So why is it that, as the United States has engaged in a contentious process of dismantling monuments to its Confederate past, and France has rid itself of all streets named after the Nazi collaborationist leader Marshall Pétain, Italy has allowed its Fascist monuments to survive unquestioned? — The New Yorker
Many monuments and buildings constructed in the late nineteen-thirties, as Benito Mussolini was preparing to host the 1942 World's fair, are still standing in Rome.
"In Germany, a law enacted in 1949 against Nazi apologism, which banned Hitler salutes and other public rituals, facilitated the suppression of Third Reich symbols. Italy underwent no comparable program of reëducation."
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rome is not italy, that should be the first lesson for the new yorker
Bingo. But that would mean NYC "intellectuals" acknowledging that they're not The Ultimate Arbiters Of Everything whom they presume themselves to be.
I know... awkward, right?
a malaise not privy to NY for sure - I have lived in Bologna and Madrid, they chose the wrong country to make the case for fascist monuments.
AND, this is a big and, italians don't give a fuck or try to use the monuments as a fascist symbol - unlike the monuments in the american south that are so cherished by the losers.
Great architecture transcends politics, mediocre crap statues and street names don't (which is why southern plantations survive but Rob E Lee statues are taken down)
Pass this on to whoever wrote that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Because they're used to live among monuments of fallen empires.
What does the Palazzo della Civilta Italiana have to do with Fascism? Being build during Mussolini times, doesn't mean that it is a Fascist symbol.
And that's why so many Fascist monuments are still standing
randomised, sorry but this is not at all a satisfactory reply! Once moreThe fact that this particular building was raised during Mussolini times, does not qualify it as Fascist monument.
The name alone Palazzo della Civilita Italiana screams fascism to me...this nationalistic glorification of Italian civilisation or something.
Talk about monuments to fascism
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/920354857214545920/
:"Un popolo di poeti, di artisti, di eroi, di santi, di pensatori, di scienziati, di navigatori, di trasmigratori" English translation: a nation of poets, of artists, of heroes, of saints, of thinkers, of scientists, of navigators, of migrants.
Something untrue in it, randomised?
Something doesn't have to be untrue to be used as Fascist propaganda.
The House Chamber, also known as the "Hall of the House of Representatives," is a large assembly room located in the center of the U.S. Capitol's south wing. Members of the House of Representatives sit in unassigned armchairs arranged in a semicircle on tiered platforms that face the Speaker's rostrum. Behind the rostrum is a frontispiece with Ionic columns made of black Italian marble with white Alabama marble capitals. An American flag occupies the center and is flanked by two bronze fasces. The chamber's lower walls are walnut paneled with intervening light grey Genevieve Sheldorado marble pilasters. A gallery for visitors and the press corps rings the chamber on the upper level.
randomised, how about these two fasces??? I say let's tear down the House Chamber ! the fasces are the symbol of Fascism!!!!
I'm personally against tearing down symbols of Fascism, the Palazzo is gorgeous.
The Egyptian Pharaohs were pretty rotten people, and slave owners on a scale that makes the plantation owners of the American South look like amateurs. Demolish the pyramids?
I really admire a lot of the Italian architecture of the 20's and 30's.
In Europe we compromise with our past. If our past is not there to remind our good things and wrongdoings, then we are some kind of primitives who eventually will reinvent the wheel! If we don't know our history we are convicted to repeat it.
Rome will always be the eternal capital, and whoever has visited Rome knows that. New York is the eternal station city of slaves, both by its historical context and by modern terms of slavery.
New Yorkers are so self-absorbed and i think this statement about Italy captures accurately NY people's ignorance. Sad that NY because of its competitive advantage and marketed as a multi-cultural city, cannot escape their entire slave of mind.
Ave Rome
You know that The New Yorker is a magazine, right?
I lived in NY for a while. I know too, Trump is from NY and in the US recently there is a Nazi movement upraise...
Haha, they must have been inspired by the Romans who elected a Neo-Fascist as their mayor from 2008-2013...are you from Rome?
Rome was built by slaves ...
All roads lead to Rome
Because its impossible, there are too many buildings and structures of vital importance.
You realize that Italy would have to destroy public squares, hospitals, districts, the bridge that connects Venice to the main land, the tribunal of Milan, entire TOWNS like Latina, Pomezia, Aprilia, Sabaudia etc. just to name a few, and much much more
Its not like France or the US, Italy during the 20 years of fascism built more than any other country even wanted to build.
Destroying everything would mean putting Italy back in the 1800s...
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