University of Applied Arts Vienna

recheck whether your masters degrees in uk lead to licencing in the uk, as far as i am aware, there not.

To get licensed you do 4th and 5th year in uk whether that be called Diploma, B.arch/M.arch (not the normal masters).

j'aime

you mean AA/Barlett masters? they have part 1,2,3 so here everything is ok, though with eth and tu delft it's a big question. they are very good school, but the further acreditation really bothers me because I come from ex ussr counrty so the master I have is not validated by RIBA or smth.

finB

I know it, but I want to focus on design itself, parametrics is very good, but in AAV it seems too and only parametrics.

if you're after getting licensed in the uk, probably the easiest way is to study there. if you're after the best education possible and the licensing is a secondary issue, maybe continental europe has some schools that suit you more, it all depends on what you want out of it. BD had a feature about the best recent British graduates maybe it will give some direction in your search: BD

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One of the main issues is to get an education from a recognizable international school that has the name wherether you go after, so if it's in continental europe - ok, in uk - great! I looked at BD's best student works about a week ago but actually I think it doesn't show the school much, because the final project depends much more on a person too. I saw some VERY inspiring and deep projects from the schools on ex ussr area you never heard about, but I know that they doesn't have anything to do with the school itself, but the student.

maybe that answers your questions, it's not about the school as much as it is about you yourself as a student.

yeah... but the employers want to see the top schools students :) and I've already been to "middle" class uni and want to find out smth more, even the AA Summer School has influenced me greatly, so this is the reason of why I'm asking this about schools :)

I honest to God don't think having those names on your degree/CV will change things at all.

Really, your motivation in choosing a school should be the education and not the name. Sure there's a lot to be said for going to a highly regarded school like the AA, but that's because of the high quality staff working there, the resources that the school can offer, and of course the many talented, motivated students that it attracts.


Working in such an environment, while making good connections with respected people in the industry and academia should no doubt improve your future employability... But it's really not at all about having "Awesome U" on your CV. It doesn't make a difference.

AA/Bartlett masters = No accreditation,
(they are post accreditation masters)

I heard from a friend that Bartlett Diploma is now a master which is an accredited program, but sounds as if you've already done that level. But in general all the other masters are not accredited. They have absolutely nothing to do with accreditation part 1, part 2, part 3 etc. they are not related.

"Awesome U" doesn't as much make a difference as "Awesome Education, Training, Skills, Connections, Experience etc etc etc." which is usually only got at "Awesome U". No argument needed.

j'aime

Check this link from the ARB website:
-AA School Of Architecture http://www.arb.org.uk/qualifications/schools_and_institutions_of_architecture/london/architectural_association_school_of_architecture/default.php

-Barlett http://www.arb.org.uk/qualifications/schools_and_institutions_of_architecture/london/university_college_london/default.php

By talking about awesome U I of course also mean "Awesome Education, Training, Skills, Connections, Experience etc etc etc."

Dont know where u got you info but sure the AAV is not about "parametric" stuff. In any case the AA is the home of parametrics and IaaC also. Anyway, I agree with the others, might go to an "awesome school" but if your PERSONAL portfolio is not good, is almost worthless to go spend the amount of money those schools charge. Good luck!

finB,

I've aleady said and mentioned that I understand this clearly, but still everyone repeats the same about portfolio and no word about schools...

finB

+ A freind has a freind from AAV from Zaha Studio... and believe me... it's all about parametrcis ;)

soulofautumn... I think the reason that a lot of people are repeating the same thing, is because you're offering us very little to work with, other than you want a school with a "very good international reputation".

So let me ask you, what specifically are you looking for? You mention ETH and TU Delft for example... What attracts you to these two schools? Are there particular programs, studios, seminars, or instructors that you're interested in?

What about your previous education and professional experience? Where has that led you? The better the picture you can present of yourself, your interests, and your goals, the better the community can help you.

IamGray

In a year I'll have a master degree from an ukranian uni, but I've realized that aa summer school (which I did this august) has gave me even more than my local uni for years. So this was one of the main factors that has made me look for a second master degree in uk/eu. Why uk/eu - because I don't have time to practice and pass GRE so that's why I'm not looking at harvard/columbia/mit etc this year (though maybe I'll look at them later).

It's a pity but I'm not familier with uk/eu tutors much, that's why it makes me so hard to make a choice of where to focus. I know that ETH and TU Delft have a good reputation also as AA, Barlett, though ETH is more technical one as I heard and that's why it sounds not what I actually want. The other questions that really bothers me is accreditation and further licensing, maybe I must not focus on this right now, but at first sight it was really important to me.

Returning to schools... I'm asking just to find out more choices. What about London MET/Kingston/other uk uni's? Just understand my position that I'm a new guy in all this, so I want some feedback to see things more clearly...

cool. I am in AAV I might know your friend. zaha is here but also, lynn,wolf prix ,etc. just saying,

other schools:

politecnico di milano?
RCA london?
royal academy,denmark?

if you want to license in the UK might be better and easier to attend a UK university. dont know if there are extra exams if you go from another EU university.

finB,

AAV - the one more thing that bothers me is a degree, if I remember you recieve Mag.Arch. yes? I dunno how it works with ARB...

politecnico di milano - some ppl from pdm said that studios are overcrowded so it's really not that great to study even having some good tutors. and the fees for non-eu are so high that I'd rather save them for another uni in eu.

rca london - looks good that they are not very theoretical that is a good option for me, cuz I want to focus more on practice and experimenting, though the thing I actually don't like is an MA degree.

royal academy,denmark, the same - MA degree...

Yes, you're right, that it's much easier to get uk license if you study there, though the fees in eu uni's are lower, so I need as much info as I can get to compare if it's really worthless.

What do you think about London MET/Kingston/Kent?

As far as I understand it, most EU countries in Western Europe have a reciprocal agreement with the UK. If you have qualified as an architect in one of these EU countries then it is also accepted in the UK.

One thing you need to check is whether your undergraduate degree (in architecture?) is enough to be equivalent to UK "Part 1". You may have to demonstrate to the ARB that you are at a sufficient level, before you apply for a UK "Part II" course.

What about MSc in UK?

Just wanted to say that the name of the school you went to can certainly play a huge part in setting you apart from the other applicants (assuming your portolfio looks good too) In my current firm we had 300 applications for one advertized position in less than a week... I got the interview because the hiring manager saw that I went to the AA for my master's and was interested...

that being said.. if your work isnt good.. the school you went to won't matter