With all the interest in genicide museums lately, I was wondering who recently has been designing and building museums for the following...
anyone...
I wonder why not:
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1934-39) 13,000,000 (the purges)
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915) 1,200,000
Armenians Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1971) vs Bangladesh 500,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Bangladesh, 1970-1971) 300,000
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-96) 180,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79)
? Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (vietnamese civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000
well, since news reports have been saying that russians are beginning to think that stalin was maybe not so bad, i don't expect to be seeing one there.
i didn't know there was a great deal of interest in genocide museums.
i have been to hiroshima museum made to commemorate killing (of mostly elementary school kids) in same city, and found that very depressing though also very moving. however i would not be quite inclined to go to genocide memorial unless in place where it occured. maybe that is perverse? still that means political climate needs to be receptive and for most of above that is not the case. hence not so much going on...not surprising...or is it?
Mao didn't intentionally kill all those people from what i understand, which makes his deserved position at head of the genocide list slightly humorous to me.
"Mao was only 30% wrong and 70% right."
-Official Chinese Communist Party line
apparently the shrine where the war criminals are has a kind of museum to japanese war dead that is not politically correct (can you say revisionist history)?, but foreginers seldom go there cuz its where the japanese nationalists hang out, and they wanna beat shite out of us (no joke).
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With all the interest in genicide museums lately, I was wondering who recently has been designing and building museums for the following...
anyone...
I wonder why not:
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1934-39) 13,000,000 (the purges)
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915) 1,200,000
Armenians Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1971) vs Bangladesh 500,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Bangladesh, 1970-1971) 300,000
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-96) 180,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79)
? Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (vietnamese civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000
well, since news reports have been saying that russians are beginning to think that stalin was maybe not so bad, i don't expect to be seeing one there.
By precedent, does one have to be there?
genocide
genocide
There's your answer to further Genicide Museums... "No Interest".
sometimes spelling counts.
i didn't know there was a great deal of interest in genocide museums.
i have been to hiroshima museum made to commemorate killing (of mostly elementary school kids) in same city, and found that very depressing though also very moving. however i would not be quite inclined to go to genocide memorial unless in place where it occured. maybe that is perverse? still that means political climate needs to be receptive and for most of above that is not the case. hence not so much going on...not surprising...or is it?
Sometimes it doesn't the way you think it should.
What is the motivation for the interest or lack of interest?
Mao didn't intentionally kill all those people from what i understand, which makes his deserved position at head of the genocide list slightly humorous to me.
"Mao was only 30% wrong and 70% right."
-Official Chinese Communist Party line
Done.
Mao gets 70% of the monument for his transgressions the other 30% will be for the genicidians.
cf, that's not even close to being an English word.
Why is Hitler off that list? Too cliche?
there are holocaust museums/memorials, apurimac. i think he was addressing events that had not been recognized with a built thing.
oh, well, there's a museum in Nanjing about the Japanese and their deeds there if that helps the above discussion
What is the motivation for the interest or lack of interest?
aren't their museums/memorials for kamikaze airplane "pilots" in japan?
there may be.
apparently the shrine where the war criminals are has a kind of museum to japanese war dead that is not politically correct (can you say revisionist history)?, but foreginers seldom go there cuz its where the japanese nationalists hang out, and they wanna beat shite out of us (no joke).
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