Images of the Siza / Souto Moura's Serpentine Pavilion are out. And dont forget, as in previous years, the Pavilion will be offered for sale so start saving those pennies. | serpentine (via) | prev
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please please please.....is this what happens when a one time brilliant engineer with a so-called 'advanced geometry unit' doing some top secret work for W over extends himself by taking on a professorship at penn and coo of the most important engineering practice? i will take 'Hi' anyday......
And yes some will call the primitive first 3dh structures ugly but, I am not an architect I urge you to make it better prove that there are a call for a new method so different still so promising.
I would simply love when someone add that spark show that ability to just use this as a tool, and produce a real wonder -- and yes this will put me in the right spot as just the one who in bad english tried to make you all see, see the bright new options see how different this is , just a new tool such need to be invented by someone , hope it will yield loads of beautifull houses that's all I wanted , beside offcaurse just a bit credit.
"If I had been a fly on the wall" I would have known ,I would have seen .
Isn't this how we all feel how we know the trouble artists allway's had, then what when this thing happen right infront your eyes,
Now artists are many different sorts, even who said that you are only an artist if you clean your brushes in water as you can't pay terpentine , who say that artists are restricted to either do this or do that and do it in this or that particular way, --- when do you open your mind and realise that an artist today maby be the poor guy who suffer what it allway's costed to be that artist that make that new step, who carry the vision and do the hard labor make the sacrifise , that even a fly on the wall would reconise.
Please ------ is this realy fair is it allright to throw away my rights and say "no one invented this" , who realy profit from this attitude, you don't I don't it only prove that the role of the real artists are as hush as ever. That even you prove your work , publish it as public domain then as an old habit "we" don't reconise that rude guy who use rude words just to protect his silli invention.
Would you realy be that fly on the wall ?
True with this you can build ugly you can build useless ,cramped with no feel at all, but you can also build beautifull make digital in a more true way, without realy being a computer expert or can you ?
Apr 19, 05 2:30 pm ·
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The rules of design, construction time, demountablility and reconstructability of the Serpentine Pavilion make this an incredibly difficult project. Ted - If you want to discuss the structure then discuss the structure as this project is intended- it is intended to look at possibilities in construction, material and experience. Teaching only enhances vocabulary of the architects and engineers involved in these projects - it does not take away from their work. These are temporary experimental structures and once again I congratulate them on making something that is worthy of intelligent discussion.
Now with that wooden beam project where are the digital issues of it the "experimental edge that profit architecture with new tools with a new aproach, --- being so experimental where are nice side effects will laminated timbers realy show these ? just emagine the frames made as timbers compared digitaly cut steel frames, ---- realy where are the clue ; 3D-H beat this with a mile.
Then you say is is incredibly difficult project. and an experiment , --- now are "incredibly difficult project." what we need what they need in the arears where the houses must be rebuild ? will this build the cheap strong houses called for, wouldn't a brand new aproach , one that uses the digital options to make the pavilion be a bit more relevant in terms of architectural progress, than tradisional laminated timber frameed structure ???
Check the link,here are a method that acturly allow a bit creativity -ask no fiddeling.
Let me put it this way, I can in a day project that pavilion in 3D-Honeycomb --- ,project each frame full-size calculate how many meter need to be cut, the intire weight and knowing cost of materials in Kilo I can tell you the bill , what "experimental" are there about this -- that you have to fight laminated frames and timbers expanding when the same shapes can be cut down millimeter fit, using actural for architecture relevant modern production equipment, do it promise cheap new houses plenty of jobs and a compleat new aproach for architecture ? ,don't you think this is rather a high-tech lookalike that fail becaurse of no feel about the future digital tools, is the new architecture there ? Is this realy pointing to the future or is it pointing to something quite else a few facts about today's.
Go check this site again ;
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please please please.....is this what happens when a one time brilliant engineer with a so-called 'advanced geometry unit' doing some top secret work for W over extends himself by taking on a professorship at penn and coo of the most important engineering practice? i will take 'Hi' anyday......
its so non-linear!
Holy shit. It must be some sort of joke.
oh my!
it is ugly!
oh yes!
really!
for you, fancy modernism lovers!
Per Corell?
damn you, ROMANS!
siza must have paired up with per. awful, really awful.
but maybe it will look better in reality.
Hi
Now please make it better ;))
And yes some will call the primitive first 3dh structures ugly but, I am not an architect I urge you to make it better prove that there are a call for a new method so different still so promising.
I would simply love when someone add that spark show that ability to just use this as a tool, and produce a real wonder -- and yes this will put me in the right spot as just the one who in bad english tried to make you all see, see the bright new options see how different this is , just a new tool such need to be invented by someone , hope it will yield loads of beautifull houses that's all I wanted , beside offcaurse just a bit credit.
Hi
"If I had been a fly on the wall" I would have known ,I would have seen .
Isn't this how we all feel how we know the trouble artists allway's had, then what when this thing happen right infront your eyes,
Now artists are many different sorts, even who said that you are only an artist if you clean your brushes in water as you can't pay terpentine , who say that artists are restricted to either do this or do that and do it in this or that particular way, --- when do you open your mind and realise that an artist today maby be the poor guy who suffer what it allway's costed to be that artist that make that new step, who carry the vision and do the hard labor make the sacrifise , that even a fly on the wall would reconise.
Please ------ is this realy fair is it allright to throw away my rights and say "no one invented this" , who realy profit from this attitude, you don't I don't it only prove that the role of the real artists are as hush as ever. That even you prove your work , publish it as public domain then as an old habit "we" don't reconise that rude guy who use rude words just to protect his silli invention.
Would you realy be that fly on the wall ?
hhahaha
what a fucking joke
call me an idiot, but i have not liked siza's work a lot anyways
lets not forget what an ugly piece of crap the MVRDV thing was too
Hi
True with this you can build ugly you can build useless ,cramped with no feel at all, but you can also build beautifull make digital in a more true way, without realy being a computer expert or can you ?
The rules of design, construction time, demountablility and reconstructability of the Serpentine Pavilion make this an incredibly difficult project. Ted - If you want to discuss the structure then discuss the structure as this project is intended- it is intended to look at possibilities in construction, material and experience. Teaching only enhances vocabulary of the architects and engineers involved in these projects - it does not take away from their work. These are temporary experimental structures and once again I congratulate them on making something that is worthy of intelligent discussion.
riLMArie before you expand the description to far. let me ask you if you ever seen what 3D-H can produce ,please check;
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/
Now with that wooden beam project where are the digital issues of it the "experimental edge that profit architecture with new tools with a new aproach, --- being so experimental where are nice side effects will laminated timbers realy show these ? just emagine the frames made as timbers compared digitaly cut steel frames, ---- realy where are the clue ; 3D-H beat this with a mile.
Then you say is is incredibly difficult project. and an experiment , --- now are "incredibly difficult project." what we need what they need in the arears where the houses must be rebuild ? will this build the cheap strong houses called for, wouldn't a brand new aproach , one that uses the digital options to make the pavilion be a bit more relevant in terms of architectural progress, than tradisional laminated timber frameed structure ???
Check the link,here are a method that acturly allow a bit creativity -ask no fiddeling.
Let me put it this way, I can in a day project that pavilion in 3D-Honeycomb --- ,project each frame full-size calculate how many meter need to be cut, the intire weight and knowing cost of materials in Kilo I can tell you the bill , what "experimental" are there about this -- that you have to fight laminated frames and timbers expanding when the same shapes can be cut down millimeter fit, using actural for architecture relevant modern production equipment, do it promise cheap new houses plenty of jobs and a compleat new aproach for architecture ? ,don't you think this is rather a high-tech lookalike that fail becaurse of no feel about the future digital tools, is the new architecture there ? Is this realy pointing to the future or is it pointing to something quite else a few facts about today's.
Go check this site again ;
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/
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