Whoa I forgot to turn the italics off. Eh.

On a side note, I think I'm the only person on the site this morning. Which is a little awkward.


This is the part where I pimp my summer sublet and then go away:

have a great day!

I'll be there, unless of course I don't come.

i got one word - "topheavy" or BIG7

wish i was there. we're in ohio every christmas. thats right, ashland, ohio.

ill be there if there's free booze and belly dancers.

nevermo, go to bed. insomniac...

Next Christmas, Orhan, we'll have a special holiday edition meet-up in Ohio. Is Ashland the city built by Mr. Wexner, where the required "architectural style" is Georgian?

I'm looking forward to being an architect-tour geek all day Sunday!

(Damn I'm embarassed that my post count is still highe than Steven's - I need to disappear for awhile.)

i am still trying to figure out ashland, pop. 27,000, after all those years. i think it is one of those early manufacturing towns where the leaders of industry built georgian palaces. those days are mostly gone. first starbucks opened last christmas in a truck stop/gasoline chain. other than that, myers are doing well as usual, but gills had to go bunkrupt, after nafta...

and if you ARE in the ohio valley region this weekend (cincinnati, louisville, etc.) there is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for not participating in derby activities. see here: derby time

today is the pegasus parade and the track infield is open (violent femmes are playing right now i think - for only $2!), tomorrow is the kentucky oaks, saturday is the big day.

Jeepers, Steven, are you doing Derby all day Satruday and leaving to come to Cincy Sunday?! Busy busy weekend, I hope our trip to CIncy (it's business-related, everyone, but with a high socializing-business ratio) won't be pulling you away from Derby events!

you lot aren't going to sit around eating that awful cinci chilli. I don't want to be on that post-brunch tour.

I vote for that diner joint in Over-The-Rhine. (even though I'm not coming)

Derby is somewhat like Mardi Gras. When it's over, it's over.

('Course it's not Lent after Derby. That would be depressing. We get a glorious Spring instead.)

Very funny Cameron. No, we're going to be very civilized and polite and professional - right up until beer time. Which will be 5pm or whenever one of us says "Enough work, I'm ready for a drink!", yes?!?

I forgot to mention, although it's not internationally broadcast, the thread title is an allusion to the fact that Cincinnati's Flying Pig Marathon is being held on Sunday morning. It starts pretty early but if you guys are coming in around 11:30 am you might still have to deal with some traffic related to road closures and the like. It's actually really cool. I shall be getting up around 7 to catch some of my friends running in it!

Also Cameron, I believe the diner you are referring to no longer exists. In practice anyway, the building is still there. Unless I am wrong and you refering to something else....

WonderK, I went there in January. you know the one, it's on Vine. A couple of blocks from Tom Dutton OTR HQ.

i remember that one too. though i haven't been there in about 4 yrs.

i dont wanna go to someplace that is out of business. im a people person!

Ok Cameron I know what you're talking about now. Yes I've been there before. Not since college though...

vado, don't worry we'll go someplace good.....not sure where yet but I'll figure it out....

Is it in Cincinnati (or Covington)? Yes. Does it serve beer? Yes.

That's where I want to go. All I care about really is the company.

How about Newport? I'm thinking one of three places....one each in Covington, Newport, and Cincy. If it's nice out, Covington will probably win as they have the most outdoor seating....

I'm just thinking with my keyboard right now as I need to waste some time. I promise that on Sunday I will have something profound to say.

wonderk, i was hoping we might make some time to go to uc campus after cac, if that has any bearing on the decision about places to hangout. i'm a fan of mt adams, but i've been there plenty of times before and am up for something unexpected.

I will be there, though I make no promises to having profound comments.

Cameron, speaking of T Dutton, I received an assistantship from MU and listed working with him and the Center for Community Engagement as my first of three picks.

i will talk about the following:
music
cars
sex
not necessarily in that order.

Cars and girls and drinks and songs
Make this world spin around
What about love and what about trust?

lb, we said coffee emporium in the a.m., right? my email's broken so just wanted to check. see you there unless you say otherwise on this thread!

Yes Steven - I saw that your email is down, you can always call me but yep Coffee Emporium it is! Vado will have our curriculum written on the drive in to town so we'll just be able to relax and have coffee instead of any serious brainstorming haha! Can't wait guys. See youse (that's my leftover Philly girl voice) tomorrow.

sigh .....

how about I give you my phone number ... and you guys can call me ..

I shall be there ... in spirit ...

not even sure if i'll be up at the time !!

If this was a diamond merchant's ... or an Oil Tycoon's forum ...
I would have gladly take the the trip down to Cinci!!

I was out of it all day. I have no idea if any of you are going to see this tomorrow but if I don't hear from anyone by 2:30 pm, I'm going to start making phone calls.

PS. I have stories. Please use the following key words to remind me:
-Tom Dutton
-double feature
-crazy drunk people

Now I need to go to bed so I can get up in 3 hours and cheer for marathon runners. I'll be a wee bit tired on our walk, I'm afraid....

wonderK ..

crazy drunk people ...

you can mail me ... :D since i wont be there

we'll carry you wk

Sorry WK (it cracks me up when people use that abbreviation for you because it reminds me of that ugly bloody-nose image of AndrewWK that was plastered all over NYC one time I was there, anyway):

I'll be calling you from coffee after we get to town. Sorry you have to get up so early for the marathon but have fun! Looks to be a lovely day.

You guys should post some pics in the Events or on flickr...

yea. pics.

I want to hear a Tom Dutton story!

what a fun evening! We'll post some pictures as soon as we can get them together and online.

... so tell us what you guys did !!

and please dont post the pics on flicker or myspace .. you know the probs I have with them right ? ..

glad you guys had a fun time

big day, lots of walking in downtown cincinnati and around the uc campus. i'll let others fill in the blanks, but the general itinerary was:

-i met liberty bell and vado retro at kaldi's for coffee and talk.

-we walked to the freedom center to do reconnaissance for the field trip/project that lb and i will be organizing for high school students this summer.

-wonderful lunch (with beer).

-walked to/toured zaha's contemporary art center. the exhibits included a retrospective of antfarm, a very cool collection of 'inventions' and large scale watercolor conceptual drawings by a group called los carpinteros, and the HOME house project - which included our fearles editor javier arbona's tree/house project.

-met wonderk, superbeatledud, and superheavy at wonderk's (& soon superbeatledud's) very cool apt and headed to...

-university of cincinnati campus. toured the new athletic center by morphosis, saw the outsides of new bldgs by tschumi, moore/rubell/yudell, gwathmey/siegal (i think this one was unanimously disliked by our august group of critics), and others.

-then toured eisenman's daap, walking through some graduate and undergrad studios, including superbeatledud's studio. we got to see the spa project he's working on and we all huddled over his big model and got all archi-nerdish talking about his model materials and the way the finishes came out.

-vado, lb, and i got a tour of superbeatledud's current apt (before he becomes wonderk's roommate): also a very cool place.

-then dinner! beer and good food at an irish pub on a terrace overlooking the cincinnati skyline, the lovely ohio river and its bridges. i got a little sleepy/quiet as the evening came to a close, but it was cool being surrounded by 'nectfriends.

thanks to our hosts: wonderk, superbeatledud, and superheavy.

...oh, and vado DOES know a lot of song lyrics but doesn't bring flash cards with pictures of jerry lewis and cheerleaders.

NICE ..., VERY ..

I'm exhausted! And thank you for posting that summary of the day's activities Steven as I'm too tired to do it - reading it makes me exhausted all over again!!!

I will post pics today, but have to do some work-related stuff first. Per sporadic's request and Javier's suggestion I'll post them in Events, if they are flattering enough to me, of course.

Great great day of architouring - I saw and learned and liked a lot. CAC was great - wildly restrained IMO and that is its strength - and the second level bathrooms are *this* close to being perfect. What makes me laugh is when I saw the tile in the bathroom I thought to myself "Wouldn't it be cool if the horizontal plane of the floor and the matching vertical plane of the wall didn't meet as a corner but as a little curve that would be a re-enactment of the curving concrete signature element of the building?". My vocabulary has been positively affected by hanging out on archinect.

I was personally totally captivated by Allan Wexler's Hypar Room installation (and not only because I could slide across the textile floor): not so much as a sculpture, but as a learning example of geometry and carpentry I thought it was fantastic and fun.



Also really enjoyed Ant Farm, the installation of the materials is excellent and the work of course very interesting and relevant even though 30+ years old.

I can't get over how BIG that Morphosis project is! UC was incredible urbanistically. But too many stairs for that late in a day of walking...kidding. The level changes are what make it so interesting.

Thanks to the best tour guides and hosts ever - WonderK Superheavy and Superbeatledud you guys are so fun I will be back again to bother you soon. It is so fun hanging out with architects!

Gwathmey Siegel! That's who it was. Thanks for getting that right Steven.

For my own sanity, I am posting the following info taken directly from UC's web site:

Tangeman University Center
Design – Gwathmey Siegel & Associates Architects of New York
Cost – $50.8 million

Joseph A. Steger Student Life Center
Design – Moore Ruble Yudell Architects and Planners of Santa Monica
Cost – $26.2 million

Swift Hall Renovation
Cost – $11 million

Student Recreation Center
Under construction, to be completed by winter 2006. New housing scheduled to open in fall 2005
Design – Morphosis of Santa Monica, in partnership with KZF, Inc.
Cost – $102.5 million

MainStreet Open Space
Design – Hargreaves Associates and local partners Glaserworks
Cost – $21.6 million

Infrastructure
Underground mechanical, plumbing and electrical utilities and communication systems
Cost – $21.7 million

Total: $233.8 million
The majority of the cost of the MainStreet project is paid for by student fees and the rest is supported by state funding, gifts and rent.

glad you guys had fun ... can't wait to see the pics ..

Oh and speaking of vocabulary, when we met with a dancer we are collaborating with and she used the term "sagittal plane" we three architects immediately perked up and went "Huh?!? What was that word?!?"

Explanation and graphic here

I'm proud to be such a dork.

lb, you just blew my mind. I am already formulating sentences and conversations in my head in which I can use that word. Fantastic.

sporadic can you not get to Flickr accounts? We'll figure something out.

OK I just uploaded a ton of pics. Archinect editors, please edit as you see fit. Now to work...

One of my favorite words from anthropology was "sagittal crest." It's the ridge of bone that goes down the center of the skull, like a mohawk, that allows for the additional attachement of chewing muscles. Most people don't have it anymore, but on some bald people, you can see a little remnant. I also liked phenotypic plasticity, zygomatic arch, and epicanthic eye fold. Oooh, science words! I'm going to make a building out of it!

3 cheers for our tourguides and hosts with the most. they are some of cincinnati's best and brightest!!!

vado, thanks!

lb, well done on the pic uploads, but wow, do I suddenly feel exposed. It's all fun and games until your virtual self merges with your real self and then you've nowhere left to hide.....

and why didn't anyone tell me my head is that large. Christ.

WK vado took a ton of pics of me at the CAC until his camera battery died. He'll expose me no doubt once he gets that fixed. Though actually he left the camera in my car so forget what I just said.