that living in the woods sounds like a good idea though. Thanks for the idea fro, I may be taking a year off of college at some point because im feelin' pretty burned out myself.
look into moving over to the client side (yes -- I know -- that seems mysteriously similar to the "dark side")
anyway, I spent a good part of my career working on the client side -- the most important thing I learned was that if you're well positioned there, you have much greater influence over the architecture than you often have in an architectural office.
i've been recently thinking of moving to the cm side..
just to make two years of architecture salary in one year...
that way i could take a bunch of time off in a year or two.
think of it this way..a guy cleaning up on the site that i visit
..literally sweeping..makes over 100k..that's not including
overtime..bonuses..healthcare...
figured i could also use the extra money and the contacts
to start a small line of furniture to sell in and around nyc
as well.
i think at the very least you should take a vacation and write
out a list of pros and cons of leaving the profession and also
a list of possible spinoffs or complete alternatives...maybe
a dateline trying to figure out what it would take to change
etc.
Go work for a contractor. I make more money than I did at a firm, don't work overtime, people are nicer, it's way more casual & less pretentious, and I'm learning a lot about the business/ construction side- the things they don't teach you in school, but are pertinent to the industry.
It's a nice break- plus, it's great to be on the other side of value engineering for once!
i would have to go with dissappearing in the woods for a while. i have concidered this a number of times but i can never seem to make it happen since the responsibility thing comes into play.
-ive always felt that if i did this that i woudl come out of the woods emerged a new man ready to conquer the world. mmmuuuuhhhahaha
amazing how that idea resonates here - somebody of random relevance or importance (airplane neighbour who wouldn't take headphones for an answer) told me that, among other things, burnout is a great time to 'look for margaritaville'.
Funny how I just remembered that guy - probably still in Spain, years older
figure out what part of architecture (if any) made you happy. We you happy building models, dealing with clients, writing spec, etc... If you can pinpoint what you were doing when you were happiest at work, try to find alternative career paths that you will be doing more of this thin.
I realized that I was always happiest when I was in the shop building models. I am now infront of a computer all day doing AutoCad..not too fun for me. I would probably be happier builidng models
what i would really do if i was feed up w/ architecture
-i would open up a furniture shop and build custom furniture
-tables, chairs, bookshelves, overhead compartments, couches, picture frames, random pieces of odd furniture...currently im trying to design/build a brisole-plant holder thingy for my apt.
-or mabe whore myself out to a bunch of cool thesis students and build some sick ass models...now all the thesis students here will now try to steer me away from the arch. profession...not going to happen
keep imagining the job in architecture that you want. pretend that you're looking for that job, but really just procrastinate and keep doing what you've been doing. the pipe dream makes you feel like there's still possibility/potential.
CAD for four hours straight while listening to a bunch of music that makes you weep. It's cleansing, and tomorrow you'll be less likely to throttle the spoiled rich client sitting across the table from you.
OK, seriously: if I get sick of my current gig, I'm going into the construction management side of things for awhile. The comments above reflect why, also, I get giddy whenever I'm on a job site. That's my favorite part of the job.
I was pretty happy at my last job. I recently changed jobs and was busy, now I just sit at my computer with no work to do. While listening to podcasts and reading messages can be fun for an hour.
Six hours of unbillable time is just killing me!
Call me old school, but I actually enjoy working at 100mph!
Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to try and find therapy on line, maybe I'll figure out how to find my next job.
Burnout
What do you do when you're pretty much done with Architecture?
maybe move on to a related field i guess
what do u feel like doin?
live outside in the woods for a few years, your appreciation will return....
I used to love what I did, Project Manager level.
What are some related jobs I could look into?
just an fyi. this is not me using a different name.
oh you meant as a profession, I thought you meant as a concept.
Figure out what it was you loved about it, and what changed to make it not work. More design? More management? we need more info
the only thing you can do.....puke and rally!
that living in the woods sounds like a good idea though. Thanks for the idea fro, I may be taking a year off of college at some point because im feelin' pretty burned out myself.
look into moving over to the client side (yes -- I know -- that seems mysteriously similar to the "dark side")
anyway, I spent a good part of my career working on the client side -- the most important thing I learned was that if you're well positioned there, you have much greater influence over the architecture than you often have in an architectural office.
i've been recently thinking of moving to the cm side..
just to make two years of architecture salary in one year...
that way i could take a bunch of time off in a year or two.
think of it this way..a guy cleaning up on the site that i visit
..literally sweeping..makes over 100k..that's not including
overtime..bonuses..healthcare...
figured i could also use the extra money and the contacts
to start a small line of furniture to sell in and around nyc
as well.
i think at the very least you should take a vacation and write
out a list of pros and cons of leaving the profession and also
a list of possible spinoffs or complete alternatives...maybe
a dateline trying to figure out what it would take to change
etc.
you could always be a male model. just watch out for freak gasoline fight accidents
Go work for a contractor. I make more money than I did at a firm, don't work overtime, people are nicer, it's way more casual & less pretentious, and I'm learning a lot about the business/ construction side- the things they don't teach you in school, but are pertinent to the industry.
It's a nice break- plus, it's great to be on the other side of value engineering for once!
Good luck!
change cities or countries...fall in love with it again
i would have to go with dissappearing in the woods for a while. i have concidered this a number of times but i can never seem to make it happen since the responsibility thing comes into play.
-ive always felt that if i did this that i woudl come out of the woods emerged a new man ready to conquer the world. mmmuuuuhhhahaha
Don't Drink, go to bed early and see if you wake up with a more positive outlook tomorrow.
amazing how that idea resonates here - somebody of random relevance or importance (airplane neighbour who wouldn't take headphones for an answer) told me that, among other things, burnout is a great time to 'look for margaritaville'.
Funny how I just remembered that guy - probably still in Spain, years older
blueink
figure out what part of architecture (if any) made you happy. We you happy building models, dealing with clients, writing spec, etc... If you can pinpoint what you were doing when you were happiest at work, try to find alternative career paths that you will be doing more of this thin.
I realized that I was always happiest when I was in the shop building models. I am now infront of a computer all day doing AutoCad..not too fun for me. I would probably be happier builidng models
Go into real estate/development. Take what you know and fight the good fight from that side. And make a helluva lot of money...
or make less money, go into politics, and stillfight the good fight -- that is if you have the stomach for it...
what i would really do if i was feed up w/ architecture
-i would open up a furniture shop and build custom furniture
-tables, chairs, bookshelves, overhead compartments, couches, picture frames, random pieces of odd furniture...currently im trying to design/build a brisole-plant holder thingy for my apt.
-or mabe whore myself out to a bunch of cool thesis students and build some sick ass models...now all the thesis students here will now try to steer me away from the arch. profession...not going to happen
keep imagining the job in architecture that you want. pretend that you're looking for that job, but really just procrastinate and keep doing what you've been doing. the pipe dream makes you feel like there's still possibility/potential.
[that's what i do, anyway.]
CAD for four hours straight while listening to a bunch of music that makes you weep. It's cleansing, and tomorrow you'll be less likely to throttle the spoiled rich client sitting across the table from you.
OK, seriously: if I get sick of my current gig, I'm going into the construction management side of things for awhile. The comments above reflect why, also, I get giddy whenever I'm on a job site. That's my favorite part of the job.
crochet.
there's nothing like a good hand-made sweater.
I heard you can make millions inventing blankets.
mdler is (hopefully) gonna be building models for stop-motion animation in the near future
I was pretty happy at my last job. I recently changed jobs and was busy, now I just sit at my computer with no work to do. While listening to podcasts and reading messages can be fun for an hour.
Six hours of unbillable time is just killing me!
Call me old school, but I actually enjoy working at 100mph!
Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to try and find therapy on line, maybe I'll figure out how to find my next job.
blue....learn bim....or bum...or sumthing..Don't waste your time grow....there is a heck of alot to learn....at your finger tips.
snooker, or anyone
What is bim?
new method of computer drawing....
building intelligence management
over rated and limiting if you ask me.
and VERY non interoperable
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