but as a private tutor..still interviewing, socializing and sending out resumes in the architecture field. i wont give up but its very depressing! relocated to NY from FL and the prospects have improved greatly.
but as a private tutor..still interviewing, socializing and sending out resumes in the architecture field. i wont give up but its very depressing! relocated to NY from FL and the prospects have improved greatly.
i was placed on part time since mid january. barely hanging on. meanwhile, my boss and I are taking the time to shuffle and organize the office. our one and only project was postponed by the client last november. we had a couple of projects that was nearing the end of construction. one is now completed the other is almost done...
i worked one day last week and most likely one day this week. been using my savings to pay for bills...if we don't recieve anything new and my savings dwindles close to nothing then i might go ahead with plan b or c...
wakiko - good idea. I concluded long ago the profession is geared to the entrepreneur and getting your own thing going. Unfortunately I had a family to support so needed a steady pay check, but now I see even more clearly that it's much better than having your career and life totally at the whim of some mangement committee. My friends who either tried it, or who are still on their own, agree it's the happiest they have been.
marmkid, that's great. If you don't mind sharing, how large was your firm that went under, and how many people started the new office? Did your new office have some existing projects to get you going, or existing client relationships by which to get some work? How was the transition? What were some of the key staff that helped you get the new business started?
the original firm was about 200 or so, over a couple different cities
our office here has 25-30 maybe
The principals in our office all had experience running firms, so they pooled together and formed this new one. Our office was actually pretty busy and had a lot of work, so bringing our existing clients and projects gave us a decent work load to start with.
Existing client relations transitioned pretty smoothly, as we didnt let any existing work suffer or stop despite the transition. As far as i have heard, there hasnt been a client who has had much of a problem with the new firm. Nothing really is changing in terms of the teams working on their projects, so business for them was pretty much the same
Nice marmkid, congrats to your office... Thanks for the info, that's awesome that your office was able to make that transition. How did the transition work from the standpoint of administrative functions and your marketing staff? Was it mostly architects that moved to the new office, the design staff diversifying to pick up some of the office administrative functions, accounting etc. of the larger firm that went under?
bRink - your old firm had 200 people, in several cities, and it completely closed? Wow. Good that your principals took what they knew and created their own thing... principals (VP's etc.) are practically run the business anyway (bringing in clients, maintaining staff). Seems the only thing the parent firm provides are some backup staff and equipment.
I guess some 'good' things happen in the worst of times!
the idea was that there could be collaborations between the different city offices
basically when you bid a project, you have a team of 200, and the associated experiences and expertise of all the members of the firm, rather than just the 20 or so
but given the economy and partly the business model itself, things did not work out
and lucky for me this office had several good principals who wanted to go this route rather than just go off individually and let everyone fend for themselves
i graduated last may but am doing intern work at a small engineering firm. there are no architects on staff, so i haven't earned any IDP credit. it's not ideal, but it pays the bills and is enabling me to save for grad school this fall. in the meantime, i'm preparing to apply for a bunch of summer internships... hoping the market won't this bad when i graduate again several years from now.
Unicorn - I totally hear ya... don't die - even this f#)@(ing job market isn't worth it dying over.
We're all under a lot of underlying stress - the kind that you don't even know is there, being unemployed so long you get numb to the low feelings... I'm usually pretty low key, but out of nowhere I'll blow up over the simplest thing...
Are You Employed?
yes (* not so much of late.)
Yes
but as a private tutor..still interviewing, socializing and sending out resumes in the architecture field. i wont give up but its very depressing! relocated to NY from FL and the prospects have improved greatly.
Yes
but as a private tutor..still interviewing, socializing and sending out resumes in the architecture field. i wont give up but its very depressing! relocated to NY from FL and the prospects have improved greatly.
NO
NO
No
yes.
i was placed on part time since mid january. barely hanging on. meanwhile, my boss and I are taking the time to shuffle and organize the office. our one and only project was postponed by the client last november. we had a couple of projects that was nearing the end of construction. one is now completed the other is almost done...
i worked one day last week and most likely one day this week. been using my savings to pay for bills...if we don't recieve anything new and my savings dwindles close to nothing then i might go ahead with plan b or c...
Strlt - apply for unemployement - if you're working that few days a week, you should qualify for some UI.....
NOPE BUT IM TRYING TO START MY OWN THING
wakiko - good idea. I concluded long ago the profession is geared to the entrepreneur and getting your own thing going. Unfortunately I had a family to support so needed a steady pay check, but now I see even more clearly that it's much better than having your career and life totally at the whim of some mangement committee. My friends who either tried it, or who are still on their own, agree it's the happiest they have been.
yes
yes
no
no...not as in an employee
yes...as in scraping up any work i can from construction to building.. you need a dog house??????
No
yes-ish - officially laid off but working half time as sub-contractor (no benefits)
yes
.....and working in architecture
the firm i was at previously went under, and our office started our own firm, so there was a month or so of transition time
marmkid, that's great. If you don't mind sharing, how large was your firm that went under, and how many people started the new office? Did your new office have some existing projects to get you going, or existing client relationships by which to get some work? How was the transition? What were some of the key staff that helped you get the new business started?
the original firm was about 200 or so, over a couple different cities
our office here has 25-30 maybe
The principals in our office all had experience running firms, so they pooled together and formed this new one. Our office was actually pretty busy and had a lot of work, so bringing our existing clients and projects gave us a decent work load to start with.
Existing client relations transitioned pretty smoothly, as we didnt let any existing work suffer or stop despite the transition. As far as i have heard, there hasnt been a client who has had much of a problem with the new firm. Nothing really is changing in terms of the teams working on their projects, so business for them was pretty much the same
no, for almost a year
Nice marmkid, congrats to your office... Thanks for the info, that's awesome that your office was able to make that transition. How did the transition work from the standpoint of administrative functions and your marketing staff? Was it mostly architects that moved to the new office, the design staff diversifying to pick up some of the office administrative functions, accounting etc. of the larger firm that went under?
thanks
I feel that i really lucked out during all of this
our one marketing person came with us
luckily she was in our office already, as not every city had a marketing staff
basically everyone already in our office stayed on with the new firm, so the transition was essentially, business as usual
but yeah, we all had to help out with some differing admin stuff while things got set up
It was actually pretty good experience
bRink - your old firm had 200 people, in several cities, and it completely closed? Wow. Good that your principals took what they knew and created their own thing... principals (VP's etc.) are practically run the business anyway (bringing in clients, maintaining staff). Seems the only thing the parent firm provides are some backup staff and equipment.
I guess some 'good' things happen in the worst of times!
Not me... marmkid's firm. Thanks for the info marmkid, best of luck to you and the new office!
that is partially correct, roobqt
the idea was that there could be collaborations between the different city offices
basically when you bid a project, you have a team of 200, and the associated experiences and expertise of all the members of the firm, rather than just the 20 or so
but given the economy and partly the business model itself, things did not work out
and lucky for me this office had several good principals who wanted to go this route rather than just go off individually and let everyone fend for themselves
thanks bRink!
so far so good!
ahhh... well, good luck with it all... sounds like a good group to be with....
no, dos it count if I don't have a degree?
yes
yes.
left a 1/2 time job for a slight reduction in pay, but really enjoying new office & plenty of work
husband no.
he is in construction (but arch grad) & just finished up a restaurant job. hasn't looked for new work yet.
r.a. i miss you here, but if you got work, all the more power to you. btw, i like the work on your site, kudos!
yes...
i graduated last may but am doing intern work at a small engineering firm. there are no architects on staff, so i haven't earned any IDP credit. it's not ideal, but it pays the bills and is enabling me to save for grad school this fall. in the meantime, i'm preparing to apply for a bunch of summer internships... hoping the market won't this bad when i graduate again several years from now.
no* :(
i was almost employed, but the job fell through because the project got canned. found it on archinect though.
no
am not really part of the whole architecture thing (planner)
really unemployable at this point, i think ive slid into full on crazytown.
functional hobo/vagrant now.
not really looking for a real job anymore. who wants to hire a vagrant? quit my bookkeeping gigs.
kind of waiting to die or thinking about going to jail.
thank goodness you can still make time to post on archinect during that busy schedule!!
that was bait to see if anyone would use an opportunity to wail on the homeless.
and they would.
you're a despicable asshole.
uh oh, someone forgot the sarcasm button!
Unicorn - I totally hear ya... don't die - even this f#)@(ing job market isn't worth it dying over.
We're all under a lot of underlying stress - the kind that you don't even know is there, being unemployed so long you get numb to the low feelings... I'm usually pretty low key, but out of nowhere I'll blow up over the simplest thing...
NO
So loremipsum, what is the final tally on this? I'm kind curious.
I might start one of these surveys addressing the "underemployed" aspect of this market.
Side Note: This thread was very interesting, and I wanted to continue a similiar one which tried to capture the part-time aspect somewhat. Please refer here and add some data:
http://www.archinect.com/forum/threads.php?id=96338_0_42_0_C
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