DubK, I fear this conversation will end up being something you and I would enjoy more in a dark bar with martinis (gin for me, vodka for you).
But to bring it out of the realm of gossip about the cute host, here's an observation:
That scene with the guys joining the pieces of track rail together? On a huge open glaring sun-filled filed, in 110 degree heat (which SuperBeatledud is probably enjoying as we speak), using blowtorches to create a little 3500 degree furnace five feet away from where they stand? I am really, really glad I don't have that job!
That said, I thought the process was very cool, with the pre-heating of the tracks and the sparking of the weld powder (?) to melt down and fill the mold. I love what a perfect example it was of an incredibly advanced technical engineering feat (sliding a field of grass out of a stadium) is still, in the end, accomplished with basically the same technology that has been in use for 4,000 years. Who says architecture isn't, ultimately, a material process?
Also, I found I was getting stressed out when Eisenman was doing his site visit - this is the one hour of TV I watch a week, I don't want it to feel like I'm at work!
Well, while this could devolve into a conversation just between the two of us, it had some really, really cool stuff on it that I thought others might want to discuss. For instance, Danny said that the field in Japan "floats" in and out of the stadium but he didn't explain it. I want to know how it floats.
Also I love how the show manages to capture all the elements of a good architectural drama: fear (being stuck in the cherry picker), angst (argument with the site super), hilarity (dancing), etc. Perhaps this is the reality show about us archi-nerds we've been waiting for.
"I about died when Petey showed up to do a site visit."
WonderK, i've always appreciated your logical insights, but this statement throws me off! Eisenman is a tool and this stadium is nothing near what he has been writing about and waxing poetic for the last 40 years.
hey this means the arizona cardinals(why didnt they change their name??? if they can get a new stadium they should be able to get some new uni's and some new marketing materials) will just suck in a new stadium. you all havent convinced me to spring for cable.
since i didnt see the show what makes this stadium different from any other retractable dome stadium with lotsa corporate sky boxes and not enough room for the players when they run out of bounds?
DB:
is there any architect or designer from past you appreciate a lot?
oh, I appreciate many architects.
Pete:
from the past, I love palladio, I'm doing a book on him,
and piranesi, I like le corbusier, terragni, my book on terragni is finally coming out.
I have many architects.
DB:
and those still active?are there any particular ones you appreciate?
Pete:
I really respect leon krier, although I disagree with him a lot,
we are very good friends,
also moneo...
DB:
any advice for the young?
Pete:
unless you are really committed to being an architect
in the true sense of the word,
its a terrible business and I wouldn't recommend it for anybody,
unless you need to do it for some personal reason,
I would say go into business, go into law, medicine, but don't be an architect.
sameolddoctor, I have to agree with you. "I about died" because Petey is such a tool. With the addition of an architect as a host, I was wondering if they were going to bring out the starchitect angle. I've held an opinion of Petey for many, many years since I was in the first new class at DAAP (which they showed in the montage, BTW) and he gave a lecture there when it opened. He's really quite full of himself. But, while I have to say that I appreciate the way with which he approaches most problems - from an experimental standpoint - I would agree that this stadium is nothing like what we are used to experiencing from him.
Come to think of it, you have to give the guy credit. When someone says, "oh there's a new Eisenmann building going up there", you don't know what you're going to get. The same cannot be said of many starchitects.
I love the shot with the stadium in the background and the cactus in the foreground. At which the host says something like, "Peter Eisenman is a good architect."
I sat in Eisenman's class fall semester, and he is a raging sports fan. He loves baseball and football ... so perhaps the stadium is natural for him? Maybe?
Smokety, it's post-rationalization. The cactus explains the form when really he just came up with it and thought it looked cool, and there it is. Honestly, how many of us have not done a project and post-rationalized it? We are the kings and queens of it! And Petey is one of the Masters.
I was already laughing by the time Danny announced that "Peter Eisenman is a good architect." Like telling an audience devoid of architectural education that he's good is enough to get them up to speed. :o)
I just happened on the show last night. One question, where the hell is that stadium at? Looks like it's 50 miles from the city. In ancient Rome did they build the collesium in the country? Did everyone ride their chariot out there for the gladiator matches? Heck no, so why do we do this today?
Ok, enough soap box for now. Never been an Eisenman fan, but can't say I really like the aesthetics of any modern NFL stadiums. The designers doing baseball stadiums have been far better in my opinion. Still doubt the Cardinals will ever field a Super Bowl team, even with their snake in the desert stadium.
That shot with the little barrel cactus was cute, but it was painfully obvious that they trucked in a little cactus, stuck it in a hole and scattered some sand around it to make it look "natural", got their shot, and left. I wonder how that poor little cactus is surviving now? Its one moment of glory, then forgotten like an old starlet. So sad.
Yeah, A, it did look odd, i'm pretty certain the stadium is very close to central Phoenix, yet it appeared to be in the middle of nowhere. Maybe it was in Indiana?
I just found out from a friend who lives in Pheonix, AZ that the stadium is located in Glendale, which is basically in the middle of nowhere.
The story is as he tells it, that the original plan was to have the project located right in downtown, but for post 9-11/FAA concerns they didn’t want to have such a massive project located so close to the city center. So it got bumped all the way out to Glendale.
oh I remember those days when the defected Saint Louis Cardinals showed up in Tempe at the undersized Sun Devil Stadium....August
120 Degrees on the west side of the stadium ...and a 150 degrees on the east side of the stadium....and of course no BEER.....They left it behind in Saint Louis...... It was a bummer....Scorched and Parched...Watching a Loosing home team!
They said that the Japanese field moved into the stadium on a cushion of air, which says to me hovercraft.... and it is!
I like the show and all, but does it seem like it pitches to the lowest common denominator when explaining things to us, the viewer? I know they have to appeal to the broadest audience in their explanations of complex systems, but maybe they're walking off a razor edge between being condescending and simple/concise?
I didn't think the stadium was that attractive. But, to end on a positive, the roof fabric was amazing...what was that working load limit? Huge.
Wondering what Icon or National Monument they would loose in downtown Phoenix with the exception of Will Bruders Public Library.
I never felt downtown Phoenix had any thing over Glendale or vis versa.
Tonight at 10:00pm - Extreme Engineering, Mega-Tunnel. Danny travels to Malaysia's capital city of Kuala Lumpur to check out the construction of the worlds first-ever duel-purpose tunnel: it will carry both cars and storm water.
Basically fixing Malaysia's traffic and flood problems in one fell swoop—and the amazing thing is, once a year, when Kuala Lumpur gets hit with a massive flood, they will evacuate all the cars and flood the entire tunnel with water.
Very interesting project, however, I think I would have liked to see more about the project and the machinery that makes it, and less about the giant problems they were having. The part at the end where they were making the concrete panels was cool but then again, I'm a sucker for concrete. Mainly I think that some more details about how the tunnel closes off the vehicular traffic in the event of a flood, or how much room the water has underneath, etc. would have been helpful. I'm just saying.
DubK, I totally agree. I really wanted to know more about how the final structure will function as an engineering piece.
Also, yes, the camera guy(s) is the unsung hero. I love how Danny looks appalled at the creepy spaces he's climbing into but you know the camera guy is already in there!
The power of a vacuum....the vacuum erector - amazing!
Tonight, Wednesday, June 28th, at 10:00pm on The Discovery Channel please don't miss another new episode of Extreme Engineering. In tonight's show, entitled Sakhalin Oil & Ice, I travel all the way to both South Korea and Sakhalin Island (a Russian Island located North of Japan) to see the construction of the largest Natural Gas and Oil rig/refinery ever attempted.
About fifteen years ago Russia discovered some of the world's largest sub-sea oil and gas deposits (akin to what exists in the North Sea and the Middles East). Now, with the help of engineers and builders at Samsung Heavy Industries in South Korea, Russia is attempting to mine the resources (and potentially destroy the environment in the process).
That said, please tune-in and tell everyone you know about the show. There will be another, all new episode every week at our regular time slot so please stay tuned.
Another stadium with floating characteristics was Mile High Stadium in Denver. It looked pretty normal in the football configuration, but one whole set of stands (opposite from the press box) was able to float out on a thin cushion of water to allow baseball to be played there without having a rediculously short left field line (a la LA Coliseum when the Dodgers played there before Dodger Stadium opened up in 1962).
Oh, and by the way, this show was also shot in High Definition and looks spectacular on Discovery HD Theater if you know someone who has an HDTV and gets the channel.
Why is there not a show just on architecture? It could be Rem explaining the CCTV and we get to see it go up.
I could care less about a "the Architect" reality show. The last thing we need to do is expose our egos.
No offense, but it is sad that we are getting excited from a show about engineering which just happens to be hosted by an architecture major. There is really no relevence to our profession within this show (i did see the stadium show), its just like all the other programs on Discovery Channel, TLC, and History Channel.
We should be pissed off about this. Why can't architecture be a part of pop culture. I bet half of this country does not know who Wright, Corbu, and Mies are.
Did anybody catch how they get those big oil rigs to the TOP of the giant concrete pillars? I think they sort of passed over that information.
Also it would be great if, during the show, Danny were at liberty to mention what damage all of this could cause to the environment. Alas....
Lastly I would like to mention one thing to moratto: with all due respect, I think I'm quite glad that architecture is not a part of pop culture. After all, pop culture has given us Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and other things I never want to see again so I'm quite content to be a member of an outsider's club.
There is really no relevence to our profession within this show
Totally disagree. You saw Eisenman on that show about the stadium he designed, right?
I just saw an incredibly interesting and fun lecture by Garrett Finney, an architect who did work for NASA on the human habitability issues of the space station, and the work he brought to the design process of a bunch of engineers is essentially what makes it possible for astronauts to do their work in extremely technical and harsh conditions without going totally insane. The role of the architect encompasses structure, coordination, impact, and (for lack of a better word) livability of all sorts of built projects.
If I couldn't find something relevant to my work (which is high end residential, for heaven's sake!) in EE then I'd say I wasn't looking very hard.
But what the Eisenman episode failed to do was clerify the design process. Sure it mention the concept, but it showed the architect as just an asshole who shows up to the building site (maybe he is). I wish it showed Eisenman and HOK collaborating on the design, showing process that lead up to the construction.
I come from a region that does not value design. The role of the architect is misinformed and often marginalized. I think the more exposure of our profession and values the better. Architecture and design can not afford to be an exclusive club anymore. I am not content with that.
moratto you are right - the Az stadium show did read exactly as you describe it. And yes, EE tends to not show how an architect might be involved in/improve large technical engineering projects.
"I wish it showed Eisenman and HOK collaborating on the design, showing process that lead up to the construction."
Yeah, but they were on site for a week and filmed what . . . 25-30 hours of footage to wind up with 45 minutes in the final cut. In order to capture the pivotal moments of a 2 or 3 year design process, how much time would you spend filming mindless meetings and phone calls.* It's just not realistic for a weekly TV show to undertake something like that. I still find the program interesting.
*As an aside, this is what really impresses me about documentaries like "Startup Dot Com". The commitment it takes to follow through on something like that amazes me.
If you want to see the design process on film, see "A Constructive Madness" (about Gehry's designs for Peter Lewis's house) and see what 10 years, lots of fish-like forms, and a couple million dollars can get you...
Danny has got a really sweet gig. I mean he gets to fly all over the place and build skyscrapers on TV for a living.
On a side note, I'm annoyed with whoever decided to put Project Runway on at the same time as Extreme Engineering. They are the only two summer shows that I have any interest in watching.
BTW, there is an architect on Project Runway this season. She's a bit severe but looks like she might have some interesting ideas. Also I have no idea how she got there.
Crap, are you kidding me DubK? I was five seconds from posting that there is an architect on Project Runway this season!! I had no idea they were on at the same time!
I imagine the architect will get booted pretty quickly, though - she seems very tough and not melodramatic enough. But her designs looked cool.
As for EE this week, I'm annoyed that in Danny's graphic explanation of why rebar is used inside concrete the two words "tension" and "compression" never came up. Seems so simple, and not too difficult a concept for the non-engineering crowd to grasp.
Ok I just figured out that Project Runway repeats every week after the original show, so life goes on. Honestly I really don't watch that much television, I swear.....
The Extreme Engineering Thread
For use after each week's show.
We just saw the episode about the Cardinals stadium. I about died when Petey showed up to do a site visit. Caulk, anyone?
Also Danny's dancing with the chick in the country bar was classic.
That roof is incredible. The field even more so.
OK, discuss.
DubK, I fear this conversation will end up being something you and I would enjoy more in a dark bar with martinis (gin for me, vodka for you).
But to bring it out of the realm of gossip about the cute host, here's an observation:
That scene with the guys joining the pieces of track rail together? On a huge open glaring sun-filled filed, in 110 degree heat (which SuperBeatledud is probably enjoying as we speak), using blowtorches to create a little 3500 degree furnace five feet away from where they stand? I am really, really glad I don't have that job!
That said, I thought the process was very cool, with the pre-heating of the tracks and the sparking of the weld powder (?) to melt down and fill the mold. I love what a perfect example it was of an incredibly advanced technical engineering feat (sliding a field of grass out of a stadium) is still, in the end, accomplished with basically the same technology that has been in use for 4,000 years. Who says architecture isn't, ultimately, a material process?
Also, I found I was getting stressed out when Eisenman was doing his site visit - this is the one hour of TV I watch a week, I don't want it to feel like I'm at work!
Well, while this could devolve into a conversation just between the two of us, it had some really, really cool stuff on it that I thought others might want to discuss. For instance, Danny said that the field in Japan "floats" in and out of the stadium but he didn't explain it. I want to know how it floats.
Also I love how the show manages to capture all the elements of a good architectural drama: fear (being stuck in the cherry picker), angst (argument with the site super), hilarity (dancing), etc. Perhaps this is the reality show about us archi-nerds we've been waiting for.
Yeah, it basically is! I *also* wondered how that Japanese field floats...
Again, I love the respect he shows the workers, who (at this level of constrcution) really do know their shit.
he can't catch a football. deprived of outdoor life from too much studio work?
"I about died when Petey showed up to do a site visit."
WonderK, i've always appreciated your logical insights, but this statement throws me off! Eisenman is a tool and this stadium is nothing near what he has been writing about and waxing poetic for the last 40 years.
does that bother you sameolddoctor?
im just gald he stopped putting non structural columns in the middle of the dining table...;-)
hey this means the arizona cardinals(why didnt they change their name??? if they can get a new stadium they should be able to get some new uni's and some new marketing materials) will just suck in a new stadium. you all havent convinced me to spring for cable.
and this piece will fall off in about ten years...
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since i didnt see the show what makes this stadium different from any other retractable dome stadium with lotsa corporate sky boxes and not enough room for the players when they run out of bounds?
above should say glad not gald.
from an interview with pete @ design boom
DB:
is there any architect or designer from past you appreciate a lot?
oh, I appreciate many architects.
Pete:
from the past, I love palladio, I'm doing a book on him,
and piranesi, I like le corbusier, terragni, my book on terragni is finally coming out.
I have many architects.
DB:
and those still active?are there any particular ones you appreciate?
Pete:
I really respect leon krier, although I disagree with him a lot,
we are very good friends,
also moneo...
DB:
any advice for the young?
Pete:
unless you are really committed to being an architect
in the true sense of the word,
its a terrible business and I wouldn't recommend it for anybody,
unless you need to do it for some personal reason,
I would say go into business, go into law, medicine, but don't be an architect.
funny man.
sameolddoctor, I have to agree with you. "I about died" because Petey is such a tool. With the addition of an architect as a host, I was wondering if they were going to bring out the starchitect angle. I've held an opinion of Petey for many, many years since I was in the first new class at DAAP (which they showed in the montage, BTW) and he gave a lecture there when it opened. He's really quite full of himself. But, while I have to say that I appreciate the way with which he approaches most problems - from an experimental standpoint - I would agree that this stadium is nothing like what we are used to experiencing from him.
Come to think of it, you have to give the guy credit. When someone says, "oh there's a new Eisenmann building going up there", you don't know what you're going to get. The same cannot be said of many starchitects.
I need coffee now. More later.
I love the shot with the stadium in the background and the cactus in the foreground. At which the host says something like, "Peter Eisenman is a good architect."
I sat in Eisenman's class fall semester, and he is a raging sports fan. He loves baseball and football ... so perhaps the stadium is natural for him? Maybe?
Smokety, it's post-rationalization. The cactus explains the form when really he just came up with it and thought it looked cool, and there it is. Honestly, how many of us have not done a project and post-rationalized it? We are the kings and queens of it! And Petey is one of the Masters.
I was already laughing by the time Danny announced that "Peter Eisenman is a good architect." Like telling an audience devoid of architectural education that he's good is enough to get them up to speed. :o)
I just happened on the show last night. One question, where the hell is that stadium at? Looks like it's 50 miles from the city. In ancient Rome did they build the collesium in the country? Did everyone ride their chariot out there for the gladiator matches? Heck no, so why do we do this today?
Ok, enough soap box for now. Never been an Eisenman fan, but can't say I really like the aesthetics of any modern NFL stadiums. The designers doing baseball stadiums have been far better in my opinion. Still doubt the Cardinals will ever field a Super Bowl team, even with their snake in the desert stadium.
I got to watch the show too. I thought it was fairly enjoyable, something everyone in my family enjoyed watching, without attention waning.
I give it two thumbs up and I like how Danny and the show aren't pretentious.
That shot with the little barrel cactus was cute, but it was painfully obvious that they trucked in a little cactus, stuck it in a hole and scattered some sand around it to make it look "natural", got their shot, and left. I wonder how that poor little cactus is surviving now? Its one moment of glory, then forgotten like an old starlet. So sad.
Yeah, A, it did look odd, i'm pretty certain the stadium is very close to central Phoenix, yet it appeared to be in the middle of nowhere. Maybe it was in Indiana?
The best part of the show last night was watching the subcontractors squirm as the GC laid into them.
the new colts stadium is downtown. as is the soon to be former one.
I just found out from a friend who lives in Pheonix, AZ that the stadium is located in Glendale, which is basically in the middle of nowhere.
The story is as he tells it, that the original plan was to have the project located right in downtown, but for post 9-11/FAA concerns they didn’t want to have such a massive project located so close to the city center. So it got bumped all the way out to Glendale.
oh I remember those days when the defected Saint Louis Cardinals showed up in Tempe at the undersized Sun Devil Stadium....August
120 Degrees on the west side of the stadium ...and a 150 degrees on the east side of the stadium....and of course no BEER.....They left it behind in Saint Louis...... It was a bummer....Scorched and Parched...Watching a Loosing home team!
They said that the Japanese field moved into the stadium on a cushion of air, which says to me hovercraft.... and it is!
I like the show and all, but does it seem like it pitches to the lowest common denominator when explaining things to us, the viewer? I know they have to appeal to the broadest audience in their explanations of complex systems, but maybe they're walking off a razor edge between being condescending and simple/concise?
I didn't think the stadium was that attractive. But, to end on a positive, the roof fabric was amazing...what was that working load limit? Huge.
Yeah I think it was like 17,000 lbs psf which does NOT make any sense to me at all. It was fabric! Pretty amazing.
In case you're bored there's a pre-Danny Extreme Engineering Marathon on the Discovery Channel this weekend. Good stuff.
Wondering what Icon or National Monument they would loose in downtown Phoenix with the exception of Will Bruders Public Library.
I never felt downtown Phoenix had any thing over Glendale or vis versa.
Tonight at 10:00pm - Extreme Engineering, Mega-Tunnel. Danny travels to Malaysia's capital city of Kuala Lumpur to check out the construction of the worlds first-ever duel-purpose tunnel: it will carry both cars and storm water.
Basically fixing Malaysia's traffic and flood problems in one fell swoop—and the amazing thing is, once a year, when Kuala Lumpur gets hit with a massive flood, they will evacuate all the cars and flood the entire tunnel with water.
I just got rabbit ears - damn it!
Very interesting project, however, I think I would have liked to see more about the project and the machinery that makes it, and less about the giant problems they were having. The part at the end where they were making the concrete panels was cool but then again, I'm a sucker for concrete. Mainly I think that some more details about how the tunnel closes off the vehicular traffic in the event of a flood, or how much room the water has underneath, etc. would have been helpful. I'm just saying.
Also, that camera guy has balls.
can someone tape this show and post it to australia?
DubK, I totally agree. I really wanted to know more about how the final structure will function as an engineering piece.
Also, yes, the camera guy(s) is the unsung hero. I love how Danny looks appalled at the creepy spaces he's climbing into but you know the camera guy is already in there!
The power of a vacuum....the vacuum erector - amazing!
Um where's the show? What's with the MythBusters? Don't get me wrong I like MythBusters as much as the next geek, but I prefer EE.
About fifteen years ago Russia discovered some of the world's largest sub-sea oil and gas deposits (akin to what exists in the North Sea and the Middles East). Now, with the help of engineers and builders at Samsung Heavy Industries in South Korea, Russia is attempting to mine the resources (and potentially destroy the environment in the process).
That said, please tune-in and tell everyone you know about the show. There will be another, all new episode every week at our regular time slot so please stay tuned.
Danny Forster
It was better witout the host.
Another stadium with floating characteristics was Mile High Stadium in Denver. It looked pretty normal in the football configuration, but one whole set of stands (opposite from the press box) was able to float out on a thin cushion of water to allow baseball to be played there without having a rediculously short left field line (a la LA Coliseum when the Dodgers played there before Dodger Stadium opened up in 1962).
Oh, and by the way, this show was also shot in High Definition and looks spectacular on Discovery HD Theater if you know someone who has an HDTV and gets the channel.
Why is there not a show just on architecture? It could be Rem explaining the CCTV and we get to see it go up.
I could care less about a "the Architect" reality show. The last thing we need to do is expose our egos.
No offense, but it is sad that we are getting excited from a show about engineering which just happens to be hosted by an architecture major. There is really no relevence to our profession within this show (i did see the stadium show), its just like all the other programs on Discovery Channel, TLC, and History Channel.
We should be pissed off about this. Why can't architecture be a part of pop culture. I bet half of this country does not know who Wright, Corbu, and Mies are.
Sapporo Dome! Go Takenaka!
Soooo.....
Did anybody catch how they get those big oil rigs to the TOP of the giant concrete pillars? I think they sort of passed over that information.
Also it would be great if, during the show, Danny were at liberty to mention what damage all of this could cause to the environment. Alas....
Lastly I would like to mention one thing to moratto: with all due respect, I think I'm quite glad that architecture is not a part of pop culture. After all, pop culture has given us Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and other things I never want to see again so I'm quite content to be a member of an outsider's club.
Totally disagree. You saw Eisenman on that show about the stadium he designed, right?
I just saw an incredibly interesting and fun lecture by Garrett Finney, an architect who did work for NASA on the human habitability issues of the space station, and the work he brought to the design process of a bunch of engineers is essentially what makes it possible for astronauts to do their work in extremely technical and harsh conditions without going totally insane. The role of the architect encompasses structure, coordination, impact, and (for lack of a better word) livability of all sorts of built projects.
If I couldn't find something relevant to my work (which is high end residential, for heaven's sake!) in EE then I'd say I wasn't looking very hard.
OK, so I did get a little carried away.
But what the Eisenman episode failed to do was clerify the design process. Sure it mention the concept, but it showed the architect as just an asshole who shows up to the building site (maybe he is). I wish it showed Eisenman and HOK collaborating on the design, showing process that lead up to the construction.
I come from a region that does not value design. The role of the architect is misinformed and often marginalized. I think the more exposure of our profession and values the better. Architecture and design can not afford to be an exclusive club anymore. I am not content with that.
sorry about the EE bashing, it really is a good show
moratto you are right - the Az stadium show did read exactly as you describe it. And yes, EE tends to not show how an architect might be involved in/improve large technical engineering projects.
"I wish it showed Eisenman and HOK collaborating on the design, showing process that lead up to the construction."
Yeah, but they were on site for a week and filmed what . . . 25-30 hours of footage to wind up with 45 minutes in the final cut. In order to capture the pivotal moments of a 2 or 3 year design process, how much time would you spend filming mindless meetings and phone calls.* It's just not realistic for a weekly TV show to undertake something like that. I still find the program interesting.
*As an aside, this is what really impresses me about documentaries like "Startup Dot Com". The commitment it takes to follow through on something like that amazes me.
If you want to see the design process on film, see "A Constructive Madness" (about Gehry's designs for Peter Lewis's house) and see what 10 years, lots of fish-like forms, and a couple million dollars can get you...
Is that the Progressive Insurance guy? Talk about flushing cash.
Danny has got a really sweet gig. I mean he gets to fly all over the place and build skyscrapers on TV for a living.
On a side note, I'm annoyed with whoever decided to put Project Runway on at the same time as Extreme Engineering. They are the only two summer shows that I have any interest in watching.
BTW, there is an architect on Project Runway this season. She's a bit severe but looks like she might have some interesting ideas. Also I have no idea how she got there.
Crap, are you kidding me DubK? I was five seconds from posting that there is an architect on Project Runway this season!! I had no idea they were on at the same time!
I imagine the architect will get booted pretty quickly, though - she seems very tough and not melodramatic enough. But her designs looked cool.
As for EE this week, I'm annoyed that in Danny's graphic explanation of why rebar is used inside concrete the two words "tension" and "compression" never came up. Seems so simple, and not too difficult a concept for the non-engineering crowd to grasp.
lb please talk about concrete being a slut...please.pretty please
Ok I just figured out that Project Runway repeats every week after the original show, so life goes on. Honestly I really don't watch that much television, I swear.....
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