I am a sophmore at UCLA and a couple weeks ago I went to Santa Barbara for a friends graduation and got wasted. Subsequently, I was arrested for being drunk in public. If I'm proven guilty, which I dont know how I wouldnt be (I was fucked up), what is my worst case scenario for grad school?
A misdemeanor will be on my record until my death! But I may be able to do caltrans clean up or something. Anyway, assuming I have this put on my record, Ive heard that grad schools ask if applicants have been guilty of misdemeanors or felonies...
I am looking into M.Arch programs (ivies, sci-arc, UCs, CCA?).
Did anyone remember this being a point of question on grad school apps or their employers?
I am figuring I need to have a really kick ass portfolio to keep myself at any competitive level.
Well, I don't know what schools ask on their applications, but I want to think they would only look at serious felonies.
Ok, so you got drunk in college. So have hundreds of thousands of other college students, except for whatever reason you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Now, if you had crashed your car driving home, assaulted somebody, or damaged someones property or something, then you could have a problem.
Otherwise I wouldn't even worry about it. How many members of Congress and Presidents of the United States have been big alcoholics, snorted cocaine, smoked weed, slept with prostitutes, etc, and still got into Yale and Harvard.
I think some places ask if you have been CONVICTED, which is different. from someone asking if you have been arrested.
So far you have only been ARRESTED, no trail yet. Most likely if its your first arrest as an adult they will give you the option to go to some class or community service. What this does is drop the charges, and you will then have no conviction.
But the fact that you got arrested will still be on your record. You canthen have that expunged from your record, which means that only a judge can see the blemish on your record.
As mentioned before as long as its not a felony you should be fine
Maybe if you don't plead guilty you can do a plea bargain and reduce your charges to a lesser crime.You should always contest your ticket/charges.A misdemeanor is a serious thing but I don't think it will affect your future employment/school prospects because they don't require you to cite your misdemeanors.Just don't plead guilty.
it could totally stick with you in a bad way beyond grad school admissions. like if you ever were put on a federal project that would require, ahem, a background check. a similar situation led to my friend getting laid off recently for similar college age antics that happened 10 or so years ago
Seriously though, has it become so bad in architecture that people here are actually advising this person to get a lawyer and go to trial?
Chances are, some of your employers have been convicted of a midemeanor at some point in their lives. Misdemeanors are not serious offenses-think speeding and busted keggers in the woods.
I cannot recollect any school applications on which I was asked whether or not I had committed a crime.. job applications yes, but not applications. and only felony convictions (or arrests for felonies on the job apps).
This being said, there are some pretty serious misdemeanors that can result in jail terms. I suspect, though, that being drunk in public is not one of those.
As for Santa Barbara, a good policy is to avoid it ;)
I have been in your shoes 20 years ago when celebrating graduating with my MArch. I was stupid enough to do shots and ended up with a DUI. It has not had an impact on my career at all.
One of my Partners was arrested too.
I also have a friend who was arrested, convicted and served jail time for smuggling marijuana into Florida from Jamaica. He has his own firm but he could not get registered as an Architect because he was convicted of a felony. He has someone else stamp the drawings.
Many schools will ask, but it won't make much of a difference because it's not a felony. The only scenario that I could foresee any blemish on your record affecting you would be if you apply for a job with the Army Corps of Eng, DOD, etc.
The advice above is all well and good but this isn't really the place to seek legal advice. Lawyer up and see what your options are if you are still concerned about any unforeseen consequences.
i was really wasted that night.
i woke up in solitary confinement naked. my ass didnt hurt, so i dont think i was raped. idk what my bac was. weird night.
i have a really weird story now.
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I am a sophmore at UCLA and a couple weeks ago I went to Santa Barbara for a friends graduation and got wasted. Subsequently, I was arrested for being drunk in public. If I'm proven guilty, which I dont know how I wouldnt be (I was fucked up), what is my worst case scenario for grad school?
A misdemeanor will be on my record until my death! But I may be able to do caltrans clean up or something. Anyway, assuming I have this put on my record, Ive heard that grad schools ask if applicants have been guilty of misdemeanors or felonies...
I am looking into M.Arch programs (ivies, sci-arc, UCs, CCA?).
Did anyone remember this being a point of question on grad school apps or their employers?
I am figuring I need to have a really kick ass portfolio to keep myself at any competitive level.
So, whats up?
Well, I don't know what schools ask on their applications, but I want to think they would only look at serious felonies.
Ok, so you got drunk in college. So have hundreds of thousands of other college students, except for whatever reason you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Now, if you had crashed your car driving home, assaulted somebody, or damaged someones property or something, then you could have a problem.
Otherwise I wouldn't even worry about it. How many members of Congress and Presidents of the United States have been big alcoholics, snorted cocaine, smoked weed, slept with prostitutes, etc, and still got into Yale and Harvard.
drunk in public? are you kidding me? you'll be a shoe-in.
seriously though, outside of felonies, it probably doesn't matter.
What's the deal with cops in santa barbara? always pissin on our parade.
I think some places ask if you have been CONVICTED, which is different. from someone asking if you have been arrested.
So far you have only been ARRESTED, no trail yet. Most likely if its your first arrest as an adult they will give you the option to go to some class or community service. What this does is drop the charges, and you will then have no conviction.
But the fact that you got arrested will still be on your record. You canthen have that expunged from your record, which means that only a judge can see the blemish on your record.
As mentioned before as long as its not a felony you should be fine
get a lawyer
Maybe if you don't plead guilty you can do a plea bargain and reduce your charges to a lesser crime.You should always contest your ticket/charges.A misdemeanor is a serious thing but I don't think it will affect your future employment/school prospects because they don't require you to cite your misdemeanors.Just don't plead guilty.
it could totally stick with you in a bad way beyond grad school admissions. like if you ever were put on a federal project that would require, ahem, a background check. a similar situation led to my friend getting laid off recently for similar college age antics that happened 10 or so years ago
Misdemeanors are serious offenses. You should find a good lawyer immediately.
I'm really disappointed with the first handful of responses here.
Seriously though, has it become so bad in architecture that people here are actually advising this person to get a lawyer and go to trial?
Chances are, some of your employers have been convicted of a midemeanor at some point in their lives. Misdemeanors are not serious offenses-think speeding and busted keggers in the woods.
I cannot recollect any school applications on which I was asked whether or not I had committed a crime.. job applications yes, but not applications. and only felony convictions (or arrests for felonies on the job apps).
This being said, there are some pretty serious misdemeanors that can result in jail terms. I suspect, though, that being drunk in public is not one of those.
As for Santa Barbara, a good policy is to avoid it ;)
jojeg07,
I have been in your shoes 20 years ago when celebrating graduating with my MArch. I was stupid enough to do shots and ended up with a DUI. It has not had an impact on my career at all.
One of my Partners was arrested too.
I also have a friend who was arrested, convicted and served jail time for smuggling marijuana into Florida from Jamaica. He has his own firm but he could not get registered as an Architect because he was convicted of a felony. He has someone else stamp the drawings.
get drunk...
Many schools will ask, but it won't make much of a difference because it's not a felony. The only scenario that I could foresee any blemish on your record affecting you would be if you apply for a job with the Army Corps of Eng, DOD, etc.
The advice above is all well and good but this isn't really the place to seek legal advice. Lawyer up and see what your options are if you are still concerned about any unforeseen consequences.
i'm curious how wasted you were...b.a.c.?
SeaArch
"smuggling marijuana into Florida from Jamaica?
In Singapore and Malaysia they hang you for that.
getting drunk in public is like a weekly affair at SCI-Arc.
so, i went to court and ended up having to only pay 30$ in court fees. my over-night in jail took care of everything. not bad.
the misdemeanor is expunged from my record after 7 years or after 3 years if i have a clean record and fill out some papers.
not a big deal. i was really thinking the worst was going to happen.
im going to go have a beer.
i was really wasted that night.
i woke up in solitary confinement naked. my ass didnt hurt, so i dont think i was raped. idk what my bac was. weird night.
i have a really weird story now.
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