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the how i made the GC angry thread (growing pairs for jlpoudey)

olaf design ninja

Told the GC he should of read the general notes on the cover sheet once after he claimed damproofing wasn't in the scope....of course it was, its a basement project, silly GC.

 
Nov 12, 10 6:39 pm
jplourde

what what!

though you spelled my nomenclature incorrectly, odn! perhaps on purpose?


btw, in terms of being more proactive, as everyone says is the correct way to go... there's a huge divorce between locale and brushed construct.

Nov 12, 10 7:42 pm  · 
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Rusty!

Bituminous dampproofing comes in two flavors: emulsified and err I forget the second one from the top of my head. If you use the wrong kind for the below grade conditions (or retaining walls) you might just as well have used mayonnaise instead.

That's why you need an actual spec for the dampproofing, and not just a note in your drawings. The GC didn't see the spec for it, and didn't include the price of that in his bid. Now he's talking trash about you to the owner and making you look bad for wasting owner's money.

Nov 12, 10 8:10 pm  · 
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won and done williams

if you didn't have a spec for it, i can see why he's pissed off. contractors hate to have items "slipped" into a general note as much as you hate to have substitutions "slipped" into a shop drawing. be explicit, man. no one benefits from these misunderstandings.

Nov 12, 10 9:46 pm  · 
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Distant Unicorn

The second one is coal-tar or mastic asphalt. Coat-tar also comes in a felt form rated for below grade use.

Emulsified bituminous dampproofing is an aqueous invert bitumen solution that's highly liquid at room temperature-- it comes in two flavors (cationic and anionic).

There's also a dozen other solutions out there ranging from impregnated concrete to specialty mortars to water-reactive coatings to sealants themselves.

That's like spec'ing wood floors and saying you want wood from trees.

Nov 12, 10 9:47 pm  · 
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olaf design ninja

(this whole post was about starting fights with alpha males)...anyway

in this local it's been code to damproof the basement since the 30's...and i guess you need the rest of the story. an actual damproofing/wp'ing was spec'd....the rest is top secret (no really)

i also told him to read the notes about ADA openings and passage ways, etc...he kept asking me to verify, blah blah... and after numerous times answering correctly on the spot I emplored "you know you can look at sheet so and so and get all the answers right." bout caught punched...

and it goes on, like not knowing standard code things. see if the contractor wants to run the show he better know his shit, the second he doesn't you can say things like "well i guess he's never done this type of construction before".

wdw...yes you're right, but once again if the GC wants to tell everyone how expert he is, after his long exhibition to the client, you follow that up with "yeah it's in the notes, we specified that, standard - beotch."

Nov 12, 10 10:17 pm  · 
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Rusty!

ninjaman, we are aware that your post was a tongue-in-cheek response to another thread, but most of us felt inclined to respond in a serious tone (even unicorn!!) out of fear that jp will yell at us next.

Nov 12, 10 10:29 pm  · 
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olaf design ninja

rusty you should be galvanized.

way to represent, even Unicorns know their waterproofing damnit.

Nov 12, 10 10:38 pm  · 
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Rusty!

My hipster ass prefers galvaneering over galvanizing. I was there for its first concert before it blew up.

Nov 12, 10 10:55 pm  · 
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Distant Unicorn

Steel studs go from gleaming and tawny to a weathered red
when the gods weep from up above
around and even sometimes under
as from the pages of archinect read
nor peace nor will nor god intentions nor even the sight of dovers
tired souls march on and off in anger, dismay, fright to sunder

Nov 12, 10 11:07 pm  · 
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Distant Unicorn

dovers=doves*

Nov 12, 10 11:07 pm  · 
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Distant Unicorn

That concludes Unicorn's Poetry Corner.

Nov 12, 10 11:07 pm  · 
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