Ok so I have finally talked the boss into revamping the center's website, woohoo. BUT now he wants a series of quality examples to look at before he decides on/approves a paticular direction...
So guys what are all of your favorite websites for for any kind of design-eque firm/group.
Ill start off with:
plot.dk [ jds.dk or big.dk ]
lateral architecture
thomas phifer
olsen sunberg
remember this is as much about format as cool shit but hey no complains about more cool shit
don't get me wrong, I think Flash is a great tool. my problem is that Flash, as a medium, seems to be instantly recognizable. 'oh, another Flash website'. It has distinct characteristics which make it obviously recognizable as Flash. the problem is that after a while most websites done with Flash start to look pretty much the same, in terms of general aesthetic.
this baffles me because in most other forms of artistic media, specifically traditional media, ie paint, pencil, charcoal, clay the artist's work is much more distinguishable and for lack of a better word--different.
i don't know the software personally. Is it that restrictive of an application that it's difficult to generate an original output? Everything looks so clean and polished in Flash, which is fine, but what if i want something a little more rugged, something fuzzy and gritty? and i bet this could be done and has been done....maybe you can point me in the direction of some examples.
i'm just concerned about the danger of submitting to the medium's intended capabilities as a limitation, rather than using the medium (Flash) as a tool for artistic vision.
wangsta, did you check out the old version? It's somewhere there, i think in one of the notebooks. It's really gritty. Aparently he is really well known in Korea. But being a cracker like myself, he can't read any of his own reviews. Yeah, it's Flash. Maybe you were looking at Inclined Inc which is his other company (links off that page) and is more "normative." I think wangsta is talking about the Flash that has that antialiased, vector look that is clearly Flash being Flash. Not using Flash as a tool to do otherthings, but using Flash to do Flash.
Gotta represent my bros yo. Basically it's his online portfolio. If you notice, it's not so much an information site as it is showing his chops. And I guess it worked because he and his wife/partner took October off to travel Europe. That's right...OCTOBER. hahaha He's definately a talented guy.
Flash is only limited by your imagination. Most people repeat what they see and most people don't know how to use it well, so you see the same thing over and over.
HTML is extremely limited. You can build great sites in it, but you cannot escape it's limitations.
They are both simply tools. It's the designer - talent and skill - that make a good site good, not the tool.
1. Don't make me "Click to launch" your website. You're not worth it.
2. Don't make me listen to your shit MP3 collection. Seriously.
3. Don't make me angry. If your interface is so frustrating that I just click "close," your website failed to communicate and is thereby worthless. (ie Xefirotarch)
mm mygoodness. thats an awesome website. as were some others above
yeah - i tend to believe that flash is becoming over-used. freshly grad'd computer design graphics kids with a load of info and half talent putting up things automatically stored in the 4am receptors of their brain undercutting talented designers prices by a quarter what they'd charge.
beauty is they still try.
i agree digitally branded is cool, but once is enough. was expecting better website links within it, but still nice nonetheless
that miralleblah blah one was not as cool, but just as annoying.
postal - yeah, they did a great job, especially loading those huge back ground images. There are so many subtle parts to it - just really polished.
The bg images almost fill my 24" LCD! Just nice work.
Yes yes html is cool and hip, but you realize there's tons of javascript in there - that is to say, not html. But then again you didn't specify html over flash, so my foot's in my mouth. And I'll hit "submit" any way...
But seriously, I do enjoy 2X4, and dot dot dot looks cool too.
I dunno. I can appreciate 2x4s purity and they followed through with the design. However, it's a very trendy approach that I think is already looking very dated (I am guessing this 'style' was new about 2 years ago or so, or at least started showing up EVERYWHERE).
Same goes for dot's site, although I much prefer 2x4s.
They are just a little confusing to me. Show me the pretty pictures. I don't want to try to decipher a 80's text document!
Favorite Architect Websites
Ok so I have finally talked the boss into revamping the center's website, woohoo. BUT now he wants a series of quality examples to look at before he decides on/approves a paticular direction...
So guys what are all of your favorite websites for for any kind of design-eque firm/group.
Ill start off with:
plot.dk [ jds.dk or big.dk ]
lateral architecture
thomas phifer
olsen sunberg
remember this is as much about format as cool shit but hey no complains about more cool shit
[Arte-factory=http://www.arte-factory.com]link[/url]
not the biggest fan of their work, but cool webiste:
asymptote
not architects in the traditional sense but...
tronic
i enjoy the thoroughness of Renzo Piano Building Workshop
http://www.rpbw.com/
don't get me wrong, I think Flash is a great tool. my problem is that Flash, as a medium, seems to be instantly recognizable. 'oh, another Flash website'. It has distinct characteristics which make it obviously recognizable as Flash. the problem is that after a while most websites done with Flash start to look pretty much the same, in terms of general aesthetic.
this baffles me because in most other forms of artistic media, specifically traditional media, ie paint, pencil, charcoal, clay the artist's work is much more distinguishable and for lack of a better word--different.
i don't know the software personally. Is it that restrictive of an application that it's difficult to generate an original output? Everything looks so clean and polished in Flash, which is fine, but what if i want something a little more rugged, something fuzzy and gritty? and i bet this could be done and has been done....maybe you can point me in the direction of some examples.
i'm just concerned about the danger of submitting to the medium's intended capabilities as a limitation, rather than using the medium (Flash) as a tool for artistic vision.
i'm done...just a random thought
and yes, all of the above websites i posted are done in Flash
gritty? check this out. I've plugged it before, but I've known this guy for about 10 years and he does good work. DigitallyBranded
thanks Hassel...exactly the type of thing i was looking for...pretty dope.
I don't get it. Isn't that a flash site too?
wangsta, did you check out the old version? It's somewhere there, i think in one of the notebooks. It's really gritty. Aparently he is really well known in Korea. But being a cracker like myself, he can't read any of his own reviews. Yeah, it's Flash. Maybe you were looking at Inclined Inc which is his other company (links off that page) and is more "normative." I think wangsta is talking about the Flash that has that antialiased, vector look that is clearly Flash being Flash. Not using Flash as a tool to do otherthings, but using Flash to do Flash.
i think that digitally branded site is fun ONCE. after that i'd be annoyed.
Gotta represent my bros yo. Basically it's his online portfolio. If you notice, it's not so much an information site as it is showing his chops. And I guess it worked because he and his wife/partner took October off to travel Europe. That's right...OCTOBER. hahaha He's definately a talented guy.
as exciting as it is annoying
http://www.mirallestagliabue.com/
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exciting because you have no idea what's going on when you try to navigate? wheeeeeee!
Steven good to see you agian. I have too plug a New Blog site
Rqtect.com and Rqtecture.com
Flash is only limited by your imagination. Most people repeat what they see and most people don't know how to use it well, so you see the same thing over and over.
HTML is extremely limited. You can build great sites in it, but you cannot escape it's limitations.
They are both simply tools. It's the designer - talent and skill - that make a good site good, not the tool.
Slick Flash, superb programming
[urk=http://www.tphifer.com]Thomas Phifer[/url]
KPF
Some of the best for 'old' looking:
DriftLab
If HTML is so LAME - why do all the porn sites use it????????????
still cool for HTML.... superbad
Rules:
1. Don't make me "Click to launch" your website. You're not worth it.
2. Don't make me listen to your shit MP3 collection. Seriously.
3. Don't make me angry. If your interface is so frustrating that I just click "close," your website failed to communicate and is thereby worthless. (ie Xefirotarch)
Despite violating rule number 1, this one is hot. http://www.josephkosinski.com/
.mm
mm mygoodness. thats an awesome website. as were some others above
yeah - i tend to believe that flash is becoming over-used. freshly grad'd computer design graphics kids with a load of info and half talent putting up things automatically stored in the 4am receptors of their brain undercutting talented designers prices by a quarter what they'd charge.
beauty is they still try.
i agree digitally branded is cool, but once is enough. was expecting better website links within it, but still nice nonetheless
that miralleblah blah one was not as cool, but just as annoying.
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better yet!
trace,
i saw that KPF site a while ago, and I could not get over how fast it was. I got to get my hands on that code!
this is one of my favorites, from a graphics standpoint...
http://www.360architects.com/
the ace is back http://www.rex-ny.com/
under construction label on your web site? that is so prehistoric.
postal - yeah, they did a great job, especially loading those huge back ground images. There are so many subtle parts to it - just really polished.
The bg images almost fill my 24" LCD! Just nice work.
Nice Spam Rqtect.
I do like the name but your Blog is Lame.
overdesigned websites and flash is so 'nike.' graphic design, i think, is about getting to the point graphically. the future:
www.2x4.org
www.dot-dot-dot.nl
Yes yes html is cool and hip, but you realize there's tons of javascript in there - that is to say, not html. But then again you didn't specify html over flash, so my foot's in my mouth. And I'll hit "submit" any way...
But seriously, I do enjoy 2X4, and dot dot dot looks cool too.
I dunno. I can appreciate 2x4s purity and they followed through with the design. However, it's a very trendy approach that I think is already looking very dated (I am guessing this 'style' was new about 2 years ago or so, or at least started showing up EVERYWHERE).
Same goes for dot's site, although I much prefer 2x4s.
They are just a little confusing to me. Show me the pretty pictures. I don't want to try to decipher a 80's text document!
similar: libeskind
i'm with trace. seems very specific to a time which will soon be past if it's not already.
Flash? .....check this out!
http://www.bionicsystems.de/
hi freeezerburn, 2by4 are doing a great design-job! ...but the website is super-dutch-oldschool
...the future of (architecture)websites? lets see...
http://www.miloby.com/flash/
http://www.mvrdv.nl/_v2/
http://www.elk-design.com/arch2.htm
..I think clear navigation brings us into a better future...
http://www.firstbornmultimedia.com/ (they did the KPF-site)
here a triple-mint-super-luxury-home(page)
http://www.a-cero.com/
you call this über?
here is the minimal version of a web(!)site ...and still for architects
http://www.nlarchitects.nl/
http://www.99ic.com/ ......are these guys architects?
but actuall I think the "future" needs some content and (up-to-date-) information ...(?)
http://www.onearchitecture.nl/
http://www.spacegroup.no/index3.html
http://www.touraine-richmond.com/
http://www.99ic.com/
(by the way, the last six links are from ex-oma duds)
and this site has really a bad navigation and not much information (but cool architecture)
http://www.deluganmeissl.at/home.php
but remember:
http://www.baunetz.de/arch/ranking/home.html
who is leading the top of the pops? has sombody seen a website of them?
please send me the link ...haha...
sorry wrong link above!
....are these guys architects?
http://www.tdstar.nl/
new site designed by Tender Creative
the best /\ :D
http://www.wonder-wall.com/splash/index.html
http://www.abeloner.com
http://www.pcparch.com/
contemax, what is that list all about? ranking wise? popularity, dollars, or what? its pretty interesting.
BEHNISCH Architects ... great site and great work
http://www.behnisch.com/#
i also love Jean Nouvelle's listed above ... very artistic.
u know wat ... why dont u check out the architects links page on my personal website: http://moataz.faissal.googlepages.com/links
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