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CAD with a command line

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Is there a software package -- besides AutoCAD -- where you can type the commands? I know Vectorworks lets you use keyboard shortcuts (without pressing a modifier key), but having learned AutoCAD, I find other cad packages with icons hard to use.

And is AutoCAD, in its latest release, losing its command line?

Am I dinosaur? Etc.

 
Feb 4, 08 9:07 pm
Living in Gin

Rhino uses a command line.

Feb 4, 08 9:38 pm  · 
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FOG Lite

ACAD will never lose the command line, too many dinosaurs out there.

Feb 4, 08 11:14 pm  · 
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garpike

HEY!

Feb 4, 08 11:32 pm  · 
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garpike

Buttons are for amateurs...

Feb 4, 08 11:32 pm  · 
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Oysters and Trifle

HEY!

Feb 4, 08 11:54 pm  · 
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THEaquino

who doesn't love PL (space) 10'<90?

But typing commands is so much faster than hitting buttons

Feb 5, 08 1:22 am  · 
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rehiggins

there's still the traditional command line, but there's also the option of having the command line pop-up at your crosshairs (like a tool tip)--it can be a little confusing if you have both enabled…

Feb 5, 08 11:43 am  · 
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crowbert

most software anymore you can set your own hotkeys. Some allow different preferences that you can toggle through (like your settings, the office standard, the software default) and a lot of them you can program the same hotkey as the command line would be in ACAD. You can't quite make it seamless, but it can go a long way to help. If I remember correctly ArchiCAD had somewhere on its website a preference setting that had this all set up to help ease the transition into ArchiCAD from AutoCAD.

Feb 5, 08 1:24 pm  · 
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evilplatypus

chicks dig hotkeys

Feb 5, 08 1:28 pm  · 
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Aaron Westre

viva la command line!

Feb 5, 08 2:01 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

come on buttons are faster

you don't have to hit enter i bet if i added up all the time i saved using buttons and not typing two keys and enter i would have 100+ hours saved

if your CADD people still use only command line i would recommend laying them off, especially if you are in a right to work state. ;p

Feb 5, 08 2:08 pm  · 
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THEaquino

I never hit enter....I hit the space bar.

Feb 5, 08 2:13 pm  · 
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garpike

Space bar! Wooo!

Feb 5, 08 2:20 pm  · 
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crowbert

shouldn't that be w00t?

Feb 5, 08 2:26 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

same thing

Feb 5, 08 6:12 pm  · 
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Liebchen

AutoCAD's new floating command line is the best thing since sliced bread....though I disagree with rehiggens: sometimes you need both. When using analytical commands like dist or area, the info disappears from the floating command line as soon as you move the cursor.

Although now you can just click two control points and the distance between them will pop up.

Feb 6, 08 10:26 am  · 
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dierxap

is it me or is there a serious delay in the floating command line..

maybe it is my slow computer or my fast keystroke ! prefer the OG..but then again I have been using ACAD since V9. Good old DOS days and pen plotters still haunt me.


which is also why I like Rhino so much...easy to input and fast.

Feb 6, 08 1:05 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

there is a serious delay allot of places in autocad, even on new powerful machines

i think that is what happens when you use such old code

where as rhino has had new code base a few times

Feb 6, 08 1:33 pm  · 
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simples

c'mon...who here remembers typing "ctrl c" to cancel, and "ddlmodes" to access layers...running cad out of DOS...

are you a dinosaur?! do you remember this:

Feb 6, 08 3:33 pm  · 
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Apurimac

Command line for the goddamn win!

Feb 6, 08 3:36 pm  · 
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rehiggins

i liked hitting the space bar in 14 to make it send the plots faster…

Feb 6, 08 4:30 pm  · 
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crowbert

up down up down left right left right A B B A start

Feb 6, 08 4:40 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

Acad 10-12 on msDOS those were the days. 3ds4, dual boot to 98 with photoshop 3.5

Feb 6, 08 5:08 pm  · 
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snook_dude

What can you expect from a company whos CEO is an advisor to President George Washington Bush. I think her name is Betsy Ross
Von Autodesk.

Feb 6, 08 5:55 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

on his "Science" team no less

her name is Carol Bartz


Carol Bartz is chairman of the board, president and CEO of Autodesk, Inc. ...Appointed to President Bush’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology
Feb 6, 08 6:13 pm  · 
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rehiggins

crowbert: is that from Contra?

Feb 7, 08 12:41 pm  · 
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won and done williams

how can using the command line not be faster than using buttons? you are using both hands.

of course, only using buttons does allow you to sip your coffee while you cad away.

Feb 7, 08 12:54 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

replace with coffee...

Feb 7, 08 1:09 pm  · 
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crowbert

You're on target, but I got it wrong. its the Konami.

Also mid-schoolers:

Feb 7, 08 1:20 pm  · 
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FOG Lite

Leroy!

Feb 7, 08 1:44 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

sip your coffee only?

it is more inputs either way and that equals time

soon we will have a thought input device, monkeys do

Feb 7, 08 3:58 pm  · 
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won and done williams

dammson, i wear that contraption only after noon while cadding.

Feb 7, 08 4:05 pm  · 
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evilplatypus

crowbert - its up up down down left right left right baba select select start!

Feb 8, 08 2:38 pm  · 
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Goletian

command line!

not only both hands, but using your thumb and multiple fingers on your left hand. I do a balance between buttons and the command line anyways.

But when I do command line it's instant, because I don't need to leave the model space and I DON'T NEED MY EYES to leave the model space either.

Keys are buttons, for your other hand.

Feb 10, 08 5:19 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

what about keypads, anybody use those?

Feb 11, 08 10:23 am  · 
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nb072

the worse thing about learning microstation was not being able to type in commands like in autocad and instead push buttongs...it took me twice as long to do everything because i could thus use only one hand instead of two. otherwise microstation is a fine piece of software. i guess you can somehow get microstation to recogize typed commands too but i never got around to figuring it out.

Feb 11, 08 12:33 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

what about pedals? anybody make those?

Feb 11, 08 4:19 pm  · 
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Antisthenes

that would be tight - pedals, 4 limbs better than 2

Feb 11, 08 5:02 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

evilplatypus, it's up up down down left right left right B A Select Start

Feb 11, 08 10:56 pm  · 
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Oysters and Trifle

Okay. I'm an AutoCAD monkey, and I'm more of a typer than a button pusher to be honest. I can type Shakespeare in my sleep. But with other programs I look for the buttons.

With AutoCAD, it's:
tap tap tap click click
tap tap tap click click
tap tap tap click click
tap tap.

With another program (cough/sketchup/cough) it's:
button click click click ... click click spin spin sugar
button click click click ... click click spin spin sugar.
I'm so thoroughly engrossed that my other hand is no longer on the keyboard (ah, ah, ah, get your mind out of the gutter.) by the time I'm ready for the next command.

If the CAD or BIM companies want to make it work like magic, they'd make it so I'm not doing click click click or tap tap tap, but cha cha cha (which would mean the principal could finally do it, which would mean the death of the CAD monkey, RIP, finally).

Feb 12, 08 2:01 am  · 
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Antisthenes

at one point i was so anti keyboard i used on-screen-keyboard (with auto word complete) for everything

Feb 12, 08 11:11 am  · 
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THEaquino

I've found the constant hitting of the space bar after two letters has really messed up my typing. I've st art ed typ ing like th is...

Feb 12, 08 11:31 am  · 
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won and done williams

i'm working on a laser retina reader where the crosshairs will simply follow my eye where i want it to go. it's in beta right now.

Feb 12, 08 2:07 pm  · 
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