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Going for my MArch after my MRP smart or stupid?

joben

I am about to enter my first semester of Albanys Masters in Regional Planning Program. After I graduate I wanted to go to the City College of New York to get a Masters in Architecture because it has always been an interest to me, and I feel with my undergrad in environmental planning, a masters in regional planning and a masters in architecture I will be able to do what I really want and that is to design buildings/communities based around the concept of sustainable and more efficient living. Is getting my masters in Regional Planning (which is 2 years) and than a MArch (which is 3 years) completely ridiculous and a waste? Should I maybe look into landscape architecture instead? I feel with the way the economy is now and the way people have been talking about more and more planners competing and loosing their jobs, not only will this be interesting for me, but will also make me more competitive... Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 
May 14, 09 9:53 am
citizen

Joben, what you're talking about is urban design... a kind-of professional nether region that draws from both the architecture and (physical) planning disciplines.

Master's degrees with a focus in urban design are available at places like Harvard, Columbia and the University of Washington, among others. In essence, a master's in urban design accomplishes in two or three years what you're considering in five with the dual degrees. The hitch is that the two-year degree will require an earlier degree in architecture.

Architects (as you'll see above and elsewhere) routinely dismiss planning degrees, but for someone interested in urban design, the larger understanding of urban forces (policy, economics, sociology, etc) a planning background should provide will be missing from an architecture program. On the flip side, the technical skillset required for urban design almost always comes from architecture training.

What I'd suggest, given your scenario:

1. take whatever courses you can in physical design
2. start talking to architects and urban designers, see what they do, tell them your interests, and listen for advice.

Good luck!

May 14, 09 6:11 pm  · 
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joben

I was planning on attending Albany university to pursue land use/environmental planning but also in hopes of taking a few architecture courses at the renssalears polytechnic institute and see if I could beef up some of my knowledge in that area. I was also planning on taking like an art class or 2 to work on my artistic skills, just in case I wanted to start a portfolio if I wanted to go to architecture school after. Does this sound like a legitimate plan or just a waste of time and money? How do I just start talking to architects? I dont know any architects

May 14, 09 9:22 pm  · 
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citizen

I would focus on architecture/design courses, less on art, since your time is limited.

Find out the people in your city that do what you think you might like to do, i.e., urban design and planning. Do this by looking in the phone book, online, the local AIA and APA websites, etcetera. Write the principles of the firms and agencies a nice letter saying you're a new student in planning with an interest in urban design, and you wonder if they'd have a half hour to meet with you and show you around their office. Some will be too busy; others would love to meet with you.

May 14, 09 11:49 pm  · 
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spaceman spiff

yeah, don't look at them as artistic courses...technically, what you want to develop are the "graphic communication" skills to express the ideas that you have...in other words, learning how to draw/model/sculpt to say specfic things, and in a visual language that other designers will understand...

if you have these skills, then just having a planning background isn't so bad..otherwise, i would say do architecture over planning also...

go find, and attend public talks and events where you can go listen to other designers...ask questions, meet other people at these events...you'll always learn a little something from everyone you meet, and then the odd one will pay off big time...

May 16, 09 6:47 am  · 
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i know that the university of pennsylvania offers a joint degree program in planning and architecture... this would allow you to kill two birds with one stone in less time than it would take to do them separately... you should look into this and other joint degree programs...

May 16, 09 10:03 am  · 
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