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Thesis project - need suggestions

I have decided on combining 

1. automobile assembly unit

2. showroom of the respective company

3. a gallery/museum for automobiles related to the company

4. a drag racing track

5. an indoor arena with visual stimulation's of different automobiles (a gaming arena related to automobiles)

what do you think of this for a a thesis project? i would also like an appropriate name for the project. 

 
Nov 11, 13 11:41 am
utopianrobot

it's a project, not a thesis yet.  what questions are you asking about any of these things you've picked?  what's significant about why you chose these programs?  it's so much program and what does the dog track have to do with all this other stuff about automobiles?  one of these program alone is full of thesis topics in itself.  how are you defining an automobile assembly unit?  do we need more cars?  what are the environmental impacts?  what are the social costs?  what kind of cars?  what's your take on how an automobile is assembled?  by hand? by robots? what materials, what navigation technology, is it even driven by a human?  how is it powered?  petroleum, electricity?  will we need automobiles in 10 years? 20 years? 30 years?  what kind of cars do you think we need now or into the future?  what impact will this have on infrastructure? on housing? on cities?  do we need parking lots, gas stations, parking garages?  

Nov 11, 13 2:00 pm  · 
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elaz

ok, so you like cars - why the hell would that make a good thesis project?

Nov 11, 13 2:09 pm  · 
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its not dog track. its a drag race track. and yes the questions u asked, i have looked into it and based on it i have decided abt the project. i just wanna kno if this will work for the thesis project. the combination of these topics. or shud i jus stick to a automobile industry?

no, its not tat i like cars. and i didnt say it wud be a good thesis project!

Nov 12, 13 2:50 am  · 
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First off, you need to figure out the kind of audience you are going to focus on with such a project. Given that the entire development will focus on activities related to a single automobile manufacturer, you need to figure out who the proposal will be directed towards.
With the automobile assembly, you required a lot of research regarding what goes into such a plant. 

Before I go any further, do you have the required site? 

Nov 12, 13 4:38 am  · 
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Well, Bangalore has a lot of street racing and drag racing events happening. There is no track/circuit as such for these activities. nandhi hills is were few of the races happen. Close to this region is also the industrial zone. My idea was to bring in the racers as well the the public to the site. coz nandhi hills also has a lot of frequent visitors. just designing a industry wudn be any different. this design can attract these visitors and also the buyers. the assembly unit wud be something similar to that of the german transparent automobile industry, where the buyers can view the process of assembling a car. so my site wud be near the region what i just mentioned earlier.

Nov 12, 13 9:11 am  · 
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As per the land use, you will need to find a site that sits in an industrial or industrial mixed use area. 
That being said, it's really challenging to have general public travel to such areas on a regular basis, owing to the distance of the site from the CBD as well as traffic issues. You can try locating the site somewhere on the outskirts on Bangalore, though preferably on the Mysore side since there are large tufts of agriculture land available that can be converted. 
Drag racing again is a very age specific activity and needs to be tackled accordingly. The entire project should be as sustainable as possible.
 

Also, the entire area in and around Nandi hills is primarily the green belt where it is highly impossible and unadvised to have anything that is polluting in nature. 

And again, it depends on what you and your college are looking for in terms of details. Like someone said, a manufacturing unit itself is worthy enough of a thesis. 
The topic in general could be really interesting. Do keep me posted about what you decide to do...  

Nov 13, 13 6:32 am  · 
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thanks for the input... i ll keep you posted abt what i decide... i guess it wud be better for me to either just go wid the industry or the drag racing arena... anyway .. i ll let you... 

Nov 13, 13 8:23 am  · 
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Sure thing. Just make sure you have a selling point at the end of it. The juror would be more interested in finding out how well it can be implemented in the current scenario. 

Nov 13, 13 8:58 am  · 
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utopianrobot

Hi Srilekha,

A thesis on urban street racing in Bangalore sounds fascinating.  have you interviewed any of the racers?  have you observed the races in person?  do you actually drive a car in any of these races?  the purpose of asking you these questions is to uncover more about the sub-culture.  what do these racers need to support their racing?  why do they race where they do?  is this an informal activity or does the city close down public streets for them to race?  what times of day/night do they race?  who are the racers?  are they mostly men or do women participate too?  is this a sport for the wealthy or do other classes also race?  what types of cars do they use?  how do they modify them or do they race the cars without modifications to the engines, body, etc?  what is your criticism and interpretation of street racing?  how do they express themselves in terms of advertising or is it an underground network?  all of these things can inform your choice of program, site/multiple sites, design aesthetics, etc.

once you have a better knowledge of that (maybe you already do?) then you can determine the program.  this could be a very provocative and unconventional interpretation of how someone uses and experiences the city; which is highly desirable in my opinion.  who wants to just do what everyone else has done before?  how can you challenge people's perceptions and generate new knowledge for the architecture profession? 

and lastly i have to say that converting agricultural land into what would amount to an automobile showroom/factory and a drag racing strip sounds boring and also highly unsustainable for the environment and the local agricultural community.  likewise, building this proposed program in nandi hills, which sounds like a protected environmental area, seems to be another highly unsustainable decision not just for the environment but also for the greater public looking for refuge from the city.

good luck, this could be a really exciting thesis.  

Nov 13, 13 2:24 pm  · 
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utopianrobot

follow up:  also in what ways have the street racers already changed the city?  can your design project support the racers and their interests and do something beneficial for the city, perhaps socially or from an infrastructure standpoint?  

Nov 13, 13 5:43 pm  · 
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utopianrobot, thank u for ua views on this. Yes i have pretty good knowledge about racing in bangalore. but racing here has gone down lately coz of the strict government rules, coz most of them are illegal. so basically what i wanna design is create a platform for such, where one not oly has racing events but also the non-racers can experience through the indoor gaming arena which stimulates the effects of a race car. (a lil similar to ferrari world, not the whole concept like it though). and about the age factor, its not jus teens or young adults who come into picture, becoz of sponors and itself being a business brings in the adult age groups too. i shall re-think about the site. i referred to, bangalore's master plan 2015, was thinking about a site near the valley regions which comes under the industrial zone. it is near to nandhi hills but does not fall under the green belt region. but i shall look into different options as well.  

Nov 14, 13 4:14 am  · 
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Non Sequitur

Srilekha, although I am sure every school and every country has their own academic requirements, this sounds more like a 3rd year undergrad project than a Thesis. Your situation could simply be resolved by incorporating a few NASCAR tracks with bleachers. Not much of an intellectual discussion.

On the other, for example, in my city, street races result in immediate license suspension, road-side car impound and anywhere between 1,000 and 10,000 (USD) fine... let's not forget a quadrupling of your insurance premiums. That is because racing cars on city streets is both dangerous and stupid, regardless of how "good" the drivers claim to be. People can make their own bad decisions, but here, we have legal drag courses and race tracks where regular people can bring (or rent) their own cars and race without legal penalty.

What you should look at is the social ramifications that would exist if you removed said illegal activity from the streets. It's a stretch to suggest this has any ripples besides commercializing on an illegal activity but perhaps there lies your argument. Maybe, if your local government would invest in the proper racing infrastructure, they can collect additional income through whatever fees idiots pay in an attempt to cheat death.

Nov 14, 13 9:21 am  · 
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x-jla

Or, why not play devils advocate and argue that illegal street racing is somehow a positive part of the culture in that city.  Ever hear the saying "If you cant beat em join em."  Perhaps rather than trying to sanitize this underground activity you find a way to facilitate it in its natural environment but do so in a way that reduces the risk.  It would be a more informal thing.  Look into the terms informal architecture and everyday urbanism. 

heres some questions to think about....

Could you possibly make some sort of temporary or permanent accomidations to make this activity safer?  how do you design for an illegal activity?  How can design be used to relocate such an activity to a safer location?  Can something be designed to discourage this activity in busy areas and encourage it  in other areas?  (Sort of like what they do with those brackets on public benchs to discourage skateboarding...)  Is there a "terrain vague" area where this could take place away from the general public?  Could it be made safer by moving it?  Can design be used to passively control or persuade illegal activity?  Can design be a tool for behavioral control or persuasion?  What are other ways that design can be used to tame an illegal but culturally relevant activity? 

Over all you need to think of the greater applications for this type of design approach...Think broad, but use this project as a specific example of this broader idea.  Also, try not to think so much about program until you have the idea solid.

I dislike racing personally, and have seen people get killed by racing, but sometimes it may be better to facilitate something in a safer way than to try to police it away?  I think this a vice, and there are many examples from around the world where vices are accepted as long as they stay out of sight and stay as safe as possible. 

Nov 14, 13 12:03 pm  · 
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x-jla

Also do some research on street racing in LA.  They have a huge street racing problem/culture.

Nov 14, 13 12:07 pm  · 
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thank you for tat guys... like one of u said, i want to bring out the culture of racing... but my project isn't solely based on this... what i am trying to do here is combining the above mentioned topics together.. i might have to exclude some... but if i do take up all those into my thesis, it is a pretty big project... so i dont think it is like a 3rd year project...  its not just a race track... the design is where one can experience cars... whether one drives or not... the assembly unit showing how the machine is built, the showroom for the clients/customers, the indoor gaming arena with all the car stimulators where visitors can experience it, the gallery o museum where the history is shown and the track just for the racers... history, the making, knowledge, experience and entertainment of cars... this is what i am trying to do... i dont kno if it is too much or less or if its something which cant be done..

Nov 14, 13 1:26 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

It's too less is the theme here in these replies. You're essentially designing a race-track/casino/museum. That's a mid-year studio project.  You'll need to throw in some intellectual narrative as to why this is important (liking drag racing is not sufficient) and/or take on a much more broader approach: like, say, take an entire neighbourhood and convert it according to car racing. Be careful not to romanticize it as well, cars are just objects and it's easy to get distracted by them.

I see this as someone saying, here are hundred of homeless people, let me build all of them houses in this one area. Problem solved, they are no longer homeless! Not very deep.

Anyways, look at your what past thesis your school has produced. If they are all simple agglomerations of programs, then you're on the right path. Like I wrote earlier, each school has it's own benchmarks for what constitutes acceptable thesis topics.

Nov 14, 13 2:47 pm  · 
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yup... i get what ua saying... i shall look into it... thank you ...

Nov 15, 13 2:33 am  · 
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