i thought it would move pretty quickly since prob 50% of its accepted students will choose some other school in the end. But i think they have factored in the amount of ppl who turn down offers in their acceptances, say they send out 80-90 acceptances and expect to end up with 50-60 ppl actually going there... i THINK thats how it works... i know, wait lists sound useless in this scenario
@leif.... congrats!! which program? how much is the tuition? is this the financial aid package?? sorry for all the questions.. i'm really happy for you :)
You mentioned a bunch of people waitlisted at gradcafe, I counted 5 (including myself) wait listed at cornell for M ARCH I for the fall of 2013. And obviously plus who ever doesn't post their results.
How bad is the wait? By when do you really find out?
I know it is but I was expecting some money at least. I emailed them about a possible advanced standing, so I guess it depends on that. Thanks for you input =]
Do international students get there admits later? I have applied to Uni of Washington, Berkley, Sci-Arc, USC, ASU, Uni of Michigan(Urban Design), GSAPP,Cal Poly Pomona
I have not heard back from any university while i saw some updates on grad cafe & archinect about people hearing form USC, GSAPP, ASU, Uni of Michigan (Urban Design)
International students might get later notifications but you should call them. ASU came out mid feb, so it was a while ago. Pomona should be coming out this week. Good luck, hope it works out =]
When you come back from the visit to USC, please share your opinion. I'm an international and I can't do it by myself. There're only 3 days before their notification deadline.
Sure. ill report back when I go.
@sensation
@rrnkenshin... its not that great..i'm an undergrad, so i don't know the exact details.. i just know that my friends who are graduates are not too satisfied with the program.. and by the way the graduate program is 90% asians. (no disrespect) and majority of them are from china
are you still there now? I need someone to show me around. or when is a good time to check out the school this week? i want to see the studios when it's full of people. and although I am asian myself, im disappointed if that most of them are asians from china. i would like a diverse class as possible. maybe its fate that i should go to GSAPP....
@batman... yes, i'm a 5th year undergraduate. you should come on Weds or Fri during 2-6pm (studio hours).. the graduates may stay longer (they are located on the third floor of Watt Hall and share the floor with 5th year undergraduates).. Thursday I will be flying out to NYC to spy on MS.AAD students
Got an email from USC, that says I'm eligible for admission to the M.Arch.1. They told me my application is not complete, and I have to send BS for i20. Does that mean that I haven't received any financial aid?
The email is from graduate admission office, not architecture school!
Please help me out.... Should I wait for an email from architecture school?
So is it possible for me to receive grants??? ..On February 8th, I turned in my FAFSA as an independent. I expect my financial aid package from GSAPP early April. As of now, I just have scholarships given to me by GSAPP..... hopefully I can get grants also.. does anybody know what to expect in a financial aid package? Does it include grants, besides loans?
Info about AP and $$$ comes in the PDF letter signed by the Chair, not in the email from Speranza. I sent an email to ask for info about AP and $$$ and Speranza respond with that PDF copy of the official version which will come by mail "within a few weeks".
@gg_r
I've got 1 semester AP too, that makes the program 3 years long, not 2,5 years as you say, am I correct? Without the AP, it's 3,5 years (7 semesters).
It's a bit weird that they give only 1 semester AP...And that means we start in the Spring 2014 semester...
@New ARch
It was mentioned in the letter from the Dean of School of Architecture. I hope that your problem is just a paperwork issue, and you'll get your $$$.
Was going to call Cornell now, does it literally need to be a checking/savings account statement with 244K? that make no sense what so ever! Do not think I will be able to prove that by April 30th! and Cornell is my number one choice at this point. I hope I hear back soon from some other schools since I thought you have to prove one year for most.
Does anyone else have any advice for this situation @international students.
Ya I just called Cornell and they want enough for all 3.5 years... $244K. It makes no sense i don't know anyone who has that liquid in an account and not invested. Waiting on Canadian schools: UBC and University of Toronto as well as GSD and UPEnn to see what they ask for.
So for those who might be in the same position...I just got off the phone with Clemson and it turns out I was accepted to their MArch + Health program, however for some reason I never received an email. I guess decisions were March 1st too....did anyone else have this problem? I'm so glad I called!
Also, what are the realisitic chances at this point of being accepted to the GSD?..It's one of two I'm still waiting on still and I have so many other offers that I'm really kind of over waiting for them....
Found out I am wait listed at UVA (Path B). Anyone have an experience with the admit process and if the wait list is worth waiting around for? I saw some earlier comments about Cornell and the difficulty to get off the wait list. I'm going to call and inquire but I'm wondering if anyone around here has any personal experience. Thanks!
I guess I am a little late to the party, and a little less ambitious with my Ivy applications, but I figure some people reading this might be just like me and curious about these schools.
In: UMinn (received email march 6th)
Waitlist: Cornell (as of this morning)
Still waiting on: UBC, Dal BEDS, UofT
Oh and I am a Canadian applying for 3 years masters and the BEDS.
$244,000 is completely ridiculous. Nobody has that cash. You would have to get loans in advance for all three years, get the money in your account, and then send that info to them?? That is not even possible to get a student loan for that amount, because you could just drop out and run with 1/4 million dollars!! Impossible.
On the other hand, that is probably too much to pay for school anyway, even if it is 3.5 years. That is serious debt that will be hard to pay off. I would try to find GSD, YSOA, or another school that is slightly less expensive, and offers more financial aid apparently!
@leif. Congrats on $40,000. That is incredible. I called about the Teir 2 grant, they said that it depends on many factors if you can get it, not just your parents info. I think it is because I have been a practicing architect for 6 years, so they expect me to have saved money or something... Either way they are still giving me $17,000 per year, and I would like to do the split. Should end up costing a little less that $100,000 with living expenses for 2 years. Not bad. I will take that. If I don't do the split, then it would be probably only about $85,000, but why would I not do the split to basically get an extra semester (for only $1,000) to work on my thesis...
Note: McGill would be about $55,000 for 1 year. (McGill has no money to give) So the price is the same per year, just different amounts of debt because of the longevity of the program.
@mtt9999 Will you be attending the Openhouse? Since I attended the one in November I may just go to the reception in NY while I'm there for GSAPP's Openhouse. I didn't get to visit Columbia last Fall due to Sandy and would like to hear from students about the CCCP Program even though they offered me no money. So right now it looks likely I will be studying with you this Fall.
^ I'm still waiting to hear from GSD. (Next to gsapp, cornell, and berkeley)
In Cornell's case they already sent out a bunch of acceptances, rejections, and waitlists. In fact they started sending out another round of acceptances today, so its still a mystery what I'll get.
As for GSD, I believe its a rejection cause they havent send out those yet, and they already sent a lot of admits.
Yes, I am going to open house, but not the event in New York. Too bad I guess. What program are you going to be studying, I forgot, MDesS? Which concentration? Where are you coming from again?
I'm still waiting on GSD...but again expecting it to be a no considering a lot of people have heard already. Excited for everyone that did get an admit, and at the same time disappointed in the GSD for stringing this along for too long.. at least Yale had the decency to do it all at once. Time to move on and be excited for all of the other offers!
2013 M.Arch Applicants, Commiserate Here!
@eternalized
i thought it would move pretty quickly since prob 50% of its accepted students will choose some other school in the end. But i think they have factored in the amount of ppl who turn down offers in their acceptances, say they send out 80-90 acceptances and expect to end up with 50-60 ppl actually going there... i THINK thats how it works... i know, wait lists sound useless in this scenario
damn i missed the 1000th post :(
there goes my chances
40K from the GSD!!! still crying!
@Leif
Congrats!! That is awesome =] I'm assuming that is your first choice??
@leif.... congrats!! which program? how much is the tuition? is this the financial aid package?? sorry for all the questions.. i'm really happy for you :)
Well, shit.
Waitlisted at Cornell. Pretty much assuming I will never get off that list.
So far:
IN: IIT Chicago (2 yr Advanced Standing), WUSTL (2+), Syracuse (2.5 yr),
Waitlisted: Cornell
Waiting: Pratt
:((((
How long does it usually take for one to find out if you make it off the list or not?
Being presumptious here.
@gg_r
how did u get 2.5 at Syracuse? Did you ask for AP or are you a B.Arch?
I got a letter in the mail that said they offered me Advanced Standing of one semester plus 10K. I have an architecture background.
I heard that there were interviews for MIT MArch 1. So does anyone know if there are interviews for MIT SMArchS ?
Oh okay. I didn't get AP or any $$! Is it still worth going?? I got like a research internship or something
@eternalized
You mentioned a bunch of people waitlisted at gradcafe, I counted 5 (including myself) wait listed at cornell for M ARCH I for the fall of 2013. And obviously plus who ever doesn't post their results.
How bad is the wait? By when do you really find out?
@Tanuja
Syracuse is still a really good school, I really can't tell you what to do... But I have heard they have good assistanships along with stipends.
I wouldn't know, sorry if i'm not of much help!
@gg_r
I know it is but I was expecting some money at least. I emailed them about a possible advanced standing, so I guess it depends on that. Thanks for you input =]
still nothing from Cornell. I emailed them, will see what they have to say tomorrow I guess.
Congrats to everyone who got there admits
Do international students get there admits later? I have applied to Uni of Washington, Berkley, Sci-Arc, USC, ASU, Uni of Michigan(Urban Design), GSAPP,Cal Poly Pomona
I have not heard back from any university while i saw some updates on grad cafe & archinect about people hearing form USC, GSAPP, ASU, Uni of Michigan (Urban Design)
Its crazy not even heard back from one of them...
@nisha
International students might get later notifications but you should call them. ASU came out mid feb, so it was a while ago. Pomona should be coming out this week. Good luck, hope it works out =]
@rrnkenshin
@batman
When you come back from the visit to USC, please share your opinion. I'm an international and I can't do it by myself. There're only 3 days before their notification deadline.
Sure. ill report back when I go.
@sensation
@rrnkenshin... its not that great..i'm an undergrad, so i don't know the exact details.. i just know that my friends who are graduates are not too satisfied with the program.. and by the way the graduate program is 90% asians. (no disrespect) and majority of them are from china
are you still there now? I need someone to show me around. or when is a good time to check out the school this week? i want to see the studios when it's full of people. and although I am asian myself, im disappointed if that most of them are asians from china. i would like a diverse class as possible. maybe its fate that i should go to GSAPP....
@batman... yes, i'm a 5th year undergraduate. you should come on Weds or Fri during 2-6pm (studio hours).. the graduates may stay longer (they are located on the third floor of Watt Hall and share the floor with 5th year undergraduates).. Thursday I will be flying out to NYC to spy on MS.AAD students
@Leif Estrada
Congrats!! Please share with us what program where you applying and if all of those $$ are Tier grants (or maybe a combination of loans + grants).
Get out and celebrate!
Got an email from USC, that says I'm eligible for admission to the M.Arch.1. They told me my application is not complete, and I have to send BS for i20. Does that mean that I haven't received any financial aid?
The email is from graduate admission office, not architecture school!
Please help me out.... Should I wait for an email from architecture school?
So is it possible for me to receive grants??? ..On February 8th, I turned in my FAFSA as an independent. I expect my financial aid package from GSAPP early April. As of now, I just have scholarships given to me by GSAPP..... hopefully I can get grants also.. does anybody know what to expect in a financial aid package? Does it include grants, besides loans?
Made a mistake, it is from architecture school.....
@rrnkenshin
How did you find out that you are given scholarship?
@Tanuja
Info about AP and $$$ comes in the PDF letter signed by the Chair, not in the email from Speranza. I sent an email to ask for info about AP and $$$ and Speranza respond with that PDF copy of the official version which will come by mail "within a few weeks".
@gg_r
I've got 1 semester AP too, that makes the program 3 years long, not 2,5 years as you say, am I correct? Without the AP, it's 3,5 years (7 semesters).
It's a bit weird that they give only 1 semester AP...And that means we start in the Spring 2014 semester...
@New ARch
It was mentioned in the letter from the Dean of School of Architecture. I hope that your problem is just a paperwork issue, and you'll get your $$$.
@batman
I look forward to hearing from you man!!!
Just find out there are several people who got interviews with MIT SMArchS. I`m soooooo sad right now.
@rrnkenshin
Thank you:) I'm gonna call them to find out what is the problem.
Did you send the affidavit of financial support before getting the admission letter?
@New ARch
Yes, I scanned and sent them by email when submitting my application.
Just got an email from Cornell. Waitlisted as well.
Congrats to all of the admits! Is anyone attending Berkeley's open house in April?
Also, is anyone waiting on Clemson? :)
@helenakeys
So u choose Cornell instead of Yale??? Could u give some reason?
OR maybe Cornell has better program?
@helenakeys
Was going to call Cornell now, does it literally need to be a checking/savings account statement with 244K? that make no sense what so ever! Do not think I will be able to prove that by April 30th! and Cornell is my number one choice at this point. I hope I hear back soon from some other schools since I thought you have to prove one year for most.
Does anyone else have any advice for this situation @international students.
@jacobcohen
I got the March2 program of Cornell, so the total amount is around 90k. sounds luckier than you guys.
But I think covering one year is way enough.
@xdfwx
Ya I just called Cornell and they want enough for all 3.5 years... $244K. It makes no sense i don't know anyone who has that liquid in an account and not invested. Waiting on Canadian schools: UBC and University of Toronto as well as GSD and UPEnn to see what they ask for.
So for those who might be in the same position...I just got off the phone with Clemson and it turns out I was accepted to their MArch + Health program, however for some reason I never received an email. I guess decisions were March 1st too....did anyone else have this problem? I'm so glad I called!
Also, what are the realisitic chances at this point of being accepted to the GSD?..It's one of two I'm still waiting on still and I have so many other offers that I'm really kind of over waiting for them....
@jacobcohen
Really insane to ask for that much....
Also desperate for GSD&MIT, which seems hopeless...
Found out I am wait listed at UVA (Path B). Anyone have an experience with the admit process and if the wait list is worth waiting around for? I saw some earlier comments about Cornell and the difficulty to get off the wait list. I'm going to call and inquire but I'm wondering if anyone around here has any personal experience. Thanks!
@ emg Im going to the open house for Berkeley, are you going too?
Im pretty torn between oregon and berkeley...I think the only way I can decide is to go check them out.
@Philip Panzarella
Could you please share why you are "torn" between these two schools. UC Berkeley sounds like a no brainer to me...
@xdfwx
i was just saying i will eventually have to fill out the same financial forms.
Im most likely going to Yale, but I want to hear back from all schools first.
this weekend is crunch time on financials and decisions... that is.. if we hear all results
I guess I am a little late to the party, and a little less ambitious with my Ivy applications, but I figure some people reading this might be just like me and curious about these schools.
In: UMinn (received email march 6th)
Waitlist: Cornell (as of this morning)
Still waiting on: UBC, Dal BEDS, UofT
Oh and I am a Canadian applying for 3 years masters and the BEDS.
$244,000 is completely ridiculous. Nobody has that cash. You would have to get loans in advance for all three years, get the money in your account, and then send that info to them?? That is not even possible to get a student loan for that amount, because you could just drop out and run with 1/4 million dollars!! Impossible.
On the other hand, that is probably too much to pay for school anyway, even if it is 3.5 years. That is serious debt that will be hard to pay off. I would try to find GSD, YSOA, or another school that is slightly less expensive, and offers more financial aid apparently!
@leif. Congrats on $40,000. That is incredible. I called about the Teir 2 grant, they said that it depends on many factors if you can get it, not just your parents info. I think it is because I have been a practicing architect for 6 years, so they expect me to have saved money or something... Either way they are still giving me $17,000 per year, and I would like to do the split. Should end up costing a little less that $100,000 with living expenses for 2 years. Not bad. I will take that. If I don't do the split, then it would be probably only about $85,000, but why would I not do the split to basically get an extra semester (for only $1,000) to work on my thesis...
Note: McGill would be about $55,000 for 1 year. (McGill has no money to give) So the price is the same per year, just different amounts of debt because of the longevity of the program.
@mtt9999 Will you be attending the Openhouse? Since I attended the one in November I may just go to the reception in NY while I'm there for GSAPP's Openhouse. I didn't get to visit Columbia last Fall due to Sandy and would like to hear from students about the CCCP Program even though they offered me no money. So right now it looks likely I will be studying with you this Fall.
Who else is still waiting for the GSD's decision letter? I haven't noticed any rejections or waitlists yet. Would it be unwise to call?
^ I'm still waiting to hear from GSD. (Next to gsapp, cornell, and berkeley)
In Cornell's case they already sent out a bunch of acceptances, rejections, and waitlists. In fact they started sending out another round of acceptances today, so its still a mystery what I'll get.
As for GSD, I believe its a rejection cause they havent send out those yet, and they already sent a lot of admits.
@lrenechln
Yes, I am going to open house, but not the event in New York. Too bad I guess. What program are you going to be studying, I forgot, MDesS? Which concentration? Where are you coming from again?
Looks like Princeton is calling applicants according to gradcafe.
@Bazookatooth
I'm still waiting on GSD...but again expecting it to be a no considering a lot of people have heard already. Excited for everyone that did get an admit, and at the same time disappointed in the GSD for stringing this along for too long.. at least Yale had the decency to do it all at once. Time to move on and be excited for all of the other offers!
Does anyone know if Berkeley has finished notifying people of acceptances?
@leif_estrada, your portfolio is excellent, and you deserve that money. Seriously inspirational. Rock on!
i was waitlisted, but is cornell requiring every accepted applicant to show proof of their ability to pay for the program?
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