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trying to figure out how to end this short essay, thanks for the abuse in the meantime.

The standard empirical representation of nature requires every effect to have a direct and obvious cause. Within the confines of the rational mind a priori all causes and effects need to be organized into categories with linear and clear determinable relationships. The rational mind has its limits and often resorts to categorizing the unclear relationships of causes and effects into the trash bin of the unknown: chaos. Complexity admits the possibility of reorganizing the trash bin of chaos, a reorganization that requires a bit more effort and a bit more meandering through the network of cause and effect.

At the beginning of the 20th century both the most certain of sciences were struggling with their interpretations of the universe. The foundations of mathematics wavered between formalism and intuitionism and physics noted that its methods of observations changed the very existence of what it observed. Thus, one could never quite be sure what state the observed had been in before one observed it and moreover one could not be sure that the tools for analysis (mathematics) were founded on anything more than paper games or gut instincts!

At the same time architecture created a simple and abstract language: Modern Architecture. In contrast modern architecture was elementary, a Newtonian version of physics. By the 60’s and 70’s this elementary language had clearly overextended itself in its ability to solve problems. Architectural theory began to borrow from systems of thought outside itself such as existential linguistic deconstructionism or biology. Theory also seemed to find what it was looking for in the architecture of vernacular Las Vegas. Discovering a grand unified language seemed futile, hence a name for the trash bin of theory and chaos of styles surfaced: Post-Modernism.

It’s not certain if we’re still in a Post-Modern era or if Post-Modernism was just a term for our anxiety due to a lack of clear elementary structure. Less was more once, but all we seem to do these days is decorate our theory with more and more thought…criminal. Frankly, who cares?!? All this theory, this overly complex thought that only black turtle-neckers or drunk alpha males pretend to understand; still does not make anyone’s personal subjective style of creating architecture anymore important or meaningful than the next person’s subjective style, or my dog’s style of architecture. The term ‘Style’ tends to offend architects and artists alike, don’t ever qualify their drivel of a justification as an explanation for their ‘style’. They say it’s not style, its desire for the iconic, the monumental, the meaningful, the radical, the other, the pure blob graffiti monkey... It’s quite possible this anxiety and absurd behavior could be medicated, but architects would prefer to keep publishing narcissistic monographs with constant reference to global capitalism as the source of their masochistic struggle at enlightening the dumb masses. Forget that an abundance of capital is the very source of any notable theoretical architecture and that those monographs are nothing more than sexy advertisements. Architects are awaiting a non-being savior, a master ideological plan if you will, while convincing themselves they are the designer of such a savior.

The cool kids buy those monographs because they appear intellectual while sprucing up their coffee tables with delectable eye candy, mmm yummy... Did you say post-hyper-parabolic-neo-deconstruction gable roof? Yes, I saw that guy in Paris doing it with a CNC milling machine while splashing coffee over his napkin tucked in between his Kafka novel. All this excitement concerning form and space: the religion of architecture. Yet, these days no one admits it, they cloak their superstitions and ego driven addictions to form and space with seemingly practical devices such as green design and rigorous methodical approaches to the chaos of practice.

Kafka books are great and form and space are the essential components of the language of architecture, so calm down, no need to get emotional, nothing here was intended to offend an architect’s ego – blob lovin’ turtle-necker.

Complexity and Emergence; not just trendy academic terms, but the very terms that best describe the practice of architecture or can we say the historical architectural era after Modern Architecture. Let’s sweep Post-Modernism under the rug and write it off as a pubescent stage in the rational scientific development of architecture; an incorrectly classified transition period of the emerging era of Complexity and Emergence. ‘Complexity and Emergence Architecture’ is too much of a mouthful to catch on, so let us employ some archispeak here. Archispeak is the intellectual architect’s style of writing and speach; words logically combined similar to German and often uber-trendy and ubermisunderstandableplex. Thus, ‘Complexence Architecture’…title of our next monograph.

Modern Architecture established an elementary language that directly linked abstract logical concepts of form and space to methods of construction that manifested themselves in a sensible experience. Without time - space and form can note be experienced. Without time – space and form can not direct and control energy and light. Without time – space and form can not create a social meaning or political force. With out time – the letters and words of a sentence can not form meaning or make sense. Architects do not control time. The configuration of space and form prescribed by an architect is a prediction presented as a solution to whatever building problem may be at hand. It is a leap of blind faith to assume a configuration of space and form can control it’s meaning to society and affect politics in a meaningful way. It is all the more blind to assume the purely ideological configuration of space and form without outside forces influencing it will be successful at solving anything.

 
Jun 11, 09 10:07 pm

Yeah, and PowerBall is now up to $59 million.


"Less walls is more windows."


Hi, I haven't had time yet to read all of your post, but I wanted to quickly respond about your being in Phila. Tuesday. You'll find that Einstein is right near Olney Avenue, and hence in just the next neighborhood to mine. I actually want to attend your talk, and then, if it is possible, I'd like to take you on a Synagogue tour here. Just 5 minutes north of Einstein is Louis I. Kahn's first executed building, which was in fact a local, neighborhood synagogue (1935), now a Black Baptist(?) Church -- well worth seeing. Then 10 minutes north of that is Beth Sholom (1955?), a Frank Lloyd Wright masterpiece.


Und was ist das Laufscape???

Sie wissen das "der Lauf der Welt" im Englisch heist "the way of the world." Ist das das Laufscape? Platzgeist UND Zeitgeist? Ist das das Laufscape? Wohnen Sie vielleicht am Lauf Herr Lauf?

Einstein und Einstein sind zwei Stein.
Zwei Stein und zwei Stein sind Neuschwanstein.
Neuschwanstein und Neuschwanstein sind Vierzehn Heiligen.

You might want to web check the ancient Roman festivals that were called Ludi. Apparently that's when the real games of Western civilization were played out big time on more than several occassions throughout a year.

Oh, I almost forgot. What color should the toilets be in Anand Bathrooms? Maybe the same color as a quaaludi?

Jun 11, 09 11:12 pm  · 
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"In German, a mnemonic can be fashioned from the literal meaning of the Latin word complicare. which means "to fold together (zusammenfalten)": the complicated, then, can be rendered graspable via unfolding (Entfaltung), because it thereby becomes simple (einfach) in a sense of naïve or ingenuous (einfältig). But the Latin word complexus means "mutual embrace," or, so to speak, the labyrinthine [emphasis added], the convoluted: here, simplicity already contains within itself the seed of all the complexity that comes to appearance through its own development. In cases of doubt, then, the complicated can be profitably reduced and simplified--but the complex, in contrast, cannot be simplified with impunity. To say that something is complicated means that the finite number of its determinations cannot be grasped directly. To say that something is complex means, by contrast, that the number of its determinations is simply infinite."
Clemens Bellut, "Ach, Luise, lass ... das ist ein zu weites Feld," or: The Gordian Knot of Complexity” in Complexity: Design Strategy and World View (2008).


Eternal wrest ... really only the beginning?


"All the world's a next stage."

Jun 12, 09 8:36 am  · 
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"It is a leap of blind faith to assume a configuration of space and form can control it’s meaning to society and affect politics in a meaningful way. It is all the more blind to assume the purely ideological configuration of space and form without outside forces influencing it will be successful at solving anything."

It seems that you are having trouble because you have pigeonholed yourself here, your conclusion is devaluing your previous statements.

Time (as we experience it) is a constant, so a architect who is conscious and sensitive to a social and political context of a space CAN use a configuration of space and form (with careful attention to temporal shifts) to create a meaningful impact on society.

The 'rational scientific' emergence of architecture is eagerly awaiting advances in neuroscience that will make emotion a variable in a four dimensional equation.

If there was a Complexence Architecture how would you imagine it? Would it be purely utilitarian and cost effective? Much of the deconstructivist inspired two-dimensional art that has been transformed with varying success into three dimensional buildings is an experiment into construction techniques far more than it is a rich didactic theoretical exemplar.

I see this period not as a wasteful foray into the latte soaked minds of the turtleneckista but as a logical progression into a scientific architecture that draws on the experimental formal qualities of our contemporary construction.

Since when is a mind rational? :)

Thanks!

Jun 12, 09 9:21 am  · 
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"Time (as we experience it) is a constant, so a architect who is conscious and sensitive to a social and political context of a space CAN use a configuration of space and form (with careful attention to temporal shifts) to create a meaningful impact on society."

Care to substantiate this?





The 'rational scientific' emergence of architecture is eagerly awaiting advances in neuroscience that will make emotion a variable in a four dimensional equation.

Care to substantiate this?

Jun 12, 09 9:50 am  · 
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Architecture as a whole is not eagerly awaiting this information, rather this information about what color + height + depth + me will mean for architecture is eagerly awaited by myself. The research is already being applied in a rather sickly way in the most primitive of marketing campaigns like those of fast food chains to young children.

Here there is neuropsysiological research that pertains to a certain age and alpha characteristics (those applying to everyone) of tone, color and content that give the marketing professionals a distinct advantage of knowing which lights pop on in the brain when certain objects and sounds show up on the screen. This combined with the 'cold media' nature of television that pushes tactile, aural and visual signals on the recipient, berating them with little chance for cognizant evaluation of the information.

Architecture holds similar qualities of television as being an immersion environment that in part controls how our mind reacts to situations. In particular the delineation between public and private can influence certain personalities to behave in a certain way, take a certain route, etc. As the discipline fuses with the 'advances' provided by the digital revolution we will surely see some of the same research pop up in the built society. A firm in San Diego (HMC) employs neurological research assistants and is partnered with the University of San Diego to use cognition research in creating environments that are more conducive to learning.

Perhaps I should clarify that I did not mean that space and form ALONE could create a meaningful change in society but that given the proper context (say, a publicly accessible digital billboard that was placed in juxtaposition against the White House) would create some sort of impact on society, no?

Thanks!

Academy of Neuroscience for Architecture

Jun 12, 09 11:28 am  · 
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eigenvectors

herrn Das Vagueness

morgan bin ich in Cherry Hill.

I'd like to see the Kahn tour tomorrow, what's the temple doing on saturdays? Thank you for the commentary, I will continue this thread later...Val Kilmer is playing Jim Morrison who was playing Dionysus...chaos or complexity?

all things can be substantiated...decorate our thougths some more, is that substantial enough?

Jun 13, 09 12:22 am  · 
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eigenvectors

(5 samual adams Blackberry Witbier and a Balktika)

"Architecture holds similar qualities of television as being an immersion environment that in part controls how our mind reacts to situations. In particular the delineation between public and private can influence certain personalities to behave in a certain way, take a certain route, etc."

I have these dreams where I start reading text on some white background and I'm certain it's text I've never seen before. The problem is, somehow between being conscious of my dream state and being conscious of my awake state the memory is lost and only reconnected when I re-enter the state in which the memory was formed. How can one be sure of this? Gut instincts, the L.E.J. Brouwers basis for mathematics, unfornately his brief case of work was stolen on a train and his attic caught fire that had much of his work. The founder of something mythical to the foundations of mathematics, had all his work disappear, just to enhance his mythical thought...

lorimipsum - is throwing standard emprical representation of nature at us hardcore here, oddly enough based on the premise of throurough 'a priori' rational thinking.

if we unclutter all out thought here, what could essentialy be at issue here is - the line between sensual ontological experience and chemcially and virtually ontological experience.

architecture being the most natural here.

"to use cognition research in creating environments that are more conducive to learning"

that is some scary shit, but was is learning here if approached from a strictly empirical manner than nothing more than efficient absorbtion of ROTE learning.

Huizinga, the book that gets attention after the 6 pack is gone, in 1979 Jimmy Carter re-instated home brewing, allowing Americans to brew 200 gallons of beer a year, that's a 6 pack a night.

PLAY.

let's just say, Complexence (pronounced 'Com-Plex-Gence) requires 'playful' strategies of logical approach to clearly attack a problem, logic is only broken to be reconstructed with a longer list of alrorithms for the effecient execuation of the solvent (formula).

Being conscious and predicting time ahead of time don't equate...that's blind faith, overconfidence, counting on the old, etc...

Jun 13, 09 1:13 am  · 
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eigenvectors

to un pigeonhold me self

i must unexplain or re-explaing

the natural ontological experience of space and form and time.

Jun 13, 09 1:16 am  · 
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eigenvectors

vielen vielen dank

Herrn Lauf, Adams, und Loremipsum.

Jun 13, 09 1:17 am  · 
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chatter of clouds

the imaginations of user, builder architect, urban planner, politician, national constitution, and maybe-God...imaginary /mythical time of place increasingly from a differently felt moment-in-an-eternity to an eternity-in-a-moment, heraclitus and parmenides...different but the same. paralled by the demonstrator, the bulldozer, the oppositional maverick, enemy of state, and maybe-God.

but, the predatorial architect can think to assume the ideological role of a maybe-God...ex. a zumthor isn't trying to trap, even kill time, in his architecture? an eternity-of-this? pawson collpasing the world and its time in a blindingly white singularity? lynn confusing time out of its own improbabilities and intricacies by his congealing digital formal improbabilities and intricacies that bear the stain of representation without the overtness of likelihood except by exclusion (i.e. representing what lies outside representation, unlikelihood)...till his time too is inscribed statically.

Jun 14, 09 3:51 am  · 
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aspect

its hard to destory something that is empty.

Jun 14, 09 10:03 am  · 
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Been reading The Judicious Eye: Architecture Against the Other Arts by Rykwert (2008), and, for some reason I'm not entirely sure of, it came to mind as I read the initial post here. I think it's like I see The Judicious Eye as what the above essay draft could be were it really developed (into a dense 492 page book). What the above essay is empty of (and The Judicious Eye certainly is not) is direct reference to specific buildings and designs along with the architects and artists thereof. Interestingly though, The Judicious Eye is more a complicated subject unfolded, and not so much a complexity. Treating the subject of The Judicious Eye as a complexity could be a very robust endeavor however.

Also just now in the preparatory stage of putting together a html-publication of Seroux d'Agincourt's 'Architecture' section of The History of Art Through Its Monuments From Its Decline in the Fourth Century to Its Renewal in the Sixteenth.* ** Like with The Judicious Eye, here is a complicated subject unfolded, but I think I'm going to attempt (re)treating the subject as a complexity.

Awaiting anxiously, and lots of lists (to go through).

Jun 14, 09 3:36 pm  · 
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eigenvectors
aspect

, the essay was intended to put forth the proposition that scripting was an advancement in modern architecture via complexity...the only real advancement since modern archtiecture...it's empty because I hadn't made a point yet...now I know you're good at scripting, can you tell me from that how a point could be made? if at all?

Quibble of Sundog & Halo

"lynn confusing time out of its own improbabilities and intricacies by his congealing digital formal improbabilities and intricacies that bear the stain of representation without the overtness of likelihood except by exclusion (i.e. representing what lies outside representation, unlikelihood)...till his time too is inscribed statically"

this one made my brain hurt, maybe I should have a drink. so let me get this straight, to imagine the unlikey and represent the unlikely you are escaping time, because probability is a direct result of the very existence of time? i.e. if time doesn't exist the question of probable is irrelevant, because if time didn't exist it's all or none. but if something representing the improbable remains improbable long enough as a representation, then the representation itself becomes a piece of time, which can only occur when the representation becomes a probability of something controlled by time, like language

Jabber Wocky?

Lauf I intended to write the essay without real reference, maybe a bad idea, but thought without real reference the flow of conscioussness would be clearer.

but on emptiness, or the importance of Nothing in the western culture, there are many many good books I could recommend. the power of nothing, that which does avoid time and represenation at the same time is quite remarkable, the very source or non-source of myths and the reason for the creation of unsubstantiated ideologies, that end up substantiating themselves, because there is nothing to blance them...i.e. if on one side you have nothing and on the other you have thought, there is no end to what thought can compile itself into.



Jun 15, 09 11:05 pm  · 
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"...but thought without real reference the flow of conscioussness would be clearer."

Ah, so you'd rather it not get too complex.

Jun 16, 09 9:25 am  · 
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aspect

i'm not very good at scripting, just play around with it.

here are a few reference regarding to ur intented topic-

http://spacesymmetrystructure.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/rheotomic-surfaces/

http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2006/10/27/escape-from-the-future-architecture-language-and-the-computational-turn/

i do not 100% agree to what they say, but good reference though...

scripting is a major advancement in architecture, becos from ancient to modern/decon architecture, architects still operates with drawing as representing an idea from their mind... scripting has its own logic which devoid of representation, u think of a language n u think of its operation before u think of how it looks like.

Jun 16, 09 9:26 am  · 
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aspect

btw, may be ur essay is more interesting when u write it more simple like the way u response to us, do more research, focus on one aspect, start building up ur argument...etc the traditional way^^

juz my 2 cent

Jun 16, 09 9:30 am  · 
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I can well see that scripting is an advancement in drawing dexterity with the aim of an advancement in production, but it's not altogether evident that scripting is an advancement in architecture.

Does scripting really generate a more enlightened, more liberal architecture?

For example, does scripting engender an architecture of maximun individual freedom? Does scripting engender an open-minded architecture or a more tolerant architecture?

Or does scripting really (only) come to engender a new style of architecture?

Jun 16, 09 12:04 pm  · 
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71. Methods of construction in use before and after the decline of art.
4420 4421 4422 4423 4424 4425 4426 4427

Kind of makes you see just how relative 'advancement' can be.

Jun 17, 09 3:08 pm  · 
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eigenvectors

thank you aspect, I was getting into Costa surfaces the other day, thinkining maybe it would be a good car engine piston?

arch.inCritical.Condition - I understand what you're asking, but can architecture even do that to any degree of sucess...you're hinting at meaning and politics and I have yet to see an architect get results they intended, it's usually an acident or luck, or the shear fact that they did the architecture for an already very powerful polical force.

if you could qoute some architect saying - the curve here was going to give the people of the city freedom, and then find proof it did, i will research it a bit. and maybe change my stance if the architecture was comissioned by a religious group or very powerful (dictatorship) the meaning and politics the architecture expresses does not count, it's not inherent.

I believe LeDeuzzy, Q. will answer me no problem.

advancement in technique is always an advancement regardless of it's meaning, because the advancement allows any meaning to be created, not just meanings limited to the language.

Jun 18, 09 8:26 pm  · 
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aspect

the finding of orders in things has always been an advancement in architecture...

scripting free up ur preconceptive mind, and how much more "individual freedom" can u ask for?

Jun 18, 09 9:33 pm  · 
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so simple

Jun 19, 09 8:37 am  · 
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The examples were only possible examples. The questions were leading, not rhetorical. So again, where/what is the evidence of scripting's advancement of architecture?

The order of what things? The order of the cart before the horse? Proven solutions are not to be confused with preconceived notions. Nonetheless, assuming a preconceptive mind embeds a preconceived notion itself.



This church is rendered famous as being the place where, on the 15th of October 1764, Gibbon "sat musing amidst the ruins of the Capitol, and conceived the idea of writing the 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.'"

In the left transcept an isolated octagonal chapel, dedicated to S. Helena, is said by the church authorities to stand on the site of an altar erected by Augustus--Ara primogeniti Dei--to commemorate to the Cumæan sibyl’s prophecy of the coming of the Savior.




Amidst? Well, it was amidst the snippets of White Russian, Gabonese, and Hindustani where I heard another Spaziergänger say into her cellphone, "The banquet began with small step appetizers and ended with giant leap desserts." There were also Radfahrer and Läufer, but they weren't talking.

What kind of dog is that?
Alabay.
Are they related to St. Bernards?
The St. Bernard was bred from the Alabay.


Ah the memories... Have you ever seen a saluki run at like 10 meters a second about 8 degrees off its target and at almost the last second make a sharp turn and then boom!? Literally breathtaking.


Central Park, Autumn 1994
Are they salukis?
Yes.
There's something about the color.
Yes. Cream is rare.

Jun 20, 09 12:03 pm  · 
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aspect

towards the end of da vinci work, he stopped drawing the behavour of waves, instead he started specifying in writings... i think he began to see the light of the abstractive power in scripting^^

Jun 21, 09 11:39 am  · 
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Has the abstrative power of scripting even been questioned here?

Or, are you suggesting that the abstractive power of scripting is evidence of scripting's advancement of architecture?

Jun 21, 09 11:47 am  · 
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aspect

the abstractive power of writing to be concise...

scripting is one of the many format in writing to describe the world.

or u can design ur own milling machine or 3d printer to visualize ur work if u prefer to write with ur own language as suggested by BLDG-

http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/bloomsday.html






Jun 21, 09 1:02 pm  · 
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aspect

visualize ur writing is already a major advancement here... or at least the scientist wouldn't ask such questions or doubt if it would be better if his complex number sq.root -1 formular to be hand-drawn.

Jun 21, 09 1:14 pm  · 
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hillandrock

Ledeuzzy, Q.

Opus reticulatum is brickwork... not stonework.

Jun 21, 09 2:57 pm  · 
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Like I already said:
"I can well see that scripting is an advancement in drawing dexterity with the aim of an advancement in production, but it's not altogether evident that scripting is an advancement in architecture."

abstract 0.0

Ichnographia Quondam

Advancements in virtual architecture, yes. But does an advancement in virtual architecture necessarily or automatically translate into an advancement in real architecture?

Is this an advancement in architecture?
Is this an advancement in architecture?
Is this an advancement in architecture?
Is this an advancement in architecture?
Is this an advancement in architecture?

Jun 21, 09 2:58 pm  · 
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hillandrock

Also, they are not stuck into a "mass of rubble," rather they were placed into opus caementicium... or concrete.

That citation you're using does a major disservice to the sophistication or Roman construction techniques.

Jun 21, 09 3:02 pm  · 
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hillandrock

Also, a better question...

Can any of you all take any of these claims and substantiate them into any sort of quantitative data necessary by science to prove a casual relationship, correlation or causation?

This conversation is "over-intellectualizing" something that considerably does not exist because none of the things can actually be measured in units other than abstractly.

The only proof architecture could considerably have is profit per square foot or square meter.

Jun 21, 09 3:05 pm  · 
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You'll have to take issue with Seroux d'Agincourt.

Otherwise, look again.

Jun 21, 09 3:12 pm  · 
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hillandrock

"Opus reticulatum (also known as reticulated work) is a form of brickwork used in ancient Roman architecture. It consists of diamond-shaped bricks of tuff which are placed around a core of opus caementicium."

Jun 21, 09 3:16 pm  · 
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hillandrock

brickwork = preformed component

Jun 21, 09 3:45 pm  · 
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afterparty

"Time (as we experience it) is a constant, so a architect who is conscious and sensitive to a social and political context of a space CAN use a configuration of space and form (with careful attention to temporal shifts) to create a meaningful impact on society."


-to suggest that "[t]ime (as we experience it) is a constant" does not align itself with among Einstein's most approachable explanations of relativity. Surely you don't mean to suggest that people 'experience' increments of time's passage as constant regardless of the activity (waiting, running, laughing, torture, sex, incarceration, illness, idleness) which accompanies their passage?

And what of childhood and adult awareness of time? Relativity condenses time with age as each moment, hour, or year is dwarfed by the growing relative experience of time which has preceded it.

I suggest you spend more time researching the foundations of your claims and less time trying to overly complicate your sentence structure with expensive vocabulary. Your work is without a single citation and lacks the cohesion and research to defend any of the rather arrogantly posited theses.

Jun 22, 09 3:52 pm  · 
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eigenvectors

i guess i just don't drink as much as I used to, it's 3 weeks later and i am responding...

this forum served it's purpose, as aspect says, just write like you're writing to us...and I did write a hot paragraph somewhere in here...

Lauf, i can't even keep up, but when I retire from money making work, I think you'll be in trouble...

scripting, one of its attributes, is a rationalization of what seemed to be quite irrational, it's a clarification of the complex, et.c..

vielen dank.

Jul 5, 09 5:02 pm  · 
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