But I agree with holz. The news cycle on a magazine is so slow and Architecture(TM) seems to happen so quickly.
By the time Arch Record hits the newsstands, we've already read a different-but-same story in BLDGBLOG, ArchDaily or even Archinect. And then you wonderful people as well as people elsewhere on the internet have already praised it or tore it a new hole.
With as many professors and wannabees around here, the commentary is roughly the same quality you'd get from a journalist.
I'd say the problem with both is "indepthness." I'd say some discussion forms like Archinect get further indepth on isssues perceived to be "unimportant" in publishing. But even publishers can rarely afford the kind of brains (economist, evaluator, other professional) to really give someone a "complete picture."
Oddly though, some of the things I have either post on here or blogged about seem to have come full circle. And I wouldn't be surprised if flies-on-the-wall lift print off this site or others.
most magazines i could do without...but i adore architectural digest because it something that most non-architects can relate to. because of that, thankfully, i doubt that it will ever get axed.
Almost every residential project I do starts with a client walking into my office ( well actually me really sitting at their kitchen table but let me dream ) with a copy of Architectural Digest. As much as I despise it, it is the window into the client's mind, the most powerful tool we have. Think About it.
I understand that but what I hate is that it uses the guise of architectural pretension to hurdle itself higher than the typical "home-decor-and-design magazines" yet actually really has nothing of intellectual value about architecture, site planning or home types.
I think from one point it sickens me that there is more than enough new homes and new interiors to dump off 12-20 stories a month, every month. Room after room completely decked... yet some of these people are the same people turning around and saying "The minimum wage of $7.25 is too high!" and "We can't afford insurance!"
You probably could pay your employees slightly more if you weren't buying $12,000 lamps.
And lamp makers, shame on you for bloating a price that high. There is nothing special about paper wrapped around a lightbulb on a stainless steel string.
I completely agree, the people buying stupid shit like $1200 dollar purses are just as responsible. Money, is the great liquid that makes the social machine run. If you waste it, you hurt everyone. Its still the best system we got so people, use it wisely ok?
I've been hoping for this for a while. That magazine, Architectural Record, needs to shape up and make a better quality publication. Enough with the AIA free ride.
I hear what a lot of people are saying on this thread, but I'd rather Dwell or Wallpaper be a window into clients minds.
I still remember the first time I came to the US, and my uncle handed me about 25 back issues of Architectural Record, supposedly meant "for my education". I had to load all that shit into a suitcase, and then dispose of it shortly thereafter.
The surest sign to me that Architectural Disgust isn't an "architecture" magazine (despite the positive things said about it here, which probably have merit) is that it contains no plan drawings. How can one make a judgement about a work of architecture without knowing what the designer has actually done -- what the content of the building is, and how that substance is arranged ?
In a recent Arch Record, they have a story on Cooper Square. The graphic scale for the section is wrong. We have Detail at school because they are a resource that you can return to and learn something in depth. Record is more journalism and isn't very good.
I admit to being a Euro-centric American. That said, the very fine "Architectural Review," published in Great Britain, puts all other English-language architecture journals to shame -- in my opinion. I'm so glad that my local (big-city) library sees fit to subscribe. . .
the truth is skinny jean wearing pierced architecture students of the world is that most architecture firms out there that you'll be sending resumes to have architectural digest on the coffee table in the foyer and all of robert stern's books for reference. enjoy!
arch review is invaluable for its actual, informed criticism and its short little theory treatises. detail is invaluable for its, well, detail. If only I could afford either of them...
And vado, thank goodness but I can attest to the fact that many fewer firms have digest on the table than I used to see during my old job searchs in previous years. i think it is indeed, cross my fingers, going the way of the dodo. Everyone still has stern's books on the shelf, though... especially in Chicago, this town seems to be taking forever to move on to new thinking in design...
kinda blows..."architect" is free for those in the industry already, not to mention that the content is of even less (and smaller) quality than arch record. and at $35 a year, yeah, it is a huge part of the benefit. its funny, though, that "architecture" lost its contract to "Arch Record" in nineties.
My library was getting Casabella until recentiy. Maybe they're not putting it out -- I'll have to ask. Still have the GA pair (GA Houses, GA Document). Yum.
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goodbye Architectural Record?
AIA ends its contract with Arch Record!
AIA ends its contract with Arch Record!
damn, no more "free" copies of the mag
oops
link fail
both rags are friggin terrible...
needs to be axed.
But I agree with holz. The news cycle on a magazine is so slow and Architecture(TM) seems to happen so quickly.
By the time Arch Record hits the newsstands, we've already read a different-but-same story in BLDGBLOG, ArchDaily or even Archinect. And then you wonderful people as well as people elsewhere on the internet have already praised it or tore it a new hole.
With as many professors and wannabees around here, the commentary is roughly the same quality you'd get from a journalist.
I'd say the problem with both is "indepthness." I'd say some discussion forms like Archinect get further indepth on isssues perceived to be "unimportant" in publishing. But even publishers can rarely afford the kind of brains (economist, evaluator, other professional) to really give someone a "complete picture."
Oddly though, some of the things I have either post on here or blogged about seem to have come full circle. And I wouldn't be surprised if flies-on-the-wall lift print off this site or others.
most magazines i could do without...but i adore architectural digest because it something that most non-architects can relate to. because of that, thankfully, i doubt that it will ever get axed.
Almost every residential project I do starts with a client walking into my office ( well actually me really sitting at their kitchen table but let me dream ) with a copy of Architectural Digest. As much as I despise it, it is the window into the client's mind, the most powerful tool we have. Think About it.
I understand that but what I hate is that it uses the guise of architectural pretension to hurdle itself higher than the typical "home-decor-and-design magazines" yet actually really has nothing of intellectual value about architecture, site planning or home types.
I think from one point it sickens me that there is more than enough new homes and new interiors to dump off 12-20 stories a month, every month. Room after room completely decked... yet some of these people are the same people turning around and saying "The minimum wage of $7.25 is too high!" and "We can't afford insurance!"
You probably could pay your employees slightly more if you weren't buying $12,000 lamps.
And lamp makers, shame on you for bloating a price that high. There is nothing special about paper wrapped around a lightbulb on a stainless steel string.
Back on topic.
I completely agree, the people buying stupid shit like $1200 dollar purses are just as responsible. Money, is the great liquid that makes the social machine run. If you waste it, you hurt everyone. Its still the best system we got so people, use it wisely ok?
Finally!
I've been hoping for this for a while. That magazine, Architectural Record, needs to shape up and make a better quality publication. Enough with the AIA free ride.
but its a birkin!
fellas ... relax ... they're just magazines.
Man, thats the major benefit of my AIA membership
I hear what a lot of people are saying on this thread, but I'd rather Dwell or Wallpaper be a window into clients minds.
I still remember the first time I came to the US, and my uncle handed me about 25 back issues of Architectural Record, supposedly meant "for my education". I had to load all that shit into a suitcase, and then dispose of it shortly thereafter.
Architectural Record - please die!
(I like "hurdle" used for "hurtle")
Architectural Record is the Motor Trend of architecture magazines. . .or so I have thought for forty years.
Is there still a Motor Trend. . .?
in my mind architectural digest and architectural record no longer exist.
The surest sign to me that Architectural Disgust isn't an "architecture" magazine (despite the positive things said about it here, which probably have merit) is that it contains no plan drawings. How can one make a judgement about a work of architecture without knowing what the designer has actually done -- what the content of the building is, and how that substance is arranged ?
In a recent Arch Record, they have a story on Cooper Square. The graphic scale for the section is wrong. We have Detail at school because they are a resource that you can return to and learn something in depth. Record is more journalism and isn't very good.
We're going to drop Record.
I admit to being a Euro-centric American. That said, the very fine "Architectural Review," published in Great Britain, puts all other English-language architecture journals to shame -- in my opinion. I'm so glad that my local (big-city) library sees fit to subscribe. . .
http://www.arplus.com/
SDR,
You're right
you can read old articles from the Arch Review archives here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3575/
the truth is skinny jean wearing pierced architecture students of the world is that most architecture firms out there that you'll be sending resumes to have architectural digest on the coffee table in the foyer and all of robert stern's books for reference. enjoy!
arch review is invaluable for its actual, informed criticism and its short little theory treatises. detail is invaluable for its, well, detail. If only I could afford either of them...
And vado, thank goodness but I can attest to the fact that many fewer firms have digest on the table than I used to see during my old job searchs in previous years. i think it is indeed, cross my fingers, going the way of the dodo. Everyone still has stern's books on the shelf, though... especially in Chicago, this town seems to be taking forever to move on to new thinking in design...
Dwell and Metropolis are the shiznit!
I wish El Croquis want so damn expensive though!
Dwell has sucked for about the last five years. Metropolis started sucking about six months ago when they cut the number of pages.
kinda blows..."architect" is free for those in the industry already, not to mention that the content is of even less (and smaller) quality than arch record. and at $35 a year, yeah, it is a huge part of the benefit. its funny, though, that "architecture" lost its contract to "Arch Record" in nineties.
I want the Forum back. And PA.
My library was getting Casabella until recentiy. Maybe they're not putting it out -- I'll have to ask. Still have the GA pair (GA Houses, GA Document). Yum.
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