keep writing about exactly the way you feel about your program and school, either complimenting or criticizing it...
      Wasn't it the essential aim of this school-blog project?
      To show what is not written in brochures or websites?
      A weblog is like an open diary, therefore, very personal.
      You don't need to refrain from showing personal opinions and feelings.
      Keep up the good work!

      Oct 8, 04 12:16 pm
      fun with fractals

      Yo Pants, I think you need a bit more sleep.
      Your profuse apologies, with no other blogs, makes it look like you were asked to take your stuff down. Since that's not the case, (as your classmate), I hope you will post something new soon. You're our student rep, and for a guy who always has tons of intelligent things to say, I'm surprised that it's currently your only comment. . .

      Oct 9, 04 6:14 pm
      Bloopox

      Thomas: count me among those who hope you'll restore at least some of your previous comments.
      I'm a Yale alum have to admit I winced a little reading the one entry that criticized a particular faculty member. I do feel you have every right to write that, but in my own professional life I ended up in a situation of direct frequent contact with a former professor - of whom I was outspokenly critical as a student. The awkwardness of that makes me wish I'd edited some of my own statements as a student. That was before the internet or I'm sure I'd have written something similar to the post you removed. Still, I thought your comments were fair and useful for anyone curious about Yale (though I agree with someone who'd commented that the faculty and curriculum changes so rapidly that to evaluate the school on one professor teaching one class would have limited value.)
      I take it from one of the other Yale blogs that you weren't really asked to remove the post, but that you may have spurred one of those admin-confronts-the-disgruntled-students type of meetings. I think this is a Yale strength and that they do take students seriously. Yale has direct student involvement in the development of the curriculum, in admissions, and pretty much every aspect of the program.
      I always felt it was better when all or most of the students were polled (confronted?) at once. That's because, if anything, sometimes I felt the admin took individual student comments and complaints SO seriously that there was potential for a small contingent of the class working behind the scenes to manipulate this system by representing themselves as speaking for the whole class when in fact they didn't always. So, while I can understand your discomfort at what transpired, it's likely that what you caused was helpful (or will be in the long run.) In your blog you made it very clear that these were your own opinions and experiences, which I respect.
      I hope you'll put back your earlier posts. Good luck with the rest of the semester.

      Oct 9, 04 10:37 pm
      kcleveland

      I very much would have liked to read your comments on hazing within architecture school. I am also a student of an architecture program in the Northeast and have also recently encountered hazing. It is unfortunate that professors feel a need to teach this way. Isn't there a more constructive way to teach architecture without resorting to exploiting their students? We all would most likely produce a higher quality of work if so much stress and pressure was not involved in our educations. Ulcers and psychiatry visits should not be a requirement of graduating from and architecture program. The following is an article I found recently on this very subject. Hope you enjoy.

      http://www.archvoices.org/index.cfm?pg=Resources&s=Library&d=Librarydetail&LID=16&MaxResults=20&startrow=1&searchwords=Bibliographies&lineNbr=1

      Oct 12, 04 8:41 pm
      SurfaceS

      I never even got a chance to read your smear campaigns! Damn!

      But I was just going to offer this advice. Vent all you want. Say whatever you want. But always make sure that the venting is happening through YOUR lens. For example, instead of saying "Professor X is an idiot, abusive hack who treats students like subhumans" you could say, "I'm really offended/appalled by the critique and treatment I've received from Professor X. S/he said 'blablalbla' and I never got a chance to defend myself. This is especially difficult for me because I don't like/agree with the work S/he does as a practicing architect." Or, you know, whatever makes sense in the context of your rant. "Classmate Z is an annoying jerk," Vs. "It annoys me when Classmate Z doesn't bathe for 3 days and comes into studio and blasts butt rock at 2 am."

      My opinion is that you can rant as long as you make it clear it's your opinion and how you feel.

      Oct 14, 04 3:59 pm
      Archinect

      have you abandoned your blog? please let us know if we want to keep it open.

      Oct 26, 04 7:17 pm
      casualdesign

      blog abandonning is just a cool thing to do.

      another other cool thing to do is comment blog. here we go....

      today i started looking through a day long project that i wasnt sure i would finish with all the distractions. there is an art show to prepare for in denver, which led me here anyway. archinect comes up on google now. i remember way back in 2000 comin here. it was small but hey, look at it now... so the other distraction is playing poker on ultimatebet. if i finish everything then that is what i will do. i wish i had a professor from yale as a friend to run different ideas by. the one i had today was the idea of being distracted and having to go through all of this crap to finally get to what is considered the meat. so in architecture this would be like having all these crappy ideas that you have to visualize or try out in models and simulations and then finally when you get to the meat, one freezes and doesnt know what to do. thats the pure moment. then the brain tried to salvage earlier ideas and refine them or some other design sense takes over and appropriates readily available or automated symbols, language, whatever and glosses over years of concepts and theories.

      so then comes a second pure moment. and i dont know what that is. maybe someone could continue the thought. some people instead of this systematic approach use luck, or try to really focus on what theyre doing, being honest and just might happen to make something that reaches what could be considered second pure.

      so to summarize this: what happens is a wave of crap, push that aside, freeze, think of better ideas, fail miserably at executing them, push that aside, i dont know what, maybe a new direction.

      so this gets bigger and bigger and people enter in at different levels.

      thats all for today

      Dec 5, 04 4:39 am
      Suture

      maybe he was just not cut out to make it at an Ivy.

      Jan 22, 05 2:20 pm
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