im back in Ohio...God's country. Nothing better than the dude living in the piece of shit barn on the side of the freeway with the conferdertate flag telling me that I am going to go to hell if I dont believe in Jesus...
this from a guy living in a barn on the side of the freeway
A lot of architects commit blasphemy....look at the amount of them with glasses on! God chose to gift them with limited eyesight and yet there they are defying his intentions. Surely these heathens should be punished for their crimes?
No amount of anecdotal examples could satisfactorily demonstrate that there is something inherent in the practice of architecture (or good architecture) that implies atheism.
It seem the web responsable disagrea --- in this discussion about religion pictures are cencured, and I wonder very much why.
If this is a religious statement from the web responsible or just plain american Cencur . --- Now I place the picture theat the staff found had to be cencured that is removed, the one Urbanist asked about , and then let's see if cencur realy is relevant in discussions about religion, --- I don't know if it was the cross or what made the staff remove this picture , but you can think about that ;
Such a picture will not render , reson for that you must ask the staff or the web architect who interfere in these open discussions, --- In Eu, such interfere into discussions about arts and architecture and religion, was last time seen under the Nazi and the soviet where the same selfreigous Cencur was installed . If you asked those who manifested Cencur in artistic and religious matters, they would all say it was for the good of all, and that art must be cencured aswell as religious messeages in pictures must be banned, --- today this is the politics here in this fora.
I don't think there are less Cristian architects now than there was a year ago. But I don't think christian architects so much refere to catholic architects , beside there are much truth in what agfa8x said ;
"Or you could say that an architect is expressing God's creative will as one of his works, in which case architecture is a kind of worship."
In that case it wouldn't make a difference if what you do is architecture or arts.
I didn't thake it serious if that please you, beside it's pure nonsense that obviously havn't has a say before said here, then beside most architect would see it as an honour to serve as architect baumeister or whatever in terms of, a church structure.
Also ,I read about catolic artists architects Designers,,, who at old age plee for a contribuation being arogantly denied in ther minds of catolic church, cases where in fact the church would have provided better , allowing just a piece of good will --- even after a wild youth --where a Cristian will attemt things different , we know what we got and that can be made better ,but this was the old day's those old hero's is allmost gone . Or are they ?
"No amount of anecdotal examples could satisfactorily demonstrate that there is something inherent in the practice of architecture (or good architecture) that implies atheism."
- fine, but then it should not be a problem to bring up a single good religious architect. please please please. just one.
An architect only need to honer a religion ,I find that a provocative ; a good architect will know what to focus a bad will proberly stay vere very tradisional misreading the real provocative. Strange btw. that relegious structures seem no so exposed as commersial, museums, offices :Icons
are different today to, who want a church with a 20 year life span ?
I don't know if god has humor , if so it seem to be a very destinct one, with the link above, either this is how the world work generaly, or someone made a point.
Antoni Gaudi, but that's not the way it works. No amount of anecdotal evidence for or against your proposition can demonstrate the kind of claim you're making.
rfuller: no i guess I was not serious. I still think however that an architect is a kind of magus or magician, manipulating environments for the common good, using means that are pre-christian and hence a bit under suspicion by the church. like Adam, he delves.
I can't figure out, if a religious architect would acturly work. If a truely religious would has the fire the thirst spark, coverage and need in fact.
And those just cristian ,the best of them I guess, would neglect by other resons, So I don't know if a religious architect, can be humble.
Why are there so few graphics , exactly this subject would profit some fancy graphics, a general idea and some beautifull paintings , painting are Finer than architecture as you know ,therefore, if you are looking for a good architect look for one who paint nice pictures . I can't see what shuld be wrong about my pictures;
meta, most christians would disagree that religious experience is just a matter of effects created by architecture. as an architect, you're free to disagree of course.
Maybe you are right in terms of church architecture, as a master builder there offcaurse will newer build without understandint the particular religion, and so serve better than an architect with same religion who will not bring in the same as a builder who need to investigate into the religion.
christian architects
The Holy Family sees my architecture as divine!
You could say that an architect assumes the divine right of the creator, in which case he or she is presuming to be God, and is therefore blasphemous.
Or you could say that an architect is expressing God's creative will as one of his works, in which case architecture is a kind of worship.
I don't understand your point 2, or your last sentence.
i would imagine there are a number of italian and south american architects that are devout catholics.
True, and in old day's the church promoted a lot of what we today know as splendid art, but there architecture was only a part of it.
It's easier with art than with architecture, to reconise ,and there it will often be symbols.
PerCorrell, what's the image you linked there?
im back in Ohio...God's country. Nothing better than the dude living in the piece of shit barn on the side of the freeway with the conferdertate flag telling me that I am going to go to hell if I dont believe in Jesus...
this from a guy living in a barn on the side of the freeway
A lot of architects commit blasphemy....look at the amount of them with glasses on! God chose to gift them with limited eyesight and yet there they are defying his intentions. Surely these heathens should be punished for their crimes?
Urbanist it's the last put in silver screen galleri
architecture is number, proportion, dimension which is numerology which is seen by the churches as sorcery, punishable by death
Very well said.
It seem the web responsable disagrea --- in this discussion about religion pictures are cencured, and I wonder very much why.
If this is a religious statement from the web responsible or just plain american Cencur . --- Now I place the picture theat the staff found had to be cencured that is removed, the one Urbanist asked about , and then let's see if cencur realy is relevant in discussions about religion, --- I don't know if it was the cross or what made the staff remove this picture , but you can think about that ;
Above there shuld be a link to a picture.
Good American Discussion style involve Cencur, esp art has to be cencured case it carry religious messeages as this ;
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5736/sta60176jz9.jpg
Such a picture will not render , reson for that you must ask the staff or the web architect who interfere in these open discussions, --- In Eu, such interfere into discussions about arts and architecture and religion, was last time seen under the Nazi and the soviet where the same selfreigous Cencur was installed . If you asked those who manifested Cencur in artistic and religious matters, they would all say it was for the good of all, and that art must be cencured aswell as religious messeages in pictures must be banned, --- today this is the politics here in this fora.
i was surprised to see how many people replied to this thread yet only a couple were in response to meeting up.
aren't there other threads for this kind of discussion? give the guy a break and let him find people to hang out with
haha i feel stupid for replying to a thread that was started over a year ago. ignore me or mock me
I don't think there are less Cristian architects now than there was a year ago. But I don't think christian architects so much refere to catholic architects , beside there are much truth in what agfa8x said ;
"Or you could say that an architect is expressing God's creative will as one of his works, in which case architecture is a kind of worship."
In that case it wouldn't make a difference if what you do is architecture or arts.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5788/sta60155dq3.jpg
farmer, you can't be serious...
I didn't thake it serious if that please you, beside it's pure nonsense that obviously havn't has a say before said here, then beside most architect would see it as an honour to serve as architect baumeister or whatever in terms of, a church structure.
Also ,I read about catolic artists architects Designers,,, who at old age plee for a contribuation being arogantly denied in ther minds of catolic church, cases where in fact the church would have provided better , allowing just a piece of good will --- even after a wild youth --where a Cristian will attemt things different , we know what we got and that can be made better ,but this was the old day's those old hero's is allmost gone . Or are they ?
"No amount of anecdotal examples could satisfactorily demonstrate that there is something inherent in the practice of architecture (or good architecture) that implies atheism."
- fine, but then it should not be a problem to bring up a single good religious architect. please please please. just one.
An architect only need to honer a religion ,I find that a provocative ; a good architect will know what to focus a bad will proberly stay vere very tradisional misreading the real provocative. Strange btw. that relegious structures seem no so exposed as commersial, museums, offices :Icons
are different today to, who want a church with a 20 year life span ?
Sorry wrong graphic format .
When you ask where to find a good architect, my advise are, to look for one that also paint good.
And Cristian offcaurse !
I don't know if god has humor , if so it seem to be a very destinct one, with the link above, either this is how the world work generaly, or someone made a point.
Antoni Gaudi, but that's not the way it works. No amount of anecdotal evidence for or against your proposition can demonstrate the kind of claim you're making.
But what it mean anyway how splendid an architect, with a world that work like this ;
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009519090
In other words..no, but lets self induldge in some shitty art and try to link the two topics.
rfuller: no i guess I was not serious. I still think however that an architect is a kind of magus or magician, manipulating environments for the common good, using means that are pre-christian and hence a bit under suspicion by the church. like Adam, he delves.
Do "good" Jewish architects count as religious?
Marcel Breuer
Elizabeth Diller
Peter Eisenman
Frank Gehry
Louis Kahn
Daniel Libeskind
Richard Meier
Eric Owen Moss
Richard Neutra
Robert A. M. Stern
The subject was christian architects.
Yeah Per, but the challenge was "religious" "good" architects. It was a little tongue-in-cheek answer.
I can't figure out, if a religious architect would acturly work. If a truely religious would has the fire the thirst spark, coverage and need in fact.
And those just cristian ,the best of them I guess, would neglect by other resons, So I don't know if a religious architect, can be humble.
Why are there so few graphics , exactly this subject would profit some fancy graphics, a general idea and some beautifull paintings , painting are Finer than architecture as you know ,therefore, if you are looking for a good architect look for one who paint nice pictures . I can't see what shuld be wrong about my pictures;
meta, most christians would disagree that religious experience is just a matter of effects created by architecture. as an architect, you're free to disagree of course.
As long it's not God you disagrea.
i agree architects are natural atheists
what a joy we are free from slavery to church building of the middle ages
nobody knows face it and it does seem like schizophrenia to make them up and have such a 'faith'
only 'christian'??!! i mean why not Any and all religious architects because you are so fell in your supernatural worldview
;)
Do you see today's Icons a paralell to the middle ages church buildings ?
for an enlightening debate go here
i think it says more about dogma and ideological positions if anything...
this is a better link for that debate the server is busy on the other link
can this thread be crucified and left to die? please?
Rebuild the Twin Towers.
Nah, tk. It'll only come back in 3 days.
it will be back next year at least
You mean we are only Cristian at Cristmess, I think you forget something.
CristMESS, I think you're onto something...
great architect = agnostic/without religion
Maybe you are right in terms of church architecture, as a master builder there offcaurse will newer build without understandint the particular religion, and so serve better than an architect with same religion who will not bring in the same as a builder who need to investigate into the religion.
I think this thread is making baby Jesus cry.
And why is that ?
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