Are extra curricular activities something grad admissions people look for in applicants? I know it was a huge deal when I was applying to undergrad, but that was a little different. I figure that since grad schools are more specialized, they'll focus more on what you did that applies directly to what youre studying rather than what you do in your free time. am I wrong to assume this? The reason I'm asking is that I am currently working full time (graduated college already) and spend most of my free time working on my portfolio and studying for the GRE's, and I cant really put a meaningful amount of time into extracurricular activities, and I'm afraid this will hurt me when I apply to an arch grad school. Can anyone help?
It isn't a critical issue. On the one hand your candidacy may be strengthened by evidence of activities that relate to your interest in architecture, or that indicate leadership, or that indicate initiative.... On the other hand, if you have no such activities it won't be held against you the way it would have in as a highschool student applying to college.
Most of the schools I applied to for my M.Arch required something in the form of a resume or curriculam vitae. This was a good place to list awards, winning competition entries, various jobs, and any other relevant activities. I would NOT list things that you did in highschool unless they are ongoing things with which you're still involved.
Business schools look to extracurricular activities for signs of independency, team player, leadership, etc., etc. There just isn't much beyond grades to know who is going to be a better leader. Also, they look at the B+ students as being more 'well rounded' and as better candidates (at least this is what schools told us, I never got a MBA).
Anyway, architecture is different. You can see the grades and you can see the work. The rest is just superfulous. BUT, as Aluminate notes, things that could help, like photography, art, sketching (this would be the best, imo), or whatever else that is applicable.
If you don't have them, don't worry, most dont'. I don't think anyone cares if you are an avid mountian biker or play rugby, either way you'll be giving it up soon! (almost kidding)
i think my extracurricular activities helped me but i'm not talking about honor society (by extracurricular activities i mean internships, a few volunteer things for arch.-related events, competition entries). just to show you are a passionate student with diverse interests. i included a whole section of my portfolio related to this.
cool. this is a load off my back. I was considering putting both my internship (undergrad) at a local firm and gsd career discovery on. think these would help?
Career Discovery is somewhat of a tricky issue. Some of the top-rated schools (naturally those that are NOT the GSD) tend to consider it a bit of a cliche and it can "push the wrong buttons" of certain people on admissions committees. I'd advise that if you do Career Disco that you include the work, indicate in your portfolio where you did the work, but think about whether you need to list it anywhere else, and you most likely do NOT write your personal statement about that program...
grad schools ask for a resume. i think it matters (at least in terms of top schools) what they see on that resume. i'm 23 and logged time working in an urban design office out of the country,as well as time under a starchitect name here in the states. i had a strong portfolio, undergrad school and grades - but i definitely believe my resume helped me.
its a good question because everyone emphasizes the portfolio and never considers wild cards like this.
cool. i definitely know that i'm not going to write my statement about career discovery (though it was very helpful in giving me a glimpse of what grad school might be like). i'll just list it as one of my activities (or include in my cv), and put some of my work in my portfolio.
i guess a follow up question might be: how strongly should i emphasize my post undergrad work (ie job)? im currently working in the construction management industry as a project engineer. i know its not a unique idea for architecture students to have construction experience, but since i dont have an architectural degree (minor only) its really helped to fill the voids left by an 'incomplete' education.
First off: if you have a minor in architecture then you have more of an architecture education than about a third of your classmates will have. First-professional M.Arch programs aim for diversity: about one third will probably be from architecture majors, another third from other design fields or things closely related (like urban studies, urban policy, art history....) and the other third will be from completely unrelated majors (everything from music therapy to biology.) It sounds like you've got plenty of work for a portfolio, a decent amount of professional experience, etc.
How to "emphasize" your construction management job: this depends on what you've gotten out of it. If this experience has deeply influenced your current take on architecture then you may feel that it would be a good focus for your personal statement. If not, then just put it in your resume, with a good brief description of your job responsibilities.
If you pad your academic resume with extra curricular activities it will appear just like what it is - padding. Keep it real and don't do something because you think somebody will like it. At this point make in the process just finish your portfolio.
Extra curricular important to get into grad school?
Are extra curricular activities something grad admissions people look for in applicants? I know it was a huge deal when I was applying to undergrad, but that was a little different. I figure that since grad schools are more specialized, they'll focus more on what you did that applies directly to what youre studying rather than what you do in your free time. am I wrong to assume this? The reason I'm asking is that I am currently working full time (graduated college already) and spend most of my free time working on my portfolio and studying for the GRE's, and I cant really put a meaningful amount of time into extracurricular activities, and I'm afraid this will hurt me when I apply to an arch grad school. Can anyone help?
noone wants to answer this? anyone?
don't worry about it.
i listed fantasy football as my extra curricular activity.
lol....seriously? I'm thinking I might end up putting some stuff i did in high school (though that might just look desparate)
I definitely included extra curricular stuff . . . music, art, competitions, community involvement . . .
It isn't a critical issue. On the one hand your candidacy may be strengthened by evidence of activities that relate to your interest in architecture, or that indicate leadership, or that indicate initiative.... On the other hand, if you have no such activities it won't be held against you the way it would have in as a highschool student applying to college.
Most of the schools I applied to for my M.Arch required something in the form of a resume or curriculam vitae. This was a good place to list awards, winning competition entries, various jobs, and any other relevant activities. I would NOT list things that you did in highschool unless they are ongoing things with which you're still involved.
Business schools look to extracurricular activities for signs of independency, team player, leadership, etc., etc. There just isn't much beyond grades to know who is going to be a better leader. Also, they look at the B+ students as being more 'well rounded' and as better candidates (at least this is what schools told us, I never got a MBA).
Anyway, architecture is different. You can see the grades and you can see the work. The rest is just superfulous. BUT, as Aluminate notes, things that could help, like photography, art, sketching (this would be the best, imo), or whatever else that is applicable.
If you don't have them, don't worry, most dont'. I don't think anyone cares if you are an avid mountian biker or play rugby, either way you'll be giving it up soon! (almost kidding)
i think my extracurricular activities helped me but i'm not talking about honor society (by extracurricular activities i mean internships, a few volunteer things for arch.-related events, competition entries). just to show you are a passionate student with diverse interests. i included a whole section of my portfolio related to this.
cool. this is a load off my back. I was considering putting both my internship (undergrad) at a local firm and gsd career discovery on. think these would help?
yup. as long as your internship work is somewhat interesting (don't put a bathroom tile cad layout in there). gsd: yea, naturlich.
Career Discovery is somewhat of a tricky issue. Some of the top-rated schools (naturally those that are NOT the GSD) tend to consider it a bit of a cliche and it can "push the wrong buttons" of certain people on admissions committees. I'd advise that if you do Career Disco that you include the work, indicate in your portfolio where you did the work, but think about whether you need to list it anywhere else, and you most likely do NOT write your personal statement about that program...
grad schools ask for a resume. i think it matters (at least in terms of top schools) what they see on that resume. i'm 23 and logged time working in an urban design office out of the country,as well as time under a starchitect name here in the states. i had a strong portfolio, undergrad school and grades - but i definitely believe my resume helped me.
its a good question because everyone emphasizes the portfolio and never considers wild cards like this.
cool. i definitely know that i'm not going to write my statement about career discovery (though it was very helpful in giving me a glimpse of what grad school might be like). i'll just list it as one of my activities (or include in my cv), and put some of my work in my portfolio.
i guess a follow up question might be: how strongly should i emphasize my post undergrad work (ie job)? im currently working in the construction management industry as a project engineer. i know its not a unique idea for architecture students to have construction experience, but since i dont have an architectural degree (minor only) its really helped to fill the voids left by an 'incomplete' education.
First off: if you have a minor in architecture then you have more of an architecture education than about a third of your classmates will have. First-professional M.Arch programs aim for diversity: about one third will probably be from architecture majors, another third from other design fields or things closely related (like urban studies, urban policy, art history....) and the other third will be from completely unrelated majors (everything from music therapy to biology.) It sounds like you've got plenty of work for a portfolio, a decent amount of professional experience, etc.
How to "emphasize" your construction management job: this depends on what you've gotten out of it. If this experience has deeply influenced your current take on architecture then you may feel that it would be a good focus for your personal statement. If not, then just put it in your resume, with a good brief description of your job responsibilities.
If you pad your academic resume with extra curricular activities it will appear just like what it is - padding. Keep it real and don't do something because you think somebody will like it. At this point make in the process just finish your portfolio.
not really.
Are you kidding they will let anyone in
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