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stargazer

i think the idea of "Ar." is somehow in connection to the use of "Ir." for engineers

the first time that i see "Ar." is on a letter from a Indian student writing to my boss appreciating his architecture

I'd second the idea of "Ar." since it's straight forward to tell who you are and is respectful to your profession.

May 20, 08 3:10 pm
stargazer

whereas the confusion of situations like Ar. John Smith, RA, AIA doesn't necessarily exist.

1. letter addressing a PhD holder:

Dear Dr. Smith,

(i think it's uncommon to say Dear Dr. Smith PhD.,)



2. letter addressed by a PhD holder:

Best regards,
John Smith, PhD.


do you agree that it works well for "Dear Ar. Smith," for writing a formal letter / email?

May 20, 08 3:15 pm
Bloopox

mleitner: No, I don't need different cards for different states. I have one card, that says "George Bloopox, Architect", and has my office's address. I can use that card in my home state, and in the 2 neighboring states in which I'm also licensed (neither requires that I reincorporate in their state), and in any of the states that allow an NCARB-certified architect to solicit work without first obtaining registration there (because I'm NCARB certified).
But: some states do require that an architect's business card include the name of the state and the number of his license there - so if I were licensed in one of those then I'd need new cards...
As for the other states: I can't solicit work in them without obtaining a license in them. So I shouldn't be handing out any cards in any of those until/unless I get a license there - though if I handed out a card for another purpose (i.e. I want a social contact to have my address, phone & email) then the state board is not going to go after me for unlicensed practice on that basis alone!


As for "Ar." - it's not bad. Good luck getting 50 state boards to agree on any title though.
and I've seen the slightly different "AR" used to mean any of "Account Representative", "Anal Retentive", "Airborne Reconnaissance", and "Arrest Report" - so not sure I love those associations...

May 20, 08 3:57 pm
quizzical

Bloopox: where does one find specific information about "states that allow an NCARB-certified architect to solicit work without first obtaining registration"?

This is a new concept for me and it sure would make multi-state practice simpler if this concept is widespread.

May 20, 08 4:59 pm
Bloopox

One finds that info on NCARB's site. I posted the link in one of my posts above. There are about 20 states that allow this, though some have certain additional conditions attached.

May 20, 08 10:08 pm
Bloopox
http://www.ncarb.org/stateboards/MBRfaqpractice.asp

(See question 37)

May 20, 08 10:15 pm
quizzical

thanks Bloopox ... very helpful.

May 21, 08 8:57 am
mightylittle™

dick cheney's an architect

May 21, 08 6:35 pm
Andrew Teng

What I hate about the AIA designation is the national connotation. I'm a Canadian citizen studying in an American school and will probably end up working in the states. But I would prefer that any letters after my name represent the fact that I'm an architect, not a member of a national club.

I understand that accreditation is different in each country, but to qualify as and use the designation "architect," one must have achieved accreditation somewhere. (The accreditation standards of different countries , of course, is another discussion entirely.)

In summation:

Druvius, architect

or

Druvius

is what I'll use if we're talking about business cards. And if we're talking about CVs and resumes then listing AIA, LEED AP, etc. is obviously acceptable under the appropriate sections ie. professional accreditions/associations.

May 22, 08 3:58 am
ARCHlTORTURE

what i love about the business cards my firm is currently using is that there is absolutely no way to tell what the company does unless you know the designations that follow people's names...

no where on the card does it say 'architecture' 'architects' 'planning' 'design' 'engineering' etc etc...

since i currently have no designations, except LEED which i refuse to put after my name, my cards seem extremely ambiguous... i could be a lawyer, information specialist, a secret agent...just about anything i want to tell the person i'm giving the card to...

this by the way is extremely helpful when meeting people you never expect to see again in your life...haha

"yes i'm an arms dealer...heres my card"

May 26, 08 9:38 pm
idiotwind

ar. would be cool, but after a while you will be at the grocery store and someone you know will say "hey, I haven't seen you in a while architect smith." that's kind of silly. even if they said mr. smith architect, it sounds weird.

May 27, 08 2:08 pm
marlowe

I'd argue that using any title in casual conversation is a little uptight and unnecessary. Several of my family members are doctors and none of them use dr. in their name outside of their medical practice.

I think the real issue here is how we, as architects, can consistantly identify orselves to the general public.

May 27, 08 2:24 pm
idiotwind

what about the 15 year old bagger who doesn't know any better?

May 27, 08 2:25 pm
kakacabeza

The use of a professional title as a prefix is common in some cultures, such as in hispanic countries and in Germany, but I think it would take a lot of work to get it done here. And like someone mentioned before, the titles Dr., Prof., Rev. etc. do not carry with them any kind of formal credential. I'm sure you could put Ar. in front of your name without state sanction, but I wouldn't

Personally, I don't care for any letters after the name. I think Name,Architect is the best or if you are worried about complexities of multi-state registration, put "Registered Architect - State" on the line below your name on the business card.

May 27, 08 2:30 pm
florrojas

Hi! First time I post. I was waiting to see someone mention de option of "Arch. xxx xxx". As in Spanish we refer to arquitects like this "Arq. xxx xxx"

Aug 15, 16 11:00 am
eightteen

its "Arch" End of discussions

Jan 30, 20 5:53 am
proto

I prefer the NY Times style guide (name-dropping manner) of referring to professionals:

"The architect, Proto"

as if you should have heard of me...




go on, touch me

Jan 30, 20 12:45 pm
leonizer

I've used "renaissance man" before, quite well actually. 

Jan 31, 20 3:57 pm
SneakyPete

Ar. Duane Renaud, RA

Jan 31, 20 4:08 pm

borrow, or rob?

RangrStudio

how about Arch. FirstName LastName? I like the idea of it being pronounced as in archdiocese or, come to think of it, as in architect! 


Maybe it will get us the societal respect we deserve!

Feb 13, 20 12:30 am
Non Sequitur

do you really deserve it tho?

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