Orhan,
I like the idea of the ordinary becoming the extra-ordinary, due to the extraordinary becoming obsolete. Who needs
I would like to post the manifesto on my blog if you don't mind.
evilp, before getting too upset about derogatory meanings of "dumb", think about its meaning in this quote: What is dumb about the box? Well, it’s actually we, when confronting it, that are able to be dumb. We know what it is.
Quiet. Quiet as an opposite to loud.
Since manifestos are the topic, I'd like to remind everyone of Steven Ward's wonderful submittal, which I think resonates (quietly) with Lebbeus':
Toward a quiet architecture.
Modern architecture has often privileged the programmatic object-figure over considerations for continuity of the environment-field. The field remains unconsidered, underdeveloped, or ancillary to the disengaged and attention-grabbing object-figure.
In contrast, pre-modern urban forms evolved with a normative environment-field as the primary condition of urban engagement and cohesiveness which, once established, could then accommodate complementary incidental figures.
Architects' desire for recognition has prompted us to take every opportunity to draw attention to our projects, thereby continually adding to the visual clamor and chaos that defines the contemporary cityscape.
I'm confused... I couldn't see anything on the link but LW's Essay and a comment by OA in the comments section. Where is the publication of oa's essay?
well, he could choose not to publish it, because it is generally pretty unrelated to his post.;.)
he moderates the post submissions.
why, what's so holly about lebbeus woods? or anybody else for that matter...
i submitted my original manifesto, he read it and thought it was okay to publish it and i made a news item about it so more people could read it and read his article too, which i like. what is disingenuous with that?
and, it was a good occasion to draw attention to his blog as well. i really appreciate his writing and taking his time to engage with public. a lot of his peers would be horrified to do that, mostly out of insecurity of their bs.
50/50 olden, 50/50.
anyway, obviously i was bit of a self promoting too, i should admit. but the manifesto is good and i still like it. there is also a sense of humor involved. i guess i have to accept, you see it as disingenuous and not get defensive about it.
i see it more like pop and certainly add on to my infamous appearance...
now, do you have an 'automatic cheese slicer'?.;.)
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Orhan,
I like the idea of the ordinary becoming the extra-ordinary, due to the extraordinary becoming obsolete. Who needs
I would like to post the manifesto on my blog if you don't mind.
why, i like the idea of Zombitecture!
nam, you do whatever you want.
No one whos ever built a box, even a tool box, would ever think that a box is dumb. Doesnt Lebbeus Woods have a job to do somewhere?
Orhan - be forewarned my evilPlatitudes manifesto will be out soon ready to burn the archinectors' collective eyeballs out and tear out their souls
evil, platitude or not, you know i'll be waiting.
evilp, before getting too upset about derogatory meanings of "dumb", think about its meaning in this quote: What is dumb about the box? Well, it’s actually we, when confronting it, that are able to be dumb. We know what it is.
Quiet. Quiet as an opposite to loud.
Since manifestos are the topic, I'd like to remind everyone of Steven Ward's wonderful submittal, which I think resonates (quietly) with Lebbeus':
Toward a quiet architecture.
Modern architecture has often privileged the programmatic object-figure over considerations for continuity of the environment-field. The field remains unconsidered, underdeveloped, or ancillary to the disengaged and attention-grabbing object-figure.
In contrast, pre-modern urban forms evolved with a normative environment-field as the primary condition of urban engagement and cohesiveness which, once established, could then accommodate complementary incidental figures.
Architects' desire for recognition has prompted us to take every opportunity to draw attention to our projects, thereby continually adding to the visual clamor and chaos that defines the contemporary cityscape.
Why can't we just be quiet for a change?
And BTW Orhan, I love the cannibalist manifesto.
we can survive without automatic cheese slicer…
Brian just brought a second set of tongs into our kitchen. One set of tongs is more than enough.
quoted next to leb woods. what an honor! thanks, lb!
what the hell happened to the exploded everything everywhere experiment?
i enjoyed reading steve's quiet manifesto...
I'm confused... I couldn't see anything on the link but LW's Essay and a comment by OA in the comments section. Where is the publication of oa's essay?
The comment IS the "publication"
haha, really? That seems a little disingenuous of oa to say the least.
well, he could choose not to publish it, because it is generally pretty unrelated to his post.;.)
he moderates the post submissions.
why, what's so holly about lebbeus woods? or anybody else for that matter...
i submitted my original manifesto, he read it and thought it was okay to publish it and i made a news item about it so more people could read it and read his article too, which i like. what is disingenuous with that?
and, it was a good occasion to draw attention to his blog as well. i really appreciate his writing and taking his time to engage with public. a lot of his peers would be horrified to do that, mostly out of insecurity of their bs.
I don't see how you can disagree with my comments, seeing as it was you who 'published' them.
50/50 olden, 50/50.
anyway, obviously i was bit of a self promoting too, i should admit. but the manifesto is good and i still like it. there is also a sense of humor involved. i guess i have to accept, you see it as disingenuous and not get defensive about it.
i see it more like pop and certainly add on to my infamous appearance...
now, do you have an 'automatic cheese slicer'?.;.)
reminds me of something Yung Ho said at a lecture here, regarding architecture that he finds interesting (paraphrased):
"I find most architecture today very boring, or, not nearly boring enough."
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