It took me about 8 years in the professional world to figure that out. I know, 8 years is a long time to figure anything out. Better late than never though.
Aristotle, I feel you've only come here to complain. It appears from your numerous posts today on this fresh account that you know very little of this profession. In the real world, most architects can design and detail, a fair number of them do so very well. You would do much better if you removed your blinders.
@non sequitur, there must be a culture difference, I'm british, we moan really well. I have 4 years professional experience, what do you know about me. I have had my fair share of clients with-holding payment, it;s a common experience.
@non sequitur : quote " Architects should always choose clients carefully and be vigilant on cash flow and debt recovery, but this is easier said than done, particularly in these stricken times. Among the practical issues to consider when pursuing unpaid fees are the implication of losing the client – maybe this is not a bad thing if they don’t pay your fees!"
You sound like the one with inadequate experience.
@non sequitur, if architects were so good at detailing ,why do contractors not think so, one of my mates is a contractor and he takes the rip out of architectural detailing all the time. Hence, Request for information.
and I don't personally deal with the business side, I just churn out the information needed. Non-payment has nothing to do with quality of output, it might be their own lack of capital or as you know if youve worked in practice that projects get abandoned all the time.
I'm not an Architect yet, but as far as clients not paying fees. You guys should really be good friends with Debt Collectors (legal preferably), they really help fix a lot of problems you have with cheap-ass clients.
@ LanceYatooma lol, yes thanks for that, reminds me of story I read about an architect who got illicit debt collecters and they poured acid on the client's car, think the architect got struck off or disciplined for professional misconduct by the professional body. I can't find the story atm.
#44 That moment when you find out the biggest slacker in your senior class (yes, the one that made most of their models out of Red Bull cans and whatever empty foil bags or candy wrappers they procured from the deepest, darkest recesses of their desk because they didn't work on their projects until an hour before they were due) somehow landed a job at one of the biggest firms in the country.
Cons of Being An Architect
Come to think of it, the entire profession of architecture is a con.
It took me about 8 years in the professional world to figure that out. I know, 8 years is a long time to figure anything out. Better late than never though.
#41. People always think that you must be really good at math.
never getting any ass because your dumbass is stuck at work (at midnite) on some stupid deadline while you should be at home cuddling up to wifey
Sometimes Clients don't pay you and you have to chase them, delaying your cash-flow.
Most architects are not very good designers, their detailing is not very good.
Aristotle, I feel you've only come here to complain. It appears from your numerous posts today on this fresh account that you know very little of this profession. In the real world, most architects can design and detail, a fair number of them do so very well. You would do much better if you removed your blinders.
@non sequitur, there must be a culture difference, I'm british, we moan really well. I have 4 years professional experience, what do you know about me. I have had my fair share of clients with-holding payment, it;s a common experience.
Here. http://www.bdonline.co.uk/my-client-isn%E2%80%99t-paying-%E2%80%94-how-can-i-recover-unpaid-fees?/5023678.article
@non sequitur : quote " Architects should always choose clients carefully and be vigilant on cash flow and debt recovery, but this is easier said than done, particularly in these stricken times.
Among the practical issues to consider when pursuing unpaid fees are the implication of losing the client – maybe this is not a bad thing if they don’t pay your fees!"
You sound like the one with inadequate experience.
@non sequitur, if architects were so good at detailing ,why do contractors not think so, one of my mates is a contractor and he takes the rip out of architectural detailing all the time. Hence, Request for information.
(I've got four years of professional experience but not at part 2.)
Sometimes Clients don't pay you
Maybe there's a reason for that.
@miles jaffe, it's not my company, i still get my salary
and I don't personally deal with the business side, I just churn out the information needed. Non-payment has nothing to do with quality of output, it might be their own lack of capital or as you know if youve worked in practice that projects get abandoned all the time.
I'm not an Architect yet, but as far as clients not paying fees. You guys should really be good friends with Debt Collectors (legal preferably), they really help fix a lot of problems you have with cheap-ass clients.
@ LanceYatooma lol, yes thanks for that, reminds me of story I read about an architect who got illicit debt collecters and they poured acid on the client's car, think the architect got struck off or disciplined for professional misconduct by the professional body. I can't find the story atm.
You can be fabulously successful without a grain of design talent.
#42 you can be fabulously talented but not find a grain of success.
People always think that you must be really good at math.
#43 you can be really good at math and it is basically useless.
#44 That moment when you find out the biggest slacker in your senior class (yes, the one that made most of their models out of Red Bull cans and whatever empty foil bags or candy wrappers they procured from the deepest, darkest recesses of their desk because they didn't work on their projects until an hour before they were due) somehow landed a job at one of the biggest firms in the country.
#45. Husbands and wives, as clients.
#45 Old Husbands Young Trophy Wives with Ivy League Degrees.
When did trophy wives get ivy league degrees?
it's getting competitive
#46: "What is antonym for architect?..."
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