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Light in a conceptual sense

evanvploeg

Hi, my name is Evan, I'm new here. Quick background: I'm in my second year of architecture school at a community college with a small but pretty solid program. I'm working on a project based off a photograph and centered around music/rhythm, I've been trying to keep it very conceptual and put a lot of work in this semester. I really want to get into a good school for upper division. Anyways my school now is too small to have 24 hour studios and theres only 9 people in my studio anyways so I don't often have people to talk to in the middle of the night when i'm working haha. 

But to why i'm posting, I've started looking at my project to this point in respect to light, and trying to use the light as a tertiary organizational element overall and more focused in a couple of separate studies. I'm having trouble deciding how I want to graphically show light though, I know its hard to talk about with out seeing my actual work, but what are some ideas?

 
Nov 4, 11 11:45 pm
evanvploeg

thanks for the help guys! oh.. wait.. anyways, i figured out what i'm doing conceptually, just have to decide on a graphic language for it. Is there any architecture forum or chatroom with a lot of activity, particularly for students? I'm craving that studio atmosphere and conversation.

Nov 5, 11 1:52 pm  · 
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Stephanie

I don't know, is 'studio atmosphere and conversation' code for 'someone to tell me me WTF to do'?

Because that's how it's sounding from here.

('light as a tertiary organizational element'...? I know you're in your early years, but you should know how alienating and desperate architectural jargon sounds.)

Go home, get some rest, stop living at the studio.

Nov 5, 11 4:23 pm  · 
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maybe try looking at the drawings/buildings of someone like louis kahn? tadao ando?

i always used charcoal renderings when i really wanted to show the quality of light in a space...

Nov 5, 11 4:42 pm  · 
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evanvploeg

@ stephanie, no its not code at all haha, I have a pretty decent idea of what i'm doing, but not being able to bounce ideas off of other people or talk about architecture makes me second guess myself. I know the jargon doesnt mean anything to those who don't know it but i thought this was a place where people would understand what i was saying. My school is too small to have a real studio, which would be somewhere i could talk to fellow students about things. Thanks for the comment, i know i still have a ton to learn!

 

@ phillip, that might be a great idea. I would like to work with charcoal more, I haven't had much experience with it yet. Thanks!

Nov 5, 11 4:54 pm  · 
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jargon is cringe-worthy i agree.  no idea what you want to say and i was trained in the 90's when everyone was deleuze this and liebniz that !   advise staying away from it because it does not sound professional, only obfuscation.  unless you are sanford kwinter, in which case go for it.

as for light, ando and kahn also come to mind for me.  kahn used lots of fun  archi-babble as well so it could be interesting read for you.  ando doesn't say much about it either way and just makes do with building and letting the buildings talk for him.  frampton says ando is critical regionalist if you want to find a theory to support use of light that goes beyond mysticism. 

Nov 5, 11 8:13 pm  · 
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evanvploeg

Ok, i'll work on talking in a less confusing manner. Its just the way my professors and classmates have talked, and I haven't really tried to do anything different. I certainly don't want to invoke cringes, alienate people, or sound desperate... Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I've thought my way through everything by now. The End.

Nov 5, 11 11:47 pm  · 
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sameolddoctor

I think this is a very valid question, and as for jargon, this is really not that bad - Hang out in a jury for 3 minutes and you will hear much worse.

I would also suggest looking at some early corbusier drawings - "Architecture is the masterly, correct and magnificent play of masses brought together in light."

 

Nov 6, 11 1:50 am  · 
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evanvploeg

Thank you! I appreciate you not assuming that I'm a completely lost retard who abuses an English to Architecture dictionary haha. I personally think that light is one of the most difficult elements to wrap my mind around conceptually, but that it can have a huge impact on almost any project. Sooo, any conversation or thoughts on light are very welcomed, the more different view points and thoughts the better. Just one thought that takes a different angle can spark awesome ideas.

Nov 6, 11 10:24 pm  · 
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Seeker

You may want to try this exercise: design your space(s) drawing on black paper and painting only the surfaces that receive light.

Fiat Lux

Nov 7, 11 1:24 am  · 
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Token AE

 I appreciate you not assuming that I'm a completely lost retard who abuses an English to Architecture dictionary haha.

I think that I'll just stick with my assumption of English in general.

 

I know the jargon doesnt mean anything to those who don't know it

This is true, if not a bit elitist. However, jargon also doesn't mean anything to those that do know it. There is a very specific band of incompetence where it has relevance- usually in academia.

 

On to your actual question:

Light and music are more interrelated conceptually than you may realize. Both are energy transmitted in a wide range of individual frequencies that can in turn be the constituent parts of a bigger unit- notes are to chords as component spectral frequency is to perceived color.

Without doing your work for you, if you really want to understand the fundamentals of light you should investigate spectral power distribution graphs. You don't need to understand the hard math behind it- but a solid grasp of their fundamentals will be helpful.

Nov 7, 11 10:25 am  · 
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x-jla

Between Silence and Light

Kahn

 

Nov 7, 11 6:43 pm  · 
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evanvploeg

I've pretty much finished my project, my review is tomorrow, but it would be awesome if this could just turn into a discussion of light. This project has only increased my belief of how relevant light is to architecture, even in the early stages of school.

Nov 7, 11 8:07 pm  · 
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x-jla

186,000 miles per sec.

Nov 8, 11 12:43 am  · 
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