Today, for the first time, I exploded an AutoCAD hatch and I felt a confession was in order to relieve my soul of the burden of this Mortal and Grave Sin. I felt and still feel I had to do it but I can rest easier knowing the CAD Gods above will hear this confession and will perhaps forgive me this tresspass.
there's got to be some BIM/Revit related "exploding hatch girls"... i've got a guy who could be "everything is equipment boy", perhaps there's a "i thought i was using drafting lines dude"
Re-reading that old thread reminded me of an owner's rep I had to work with who would email me at least once a week requesting AutoCAD .dwg files in 1/4" scale, 1/8" scale, etc. And my PM, who was copied on the emails, would come around and ask, "Have you sent so-and-so those scale drawings yet?"...
After several futile attempts to explain "scales" in .dwg files to both owner's rep and PM, I ended up just making plot sheets in the dwg with views set in desired scale and then going out for rum and cokes.
postal - I've experienced this... it's not multi-tabs... it's multiple sheets per tab - and you're lucky if the sheets are actually adjacent to each other and in some kind of logical order.
This tends to happen in offices that use LT as there is no sheetset manager, and on projects where there are only couple sheets of architectural drawings.
ok i confess to being the one who's got everything on the wrong layers because i only care about matching the layer colors so that the drawing prints out right.
glad i got that off my chest. please recommend appropriate penance.
main reason for my sloppy cadding---principals who obsess over line weights on every sketch or in-house design study and go on and on about how terrible it is that cad drawings never look like beautiful hand drawings, then make you do revision upon revision to 'craft' the drawing, not giving a whit that the design sucks.
I have to admit I'm a bit confused by the multi-tab/sheet manager thing. Thats how the office I worked in always did it - creating sheets in PP, and only having files for Plan, Sections, Elevations, ect. How else can you do it?
Sarah, I think you're describing a common method... you have different "model" files (floor plans, rcps, elevs) and those are referenced into each "Sheet" file, where you would have a different CAD dwg for A-101, A-102, etc.... This allows you to use a lot of the batch plot third party and sheet manager stuff.
Another way, (though I'm not a huge fan) is to have multiple tabs for sheets... so, each tab is A-101, A-102 etc. You can still use a lot of different batch plot functionality. Though things get tricky if you have multiple files with multiple tabs, especially when printing PDF's.
What the comic is describing is having multiple sheets, (A-101, A-102) on a single paperspace tab. Meaning if you wanted to plot each sheet you would have different extent settings! You would more or less have to manually print everything.
(As an aside, Sketches issued for clarification or rfi's or what have you, I will keep in the same tab as the sheet, it won't affect plotting, you will be forced to keep your set up to date, and you have a very noticeable record of your sketch changes. (You would never need to print out a CD set with all your sketches)
Every office is different, and can do their own thing, and as toaster mentions, a project small enough, you can probably get away with doing stuff ass backwards.
uh oh, things just got serious...
elinor, five of these please:
CAD Father, who art from Autodesk, hallowed be thy spacebar,
thy project come, thy drafts be done,
on paperspace as it is in modelspace,
give us this osnap our daily polar tracking,
and wblock our arrayed elements,
as we wblock those who burst against us,
and trim us not when we can easily fillet with a radius of zero
but deliver us from F1
Forgive Me AutoCAD Father, For I Have Sinned...
Today, for the first time, I exploded an AutoCAD hatch and I felt a confession was in order to relieve my soul of the burden of this Mortal and Grave Sin. I felt and still feel I had to do it but I can rest easier knowing the CAD Gods above will hear this confession and will perhaps forgive me this tresspass.
CAD be praised.
Haha... where's my old exploding hatch girl rants...
but shouldn't it be, forgive me autocad, for i have bimmed?
there's got to be some BIM/Revit related "exploding hatch girls"... i've got a guy who could be "everything is equipment boy", perhaps there's a "i thought i was using drafting lines dude"
or how about 'change colors not layers' person.......not good...
forgive me ole cad gods.....but it is so much easier to draw in one line weight.....and well lines thru lettering is just so rad...oh i mean cad/rad.
Re-reading that old thread reminded me of an owner's rep I had to work with who would email me at least once a week requesting AutoCAD .dwg files in 1/4" scale, 1/8" scale, etc. And my PM, who was copied on the emails, would come around and ask, "Have you sent so-and-so those scale drawings yet?"...
After several futile attempts to explain "scales" in .dwg files to both owner's rep and PM, I ended up just making plot sheets in the dwg with views set in desired scale and then going out for rum and cokes.
Even to this day postal, when I think of THE RULES OF AUTOCAD I think about your exploding hatch girl rants.
The Ten Commandments of AutoCAD
1. I am the Lord thy CAD, and thou shalt have no other CADs before me, especially Vectorworks.
2. Thou shalt not explode hatches.
3. Thou shalt not rename thy XREFs.
4. Thou shalt not explode dims.
5. Thou shalt make thy dims associative.
6. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors workspace.
7. Thou shalt not draw on Layer Zero unless thou whishes to make a block.
8. Thou shalt always plot to scale.
9. Thou shalt use thy OSNAPS and POLAR, or ORTHO.
10. Thou shalt not place thy scale against thy monitor, for there is a DISTANCE command.
I hope it was the Sand hatch that you exploded...good times...
Thou shall not draw on the Defpoints layer.
Thou shall not modify the .ctb file.
Thou shall not explode Mtext.
Thou shall not use Dtext.
Thou shall brag about text control to thy Revit brethren.
so on february 13th, 2007 in the thread postal references above, el jeffe said this...
my latest find - ctrl-enter to exit the MTEXT editing box to keep edits...i hate using a mouse for menu input.
amazing... no idea how i made it this far without knowing that shortcut... huge, huge help... el jeffe... i thank you
oh thats for photoshop btw
does anyones office have this guy in there office?
multi-sheet tab dude
never heard of this!
postal - I've experienced this... it's not multi-tabs... it's multiple sheets per tab - and you're lucky if the sheets are actually adjacent to each other and in some kind of logical order.
This tends to happen in offices that use LT as there is no sheetset manager, and on projects where there are only couple sheets of architectural drawings.
ok i confess to being the one who's got everything on the wrong layers because i only care about matching the layer colors so that the drawing prints out right.
glad i got that off my chest. please recommend appropriate penance.
main reason for my sloppy cadding---principals who obsess over line weights on every sketch or in-house design study and go on and on about how terrible it is that cad drawings never look like beautiful hand drawings, then make you do revision upon revision to 'craft' the drawing, not giving a whit that the design sucks.
it's been 20+ years. get over it.
I have to admit I'm a bit confused by the multi-tab/sheet manager thing. Thats how the office I worked in always did it - creating sheets in PP, and only having files for Plan, Sections, Elevations, ect. How else can you do it?
Sarah, I think you're describing a common method... you have different "model" files (floor plans, rcps, elevs) and those are referenced into each "Sheet" file, where you would have a different CAD dwg for A-101, A-102, etc.... This allows you to use a lot of the batch plot third party and sheet manager stuff.
Another way, (though I'm not a huge fan) is to have multiple tabs for sheets... so, each tab is A-101, A-102 etc. You can still use a lot of different batch plot functionality. Though things get tricky if you have multiple files with multiple tabs, especially when printing PDF's.
What the comic is describing is having multiple sheets, (A-101, A-102) on a single paperspace tab. Meaning if you wanted to plot each sheet you would have different extent settings! You would more or less have to manually print everything.
(As an aside, Sketches issued for clarification or rfi's or what have you, I will keep in the same tab as the sheet, it won't affect plotting, you will be forced to keep your set up to date, and you have a very noticeable record of your sketch changes. (You would never need to print out a CD set with all your sketches)
Every office is different, and can do their own thing, and as toaster mentions, a project small enough, you can probably get away with doing stuff ass backwards.
uh oh, things just got serious...
elinor, five of these please:
CAD Father, who art from Autodesk, hallowed be thy spacebar,
thy project come, thy drafts be done,
on paperspace as it is in modelspace,
give us this osnap our daily polar tracking,
and wblock our arrayed elements,
as we wblock those who burst against us,
and trim us not when we can easily fillet with a radius of zero
but deliver us from F1
brilliant, postal.
The walk-by F1 is one of my favorite moves.
Thanks for clarifying, Postal. And that prayer, brilliant! Oh, crap, elinor said "brilliant," how about Genius.
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