I'm working on a residential project. I'm searching for a window with a very slim frame - so I can get as much glass as possible. The owners would be OK w/a commercial storefront window, but something with a wood frame (at least interior) would be more appropriate for this home. I'd like to get some operable panels in it too, so probably stacking a couple of units, but still want a slim frame.
Other than Pella, Anderson, Jeldwen, etc - who do you use for higher end projects - or what has a really slim frame profile?
Sure, steel looks great - nothing has a thinner profile... Or a higher price. As in crazy high. What is your window budget? Steel will help you destroy it. I love steel, but you'll need to have a uniquely spendy client. Do you? Plus, if as you say, wood is more appropriate, then steel isn't a great suggestion.
When you say "other than Pella", etc., have you (or anyone else) used the Pella Commercial line? Looks narrow-ish, and it looks like glass walls with awning vents along the bottom is possible.
From the bit of research I did last night - I won't be able to hit my energy req'mts w/steel or aluminum - unless using a commercial thermally broken profile - or unless something else comes up.
I'll look at pella commercial.
Something w/a nail fin, that a typical residential contractor can install,w ould be awesome...
I'm not a fan of Pella, lots of problems, especially on larger operable units. Marvin's are very solid. Arcadia makes nice aluminum doors but they are pricey and the thermal performance is poor, I just had interior ice condensation on the frames in the last cold snap.
For fixed units you can build a custom wood frame system. But here it is near impossible because of hurricane codes.
Miles, does Marvin make something similar to the Pella Commercial line?
Gruen -- not sure now -- is this more "window wall" or individual units?
The commercial storefront on residential brings along some issues, the largest being warranty issues. Kawneer will not warranty their system if used in residential apps. Security is pretty non-existent, too. Something factory glazed is better.
The Fleetwood that Urbanity mentioned looks interesting
i'll +1 the milgards and loewen. they've done fine for us. my experience with pella/marvin is a bit the opposite of miles, but i'm in a different climate with different issues.
best wood windows i've ever used were duratherm - they're not cheap. more than commercial storefront in the end. but oh my...
We are still in the approval phase of this project and stalled out even more because of the snowstorm canceling public meetings. I'll need to actually answer this question soon and pick the right windows. Strux has already informed me we'll need to do a steel portal around the windows because of no panel bracing. We might end up with a storefront system, if we can shoehorn it through energy approval.
M_Sora makes high performance windows with low profile frames. They even have a line where the glass entirely overlaps the sash frame, like in most cars: http://www.m-sora.si/en/windows/details/vizija-xl. (You can hide the unit frame with trim or siding.)
windows w/slim frame profile / lots of glass?
I'm working on a residential project. I'm searching for a window with a very slim frame - so I can get as much glass as possible. The owners would be OK w/a commercial storefront window, but something with a wood frame (at least interior) would be more appropriate for this home. I'd like to get some operable panels in it too, so probably stacking a couple of units, but still want a slim frame.
Other than Pella, Anderson, Jeldwen, etc - who do you use for higher end projects - or what has a really slim frame profile?
steel windows
Yes, steel.
Sure, steel looks great - nothing has a thinner profile... Or a higher price. As in crazy high. What is your window budget? Steel will help you destroy it. I love steel, but you'll need to have a uniquely spendy client. Do you? Plus, if as you say, wood is more appropriate, then steel isn't a great suggestion.
When you say "other than Pella", etc., have you (or anyone else) used the Pella Commercial line? Looks narrow-ish, and it looks like glass walls with awning vents along the bottom is possible.
From the bit of research I did last night - I won't be able to hit my energy req'mts w/steel or aluminum - unless using a commercial thermally broken profile - or unless something else comes up.
I'll look at pella commercial.
Something w/a nail fin, that a typical residential contractor can install,w ould be awesome...
I'm not a fan of Pella, lots of problems, especially on larger operable units. Marvin's are very solid. Arcadia makes nice aluminum doors but they are pricey and the thermal performance is poor, I just had interior ice condensation on the frames in the last cold snap.
For fixed units you can build a custom wood frame system. But here it is near impossible because of hurricane codes.
I usually use Fleetwood for custom residential projects. I am not sure if they offer the wood-clad option on the interior. fleetwoodusa.net/
Milgard makes a fiberglass product that has a wood-clad option for the interior. www.milgard.com
Miles, does Marvin make something similar to the Pella Commercial line?
Gruen -- not sure now -- is this more "window wall" or individual units?
The commercial storefront on residential brings along some issues, the largest being warranty issues. Kawneer will not warranty their system if used in residential apps. Security is pretty non-existent, too. Something factory glazed is better.
The Fleetwood that Urbanity mentioned looks interesting
http://www.fleetwoodusa.net/menu_bar/Products/3800-T/window-wall-kona-3800.php
I'm interested in this topic as well...............bump!
nice custom wood windows with the ability to handle custom sizes well
quantum - http://www.quantumwindows.com/
loewen - http://www.loewen.com/
http://www.quantumwindows.com/contemporary-projects.aspx?c=460
proto, these look friggin nice. Have you used them? Any cost info?
pricey, but worth it for the right project
Milgard makes a thermally broken aluminum window that's pretty good. You can gang them together for a minimal, modern look.
http://www.milgard.com/catalog/windows/series/thermally-improved-aluminum/
Are you familiar with Kolbe windows? They have a new line called Vistalux. I think they are close to what you are looking for.
re: Vistalux see
i'll +1 the milgards and loewen. they've done fine for us. my experience with pella/marvin is a bit the opposite of miles, but i'm in a different climate with different issues.
best wood windows i've ever used were duratherm - they're not cheap. more than commercial storefront in the end. but oh my...
Gruen -- ever find a suitable window? Thin profile, gang-able / stackable, not overly high price?
What about ReHau
We are still in the approval phase of this project and stalled out even more because of the snowstorm canceling public meetings. I'll need to actually answer this question soon and pick the right windows. Strux has already informed me we'll need to do a steel portal around the windows because of no panel bracing. We might end up with a storefront system, if we can shoehorn it through energy approval.
if any contacts please get in touch with us.We are looking for slim windows systems and 7meters height windows systems.
M_Sora makes high performance windows with low profile frames. They even have a line where the glass entirely overlaps the sash frame, like in most cars: http://www.m-sora.si/en/windows/details/vizija-xl. (You can hide the unit frame with trim or siding.)
Portella does steel windows with slim frames. Have you heard about them?
You can go with still and have a frame of 1" ANGLE IRON PROFILE WITH STEEL
FLEETWOOD HAS A THIN ALUM PROFILE. BUT NOT SURE IF ITS WITH A NAIL FIN.
http://www1.fleetwoodusa.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnbmaBhD-ARIsAGTPcfVV_JGqqs7DbaEwghBDbAdvzLCyhpNCYaO9YzRAlbFSmqZDZ4c2bK4aAuZpEALw_wcB
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