This has been an ongoing discussion, and I was wondering what experiences any of you have had, relative to integrating concpetual tools (i.e. Maya, Rhino, SketchUp, etc.) w/ BIM related tools (Revit, Bentley).
Can conceptual design be done successfully in a BIM package or is it too rigid? Is it beneficial in the end product/schedule/staffing, etc.?
Specifically, what platforms have you found to be, or had success with merging (i.e. Rhino into Revit). Efficient/inefficient from a team standpoint?
For any of you in an office - are you focusing your efforts to one platform, or are you designing in one, and shifting to production in another? I know SHoP has gotten some press recently for using BIM as a strategy for cost saving, but was curious to know if they still conceptualized elsewhere.
Would love to hear anyone's opinions or experiences.
I just started working in an office that is pushing for the use of Microstation Triforma exclusively when it comes to production/delivery. It has a built in set of nurbs surface modeling tools for conceptual stuff though the interface is clunky for free-form modeling (imo) and the tools are limited esp. when compared to Rhino's. I prefer to use Rhino early on in the design process (at least by a few of us) for conceptual modeling and early schematic design. Then the geometry can be transfered into Triforma for further development (BIM, etc)
Triforma can import Rhino files nearly flawlessly using the STEP file format as it preserves all the nurbs geometry and doesn't convert surfaces to meshes. There are little glitches when the craftsmanship is shoddy, but if the model is built cleanly (aligned edges, correct normals, etc) then it will work just fine. Rhino 4 also imports DGN (Microstation's native file format) directly.
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Concept Design & BIM Integration
This has been an ongoing discussion, and I was wondering what experiences any of you have had, relative to integrating concpetual tools (i.e. Maya, Rhino, SketchUp, etc.) w/ BIM related tools (Revit, Bentley).
Can conceptual design be done successfully in a BIM package or is it too rigid? Is it beneficial in the end product/schedule/staffing, etc.?
Specifically, what platforms have you found to be, or had success with merging (i.e. Rhino into Revit). Efficient/inefficient from a team standpoint?
For any of you in an office - are you focusing your efforts to one platform, or are you designing in one, and shifting to production in another? I know SHoP has gotten some press recently for using BIM as a strategy for cost saving, but was curious to know if they still conceptualized elsewhere.
Would love to hear anyone's opinions or experiences.
I just started working in an office that is pushing for the use of Microstation Triforma exclusively when it comes to production/delivery. It has a built in set of nurbs surface modeling tools for conceptual stuff though the interface is clunky for free-form modeling (imo) and the tools are limited esp. when compared to Rhino's. I prefer to use Rhino early on in the design process (at least by a few of us) for conceptual modeling and early schematic design. Then the geometry can be transfered into Triforma for further development (BIM, etc)
Triforma can import Rhino files nearly flawlessly using the STEP file format as it preserves all the nurbs geometry and doesn't convert surfaces to meshes. There are little glitches when the craftsmanship is shoddy, but if the model is built cleanly (aligned edges, correct normals, etc) then it will work just fine. Rhino 4 also imports DGN (Microstation's native file format) directly.
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