Some call them the quite giants. If it's a colossal construction, then Skidmore, Owings & Merrill probably designed it. An in-depth article into the firm aka "major fee generators of American architecture. independent
No good design? Really? LOL. You've got insecurity and issues with being unimportant in architecture, don't you?
You don't strike me as a particularly astute student of architecture, but certainly a lazy one, who decides to dismiss 80 years of work to boost your own insecure ego.
student? who said I'm a student? what if I told you I used to work there? well, I did. for a long time. and I repeat: most of the company's work is no good! out of 100 projects, one is... kinda good. but it is just my opinion, you're free to disagree.
architecture is a discipline. we should all, always, be students of architecture just as we should always be students of history. the master of a discipline is still a student.
You don't see the irony/problem in the fact that you worked there "for a long time" and somehow righteously claim their work is not good....if your biography is correct, it's your work too. You can't work there "for a long time" and somehow pretend that the work you so quickly dismiss isn't partly your responsibility.
well, I meant I am not ENROLLED at any school, as bigbear implied in his first post - I am an architect. obviously we are all "students" until the day we die. and well, there's no real irony in anything I said. it was my first job out of school, and there's not much you can do about how the design turns out when there are just too many forces above you that influence the design decisions and turn a lot of buildings made by them look so bad. if you haven't worked in big firms and don't know how the money machines firms work, please don't be naive about it here...
I agree orhan, they had good projects in the past. the Yale library is amazing. problem is burnshaft era was from the 50s to 70s. since then... what has become of SOM? there's no one in charge there who really cares about design. it's all about the $$$.
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love and som don't go very well together... it's all about the money, baby! no passion, no good design... $$$ !
No good design? Really? LOL. You've got insecurity and issues with being unimportant in architecture, don't you?
You don't strike me as a particularly astute student of architecture, but certainly a lazy one, who decides to dismiss 80 years of work to boost your own insecure ego.
student? who said I'm a student? what if I told you I used to work there? well, I did. for a long time. and I repeat: most of the company's work is no good! out of 100 projects, one is... kinda good. but it is just my opinion, you're free to disagree.
'who said I'm a student?'
architecture is a discipline. we should all, always, be students of architecture just as we should always be students of history. the master of a discipline is still a student.
@cadmonkey...
You don't see the irony/problem in the fact that you worked there "for a long time" and somehow righteously claim their work is not good....if your biography is correct, it's your work too. You can't work there "for a long time" and somehow pretend that the work you so quickly dismiss isn't partly your responsibility.
well, I meant I am not ENROLLED at any school, as bigbear implied in his first post - I am an architect. obviously we are all "students" until the day we die. and well, there's no real irony in anything I said. it was my first job out of school, and there's not much you can do about how the design turns out when there are just too many forces above you that influence the design decisions and turn a lot of buildings made by them look so bad. if you haven't worked in big firms and don't know how the money machines firms work, please don't be naive about it here...
i'm with acad.
'nuff said.
i like many of som projects specially the ones by gordon buhnshaft;
lever house
beinecke rare book library
istanbul hilton
there is a lso a grat interview with detlef mertens and natalie de blois here
I agree orhan, they had good projects in the past. the Yale library is amazing. problem is burnshaft era was from the 50s to 70s. since then... what has become of SOM? there's no one in charge there who really cares about design. it's all about the $$$.
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