just moving your guide will not move the things attached to it. You've got to grab onto the text block and move it to the new alignment.

I wondered if I would be able to explain this well enough. I guess I didn't. What is showing on the ruler is not the same space between the photo and caption. Instead of it being 1/16" it is only a hair.

your picture probably has a default run around on it. if not, strech your text box to go completely underneath the picture and then set the picture run around to either 0p9, 1p0 or 1p3 depending on the size of the text.

1/16th of an inch is far too small.

right click on top of the ruler (side or top) to confirm that your document is in fact in inches?

Don't drag the guides. Select the guideline and use the input boxes (top left) to enter the exact location of where it should be. Then snap the text box to the newly precise guide.

That's way over complicated rationalist.

A snapshot of the problem would be helpful. But one thing you could do is change the document gridline every 1 inch and subdivide into 16 divisions. Next, make sure the "Snap to Document Grid" (Under View>Grid and Guide) is check and you should be able to have everything line up.

good idea rationalist. i didn't know that was possible. never had this problem before, but if i did that is a perty good way to get accuracy (which is the goal isn't it?)

not sure what you mean by a default run around the picture, orochi. what is that?

In most applications I'm familiar with (quark, indesign, a few others), pictures have a default run around. Meaning the picture, if interacting with other elements on a layout, will automatically produce a space around the picture. The default is usually a 1p, 1pt, 3pt or 1p6 runaround.

Basically the border of the picture forces the text away. So no matter what crazy trick you try to pull-- other than bringing the text to the top-- you'll never get your spacing right or get things flush.

The reason I don't like to use exact guides in layouts is that text boxes are automatically padded with 1-3 pixels around the inside of the bounding box.

So, basically you have to line up the text box, click it and then hit the arrow keyboard button 3-7 times to get the actual edge of the text to line up with the image border. Image borders themselves are produce from the OUTSIDE of the box... so lining up a picture to a guideline means that the border extends past the guides.

Adding to many guides to a page also breaks up the natural interpretation of the page. I only use them for adding a minimum 3/4 to full page horizontal to vertical rules.

If anyone would like to challenge me on this, I will totally have a layout competition and whoop your ass.

I think the "run" has to be set in the text wrap window in indesign-- should default to none.

agreed, image wrap's default is off. It totally could be the issue, but it totally shouldn't be.