have you ever had autocad pull its vanishing act on you? it just suddenly disappears without warning, no hint that it was ever running or that you had done any work.
isn't FATAL a bit self-important? I'm sure they could've come up with something more appropriate.
Like the paper towel dispenser in the restroom here at the office. It has a label with an arrow pointing to a knob that says, "Emergency Feed Knob." For paper towels???? Not being able to conveniently dry my hands at a lavatory is now considered an emergency?
About half of all my crashes involved the autosave feature kicking in just as I was attempting some memory intensive task. I now have it turned off, and my files crash a lot less often.
AUTOCAD'S fatal errors are like herpie outbreaks, you never know when it is going to happen and it is always bad when it does. why cant i just draw, i loved to draw
i've always thought the best thing about cad was the hatching and text, two things that are so damned tedious in hand drawing, not to mention difficult to be consistent.
If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:
1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine.
4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on.
5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats.
6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads.
7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light.
8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt.
9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off.
10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna.
11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.
12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.
13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.
I am in the habit of hitting QS for quicksave pratically between every other command. I had to turn my autosave off - I am a better autosaver than my computer could ever hope to be.
okay...BOTS funny thing is, in reality cars are really the opposite you stated, but your point is well taken. one thing though, i have yet to hear of an instance where windows xp killing people because its center of gravity is too high...
i talked to autodesk because i am charge of making my office use autocad more efficently and here is a couple of things i found out.
1. unless you call autodesk, they will not put out a list of what not to do, to keep your autocad program from crashing or having issues.
2. about saving; set your autosave to 5 minutes, and set your percentage save to 0 zero - setting this to zero means that when you do a quick save it does a full save and not the partial save when you use quick save and the save percentage is set to anything but 0.
3. do not hatch any xref'd file, this will cause problems.
4. if your cad shuts off with no warning 9 times out 10 it's the graphics card.
5. do not save as another version if you can help it, again problems can ensue.
6. if you have ever had a problem where even opening a cad file causes a fatal error try this; open a new drawing, first try inserting it as a block, this may or may not work, if it does, explode the block, if it does not xref the file into the drawing and bind the drawing - use insert - and explode the drawing and typically i have found this cures the problem. after that i usually audit and purge, and superpurge, then i do a full save.
7. create an identifiable acadtemp folder just for cad files, autocad many time spreads it out all over and at time its difficult to find stuff, then go into your preferences and change your temp file path, your temp xref file path to this location - there is another temp file path but i forget what it is....
see here's the thing i look forward to the day when i am back to pen and paper, pencil and trace, basswood - and other parts - and glue and some intern is carving up the digital landscape with my "genius" ideas....i don't care enough to care whether or not autocad changes anything, it is a temporary condition, because i hope to be a temporary user....
the post is not wrong but your notaslga is touching. It's just that commercial design Technology is a bit slow, they have the cheek to call it intelligent and ask for huge summs of money with tie in contracts etc.
maybe it's not the only thing in the office with a lack of understanding?
betadinesutures, I find your list helpful...please continue....
As much as I swear (loudly and furiously) at Autodesk every day, their help/discussion forum on their website has ALWAYS been useful when I have a problem that makes me want to toss my computer out the 14th floor window.
FATAL ERROR didnt this film star glenn close as the rabbit boiling jilted lover of a handsome and famously rich architect (played by mr. catherine zeta-jones) i think it was just on amc?
I tryed to load some old drawings saved on and earlier version to a disk earlier today and autocad kept giving me and error...what a bummer....I can see the drawing in the window view, but there is something it just doesn't like. I tried loading it into both 2000 and 2007. It sent a message to autocad, but I got some wierd message back saying they had recieved my error report but, give it a priorty review to see how many people have had a similar problem and then decide when they would review it and get back to me. So I have this vision of one individual stuck away in some Metal Storage Container, in India with a wireless network, reviewing all of these error messages, who could really care less as to when they will get back to me. Thanks AutoCad!
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FATAL ERROR
Son of a fucking bitch. Fucking acad. Goddamit.
autosave is our friend.
have you ever had autocad pull its vanishing act on you? it just suddenly disappears without warning, no hint that it was ever running or that you had done any work.
i feel your pain man... i know it all too well.
recover
Ummm... autosave is a time-bomb when you're dealing with 60+mb 3d files.
ARRRRGGGGHHH.
Thanks for the sympathy tho.
I already backtracked and am back up to speed.
Cheers.
isn't FATAL a bit self-important? I'm sure they could've come up with something more appropriate.
Like the paper towel dispenser in the restroom here at the office. It has a label with an arrow pointing to a knob that says, "Emergency Feed Knob." For paper towels???? Not being able to conveniently dry my hands at a lavatory is now considered an emergency?
its a fatal error for the program, right..the program DID die
in the same way its an emergency for the dispenser that got empty
i should take a break
About half of all my crashes involved the autosave feature kicking in just as I was attempting some memory intensive task. I now have it turned off, and my files crash a lot less often.
autosave is a bitch - a bigger bitch than autocad itself
microstation.......writes information real time....what a concept.
AUTOCAD'S fatal errors are like herpie outbreaks, you never know when it is going to happen and it is always bad when it does. why cant i just draw, i loved to draw
"microstation.......writes information real time....what a concept."
I hear you.
when i was drawing by hand i was always battling tendinitus, stiff necks and headaches. now with computers i battle boredom. does anyone miss drawing?
yeah, damn autocad
i've always thought the best thing about cad was the hatching and text, two things that are so damned tedious in hand drawing, not to mention difficult to be consistent.
Hatching is something that will crash drawings (associative hatching) occasionally - in AutoCAD anyway.
it happens when you try and hatch xrefs...so i don't and turn off associative hatching...
say no more...
If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:
1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine.
4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on.
5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats.
6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads.
7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light.
8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt.
9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off.
10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna.
11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.
12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.
13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.
I am in the habit of hitting QS for quicksave pratically between every other command. I had to turn my autosave off - I am a better autosaver than my computer could ever hope to be.
okay...BOTS funny thing is, in reality cars are really the opposite you stated, but your point is well taken. one thing though, i have yet to hear of an instance where windows xp killing people because its center of gravity is too high...
i talked to autodesk because i am charge of making my office use autocad more efficently and here is a couple of things i found out.
1. unless you call autodesk, they will not put out a list of what not to do, to keep your autocad program from crashing or having issues.
2. about saving; set your autosave to 5 minutes, and set your percentage save to 0 zero - setting this to zero means that when you do a quick save it does a full save and not the partial save when you use quick save and the save percentage is set to anything but 0.
3. do not hatch any xref'd file, this will cause problems.
4. if your cad shuts off with no warning 9 times out 10 it's the graphics card.
5. do not save as another version if you can help it, again problems can ensue.
6. if you have ever had a problem where even opening a cad file causes a fatal error try this; open a new drawing, first try inserting it as a block, this may or may not work, if it does, explode the block, if it does not xref the file into the drawing and bind the drawing - use insert - and explode the drawing and typically i have found this cures the problem. after that i usually audit and purge, and superpurge, then i do a full save.
7. create an identifiable acadtemp folder just for cad files, autocad many time spreads it out all over and at time its difficult to find stuff, then go into your preferences and change your temp file path, your temp xref file path to this location - there is another temp file path but i forget what it is....
there is more so i'll add to it...
betadinesutures don't bother I am yawning too hard
and another thing, with insights like these we'll have everything at 100% productivity in no time.
'4. if your cad shuts off with no warning 9 times out 10 it's the graphics card.'
Do AutoDesk advise rolling the dice everytime you use AutoCAd to draw. It's pathetic for the money they drag from our frustrated bodies.
yeah i know what you mean your list was pretty tedious...
touche
hey i hate the program too i am merely pointing out what they told me....i guess me posting this is wrong??
see here's the thing i look forward to the day when i am back to pen and paper, pencil and trace, basswood - and other parts - and glue and some intern is carving up the digital landscape with my "genius" ideas....i don't care enough to care whether or not autocad changes anything, it is a temporary condition, because i hope to be a temporary user....
the post is not wrong but your notaslga is touching. It's just that commercial design Technology is a bit slow, they have the cheek to call it intelligent and ask for huge summs of money with tie in contracts etc.
maybe it's not the only thing in the office with a lack of understanding?
betadinesutures, I find your list helpful...please continue....
As much as I swear (loudly and furiously) at Autodesk every day, their help/discussion forum on their website has ALWAYS been useful when I have a problem that makes me want to toss my computer out the 14th floor window.
FATAL ERROR didnt this film star glenn close as the rabbit boiling jilted lover of a handsome and famously rich architect (played by mr. catherine zeta-jones) i think it was just on amc?
you mean this by Armand Mastroianni?
good one bots
yeah, this sucks. i hate autocad and i hate every little error that comes up when all i do is copy something or just pan. what's with this bullshit?
BOTS wouldn't know anything, as he is not welsh, but australian
I tryed to load some old drawings saved on and earlier version to a disk earlier today and autocad kept giving me and error...what a bummer....I can see the drawing in the window view, but there is something it just doesn't like. I tried loading it into both 2000 and 2007. It sent a message to autocad, but I got some wierd message back saying they had recieved my error report but, give it a priorty review to see how many people have had a similar problem and then decide when they would review it and get back to me. So I have this vision of one individual stuck away in some Metal Storage Container, in India with a wireless network, reviewing all of these error messages, who could really care less as to when they will get back to me. Thanks AutoCad!
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