I would like to hear from anyone who has experienced or has a friend who went to a french canadian universities such as University of Montreal and Laval University (they're actually the only one's providing degrees in arch). What did you/he/she think of it? What did you/he/she made out of it (for the "individuals are the one's who define their undergrad experience" crowd)? How does the school fare compared to other canadian and american school?
and anything else you think might be worth mentioning.
geographically and somewhat academically i guess...but come on, it's a bit of a stretch...i'm not dissing mcgill, it actually looks pretty cool, but for the it's pseudo french experience, i think i'll pass.
Just as many would argue that the Quebecois themselves are pseudo french. My friend went to France and they called her Quebecois (in a condescending way). I went to Quebec, and some local called me 'tou-REE-st'.
You want a 'french' experience? What does that even mean?...
I didn't meant to talk shit about Montreal French authenticity. Does the fact that I observed the dualities of French and English culture seldom interconnect even in it's most prestigious institutions, bring a different perspective to the nature of my comment? Thought they are some important distinction to be made between the French culture, Quebec culture or even any other francophone culture, I do consider all of them as viable and authentic linguistic experience, cuz thats whats important to me, language. I think, I might be way off, that McGill as no problem of discarding the French part of it's French-Canadian identity. please man, don't make such assumption on my life experience, I know it's easy with internet anonymity and all, but your response was perfect and totally legit until the last phrase...
sorry, my bad. that was uncalled for. but no more uncalled for than suggesting that McGill or Montreal is pseudo french. dislcaimer: i have never, nor will ever attend mcgill.
i'm just making the point that it's CANADIAN, not french. the entire city and province and everything in it is kind of pseudo french because it's not french at all!
yes it's francophonic, but if it's a truly francophonic experience you're after, why not go to france? you didn't mention that it was language experience you were after in either of your first two posts...perhaps it's a citizenship issue, perhaps europe is too far or too boring or too old. i don't know.
i thought mcgill was conducted entirely in french, no? mais oui monsieur!
Now I'm not going to get into the whole French / Quebecois / Canadian thing... But I can assure you that there are only two architecture schools in Canada that offer instruction in the French language (Yes we know that it's not the same as the French in France. Nevertheless, that's what we call it).
McGill on the other hand, is an entirely English speaking institution. Sure, you'll hear (Canadian) French being spoken around campus, but all lessons, labs, lectures, examinations, etc. are conducted in (Canadian) English.
Now, back to the question at hand...
Like most schools in Canada unfortunately, little is known outside of their own walls beyond rumour and here-say. The situation is further exacerbated by that whole language divide.
That being said, both Laval and Montreal have produced some very fine graduates (basically everyone of note practicing in Quebec not named Dan Hanganu), so I imagine they must be at least decent.
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I would like to hear from anyone who has experienced or has a friend who went to a french canadian universities such as University of Montreal and Laval University (they're actually the only one's providing degrees in arch). What did you/he/she think of it? What did you/he/she made out of it (for the "individuals are the one's who define their undergrad experience" crowd)? How does the school fare compared to other canadian and american school?
and anything else you think might be worth mentioning.
thank you
Do you consider McGill to be a French-Canadian school?
geographically and somewhat academically i guess...but come on, it's a bit of a stretch...i'm not dissing mcgill, it actually looks pretty cool, but for the it's pseudo french experience, i think i'll pass.
Just as many would argue that the Quebecois themselves are pseudo french. My friend went to France and they called her Quebecois (in a condescending way). I went to Quebec, and some local called me 'tou-REE-st'.
You want a 'french' experience? What does that even mean?...
dude, did you just suggest that McGill was somehow not French-Canadian?
and last i checked, all of Quebec was in CANADA. yet somehow Montreal is now Pseudo-French?
let me ask you this: Would you go to Mexico for a true Spanish experience because they speak Spanish?
i'm guessing you never been to Montreal or Mexico for that matter, and likely not even France.
I didn't meant to talk shit about Montreal French authenticity. Does the fact that I observed the dualities of French and English culture seldom interconnect even in it's most prestigious institutions, bring a different perspective to the nature of my comment? Thought they are some important distinction to be made between the French culture, Quebec culture or even any other francophone culture, I do consider all of them as viable and authentic linguistic experience, cuz thats whats important to me, language. I think, I might be way off, that McGill as no problem of discarding the French part of it's French-Canadian identity. please man, don't make such assumption on my life experience, I know it's easy with internet anonymity and all, but your response was perfect and totally legit until the last phrase...
sorry, my bad. that was uncalled for. but no more uncalled for than suggesting that McGill or Montreal is pseudo french. dislcaimer: i have never, nor will ever attend mcgill.
i'm just making the point that it's CANADIAN, not french. the entire city and province and everything in it is kind of pseudo french because it's not french at all!
yes it's francophonic, but if it's a truly francophonic experience you're after, why not go to france? you didn't mention that it was language experience you were after in either of your first two posts...perhaps it's a citizenship issue, perhaps europe is too far or too boring or too old. i don't know.
i thought mcgill was conducted entirely in french, no? mais oui monsieur!
Uhhh... McGill isn't French. At all.
Now I'm not going to get into the whole French / Quebecois / Canadian thing... But I can assure you that there are only two architecture schools in Canada that offer instruction in the French language (Yes we know that it's not the same as the French in France. Nevertheless, that's what we call it).
McGill on the other hand, is an entirely English speaking institution. Sure, you'll hear (Canadian) French being spoken around campus, but all lessons, labs, lectures, examinations, etc. are conducted in (Canadian) English.
Now, back to the question at hand...
Like most schools in Canada unfortunately, little is known outside of their own walls beyond rumour and here-say. The situation is further exacerbated by that whole language divide.
That being said, both Laval and Montreal have produced some very fine graduates (basically everyone of note practicing in Quebec not named Dan Hanganu), so I imagine they must be at least decent.
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