there is no such thing as style, just production. the question should read "what does your architecture reflect?". that being said this is a good question. post-industrial humanist. haha
i'd like it OK if that were true, mdler. unfortunately, dwellist is way too bold for most people!
exit wound's answer is closest to what i hear from clients, sad to say. the design goal for a project i have under construction right now was that it had to blend in with the nineteenth century storefronts that used to make up the neighborhood, i.e., it stands alone pretending it's part of something that no longer exists.
i like the juxtaposition of images. we're used to thinking of style as being teleological or at least linear (modernism begets postmodernism) when in fact the evolution is far more complex and simultaneous. i go to church in a huge english gothic pile of rocks that opened the same year the dessau bauhaus was completed the same year gaudi died. it's a nice way of looking at history that tends to work better in images than words. i think it turns the notion of zeitgeist on its ear.
i basically just said the same thing you did, so yes, i agree!
i think today is all about the architecture of have's and have-not's...
have's get starchitecture.... and everyone's gotta look at its context-less egocentric creations .
and then theres the have-not's.... which is just budget architecture.... working on a serious budget and never achieving anything spectacular because of the reality of today.
and then theres everything in between.... but really, lets try to design and build some totally smart new things....
Thank you, EE Wound, for posting those fantastic collages/grouped images!
Everyone, go look at them... they're very enlightening (with some gorgeous buildings to boot!) and show that the idea of historical periodization is a tough sell.
just remembered a wonderful clip in "radiant city":
"hybrid neoclassical , french mansardic with all of the details wrong so it ends up looking as if it was half submerged in a hurricane starting from the second floor."
Hey, I've been in the Winton Guest House. Our final undergrad studio at U of M was based on this Wayzata site before it was subdivided and the guest house moved to St. Thomas. I would much rather live in the same site's Philip Johnson Davis house. And I don't even like Johnson or that example of international style, if that says anything.
And if you're wondering what my project was, it was a replacement guest house! Hahaha! (Though we weren't allowed to demolish Gehry's.) Yay for follies!
Without a doubt the style for the current period is NIMBY! (Not in my back yard!). I'm tired of hearing that a city, "historic" district, or a group of people that don't even live near a project, but live in the county, manage to stop progress.
Gratuitous Clock Towers. Actually banned by zoning in a Chicago suburb and also a possibly decent name for an emo band.
Apr 19, 18 2:04 pm ·
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Non Sequitur
is emo back in style?
Apr 19, 18 2:11 pm ·
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CandS
I'm in Austin - many people are doing a bad job with at least (3) of the following:
-Fiber Cement Siding (of multiple orientations and spacings) -Shed Roof(s) (think mcmansion with several separate panels, multiple heights) -Window Placement -Site design and "xeriscaping" -Using real wood siding facing due south and west, unprotected -Color Selection
I think we have a lot of styles, but the distinction from one to the other is muted by the market pressures to not offend ANY potential customer, so we get a soft core version of international style that from the perspective of developers and investors seems safe, but it is boring. The parametric style seems to have crested and is slowly receding from favor there is still a northwest "style" and a Miami/Latin american "style" but few architects are building things big and small with a set language of design moves, details and (clutch your pearls) ornament that could define a style.
Ando Ghery and Calatrava being some of the exceptions to the lack of a distinct style.
If clients, investors and architects were brave enough to pursue it we could have distinct styles but people in the academic and design criticism circles might hate it and bemoan it as a regression or an abomination. If buildings with a set style get built and last a few years it might be recognized as a style that has a language that others could follow and build on. It is hard for our profession, that romanticizes the individual "genius" of the artist architect working alone, to accept a style in the form of a language or dogma as a legitimate expression of creativity.
Maybe our current architectural style, when people look back on it will be the Anonymous Style, belonging to no one and nowhere.
each designer should be looking for internal interests and one or two essential core drivers which drive the execution of work. All decisions and direction should be run through that as a filter and oftentimes the more limiting the more interesting the work.... Appearance which is inherent with style should be secondary to conceptual basis of work.
Local governments and associated boards are weak and feeble.
Apr 19, 18 10:52 pm ·
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chigurh
It sounds like you are weak government sympathizer, pull up your big boy avant garde pants and join the revolution: styleless architecture driven by intellectual pursuit and eternal life.
I thought about this when looking at the Apple Store in Chicago. It's so refined, slick, effortless (yet very strenuous) simplicity. So, I don't know what our period is...however in the future, our period will be seen as dated, old-fashioned. Thus I wonder: What will the next style be like?
Apr 22, 18 3:23 am ·
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what is our current architectural style called
Is it postmodernism? Avant-gardeism? Currugated metal cladding and randomly located windowism?
recessionist?
there is no such thing as style, just production. the question should read "what does your architecture reflect?". that being said this is a good question. post-industrial humanist. haha
Over-consciously-subvert-a-grid-or-don't-be-cool-ism
Kwinter-Duanyist
contractor traditional
The i-Style
Like Duh.
Pretty soon crits will amount to " I got 82 likes on facebook so fuck you and your 33 likes bullshit"
that depends on what is is.
Not having a name is the goal -- meaning we're finally there ?
bastardized modern
Dwellist
i'd like it OK if that were true, mdler. unfortunately, dwellist is way too bold for most people!
exit wound's answer is closest to what i hear from clients, sad to say. the design goal for a project i have under construction right now was that it had to blend in with the nineteenth century storefronts that used to make up the neighborhood, i.e., it stands alone pretending it's part of something that no longer exists.
"it stands alone pretending it's part of something that no longer exists."
You ought to publish it just so you can use that line.
i think we are about to leave postmodernism, or maybe have just left it.
cool collages, wound. great point!
i like the juxtaposition of images. we're used to thinking of style as being teleological or at least linear (modernism begets postmodernism) when in fact the evolution is far more complex and simultaneous. i go to church in a huge english gothic pile of rocks that opened the same year the dessau bauhaus was completed the same year gaudi died. it's a nice way of looking at history that tends to work better in images than words. i think it turns the notion of zeitgeist on its ear.
i basically just said the same thing you did, so yes, i agree!
If Zeitgeist is a collage... then Landscape Urbanism is the pink-and-teal glitter glue that holds it together!
postneorealcrapism (there was an archinector with that name, s/he hasn't been around in a while though)
i think today is all about the architecture of have's and have-not's...
have's get starchitecture.... and everyone's gotta look at its context-less egocentric creations .
and then theres the have-not's.... which is just budget architecture.... working on a serious budget and never achieving anything spectacular because of the reality of today.
and then theres everything in between.... but really, lets try to design and build some totally smart new things....
inane
Thank you, EE Wound, for posting those fantastic collages/grouped images!
Everyone, go look at them... they're very enlightening (with some gorgeous buildings to boot!) and show that the idea of historical periodization is a tough sell.
just remembered a wonderful clip in "radiant city":
"hybrid neoclassical , french mansardic with all of the details wrong so it ends up looking as if it was half submerged in a hurricane starting from the second floor."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCeWCVWZbdo
what do you call a composition of box-like forms with each box having a different material on it?
Christmas presents.
Hey, I've been in the Winton Guest House. Our final undergrad studio at U of M was based on this Wayzata site before it was subdivided and the guest house moved to St. Thomas. I would much rather live in the same site's Philip Johnson Davis house. And I don't even like Johnson or that example of international style, if that says anything.
http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/080221gehry.asp
And if you're wondering what my project was, it was a replacement guest house! Hahaha! (Though we weren't allowed to demolish Gehry's.) Yay for follies!
Without a doubt the style for the current period is NIMBY! (Not in my back yard!). I'm tired of hearing that a city, "historic" district, or a group of people that don't even live near a project, but live in the county, manage to stop progress.
.
Where I'm living, I'd call it unnecessarywindowandshedroofism.
Gratuitous Clock Towers. Actually banned by zoning in a Chicago suburb and also a possibly decent name for an emo band.
is emo back in style?
I'm in Austin - many people are doing a bad job with at least (3) of the following:
-Fiber Cement Siding (of multiple orientations and spacings)
-Shed Roof(s) (think mcmansion with several separate panels, multiple heights)
-Window Placement
-Site design and "xeriscaping"
-Using real wood siding facing due south and west, unprotected
-Color Selection
Non Sequitur - I sure hope not.
I don't know man - lots of people using black brick and the darker gray fiber cement siding. Emo is probably back.
I think we have a lot of styles, but the distinction from one to the other is muted by the market pressures to not offend ANY potential customer, so we get a soft core version of international style that from the perspective of developers and investors seems safe, but it is boring. The parametric style seems to have crested and is slowly receding from favor there is still a northwest "style" and a Miami/Latin american "style" but few architects are building things big and small with a set language of design moves, details and (clutch your pearls) ornament that could define a style.
Ando Ghery and Calatrava being some of the exceptions to the lack of a distinct style.
If clients, investors and architects were brave enough to pursue it we could have distinct styles but people in the academic and design criticism circles might hate it and bemoan it as a regression or an abomination. If buildings with a set style get built and last a few years it might be recognized as a style that has a language that others could follow and build on. It is hard for our profession, that romanticizes the individual "genius" of the artist architect working alone, to accept a style in the form of a language or dogma as a legitimate expression of creativity.
Maybe our current architectural style, when people look back on it will be the Anonymous Style, belonging to no one and nowhere.
Over and OUT
Peter N
style is obsolete
each designer should be looking for internal interests and one or two essential core drivers which drive the execution of work. All decisions and direction should be run through that as a filter and oftentimes the more limiting the more interesting the work.... Appearance which is inherent with style should be secondary to conceptual basis of work.
Conformist koolaid talk
STYLE IS EVERYTHING
Haven't you learned anything yet?
Local governments and associated boards are weak and feeble.
It sounds like you are weak government sympathizer, pull up your big boy avant garde pants and join the revolution: styleless architecture driven by intellectual pursuit and eternal life.
I'd say the current "style" is whataboutism
Traditional transitional (or transitional traditional).
Idontgiveafuckional?
Marketecture.
erectile dysfunctions
style is just language. we should be much more concerned about what we are saying than how we are saying it.
and a corollary: we need to make sure that we select languages that are capable of communicating what we want to say.
I thought about this when looking at the Apple Store in Chicago. It's so refined, slick, effortless (yet very strenuous) simplicity. So, I don't know what our period is...however in the future, our period will be seen as dated, old-fashioned. Thus I wonder: What will the next style be like?
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