Hey I just got into the EmTech M.Arch program and wondering who else will be joining for this fall?
Any current students out there that have suggestions for housing in London, or know of a room in an apt opening up somewhere?
Are you guys and gals doing anything to prep? what are you learning, who are you reading? Any current students or grads have suggestions?
Thanks,
A
Paulie
Mar 22, 12 4:44 pm
A lot of students go to live in East London or Camden.
For Emtech, it would be a good idea to get into grasshopper, and read up on biomimetics.
James Petty
Mar 22, 12 5:25 pm
when searching for a flat, use gumtree.co.uk or moveflat.co.uk
those are the best two... london flatshares can be competitive. when we had a room available in our flat we would tend to see 10+ people before making a decision. When i first moved to london, i stayed here:
Michael Pawlyn's Biomimicry in Architecture is a good read too.
They will teach you all of this stuff though, so don;t try too hard to have it all figured out before you go.
motioneye
Mar 29, 12 6:07 am
Any comments on the career prospects for EmTech graduates compared to other programs (schools) ?
motioneye
Mar 29, 12 12:24 pm
?
motioneye
Apr 2, 12 6:07 am
??
architect1986
Apr 10, 12 11:31 pm
As far as I can gather from other blogs and talking to past AA grads is that a lot of Emtech grads get into teaching or mostly head over to zaha or foster, but Im really not that sure.
(provided my non-AA funding application is successful ;)
axinear
May 3, 12 4:41 am
Hello,
I'm a future EmTech student, got my admission last week.
architect1986
May 6, 12 10:40 pm
@ dan.o.c and @axinear we should get in contact.
any other future AA people feel free to contact me as well.
BAK22
Feb 5, 18 12:31 pm
I am studying in the US, and I am applying to EMTECH,
my questions are:
What is the acceptance rate at the EMTECH?
How can we become a licensed architect in the UK RIBA part 2?
Should I apply for AA undergrad school after finishing EMTECH program?
TED
May 7, 12 5:50 am
I think EmTech grads are very employable [am one] - make certain you bring knowledge into the machine rationality and frame a clear research question within your dissertation [something I think many dissertations lack - they just focus on the tool] - so if you could, audit sustainable, h+U, dlr or Dip workshops/modules which bring much more theoretical and relavant points of view into the debate. That's what the AA is about.
architect1986
May 28, 12 12:37 am
anybody else out there joining this fall?
SiameseDream
May 28, 12 1:37 am
Hi All,
Slightly out of topic here , i hope you guys dont mind to help.
I'm negotiating with the AA regarding ARB/ Part I exemption into Diploma school.
I have been misunderstood all along that my 3-year B.Sc (arch) ,which obtained from RIBA validated course in Australia, would have gained Part I exemption automatically.
Basically , the AA asked me to either repeat 3rd year OR to gain an exemption from ARB before 15th of July which is impossible ( take 6 weeks just to organise an interview not to mention a tedious process they require)
Does anyone here from the US/ outside EU have or heard this sort of issue ?
My gut feeling says the AA is unlikely to offer me a Diploma place....
Thanks
TED
May 28, 12 3:43 am
ARB does allow entry into part II without part I but its under the specific regulations of the schools - AA is an undergrad degree awarded at Part II which is very unusual in the UK [most part II are postgrad diplomas or MArchs
If you look at ARB web site you would see this statement under most UK schools:
"The Institution will ensure that appropriate procedures will be maintained so that all students/candidates undertaking a prescribed qualification are fully informed of the extent of the application of that qualification to entitlement to registration as an architect in circumstances in which the student/candidate lacks a required antecedent qualification e.g. Part 2 without Part 1."
This allows entry into Part 2 without finalising part 1 - you still need to get Part 1, 2, 3 for full licensure but recognises it is not necessary to do it in a specific order. If your course was RIBA part 1, you met all the Part 1 Criteria, its just your school did not want to take up the burden of the ARB validation[cost, documentation etc]. So most UK schools are both RIBA/ARB Part 1 - Part 2
This statement does not appear on the AA prescription. At this point I would contact the RIBA education office directly who will know directly what the AA can and cannot do and what you will need to do to get 'part 1' if your course did not offer it -
hope it helps.
SiameseDream
May 28, 12 7:38 am
TED,
Thank you so much for your response,
The following is part of the email the school sent to me.
"If you had successfully completed a BA qualification in Architecture from an ARB accredited British University, you would have been granted Part 1 exemption automatically. However the ARB does not grant automatic Part 1 exemption to any universities outside the UK. If you hold a qualification from a university outside the UK, you will need to make an application to the ARB for Part 1 exemption independently."
As you just mentioned, many UK schools do accept candidates who dont have Part I .
But it seems to me that this is just the AA policy.
I dont really know what to do if they still insist that I need an exemption from ARB prior to commencing study. To repeat a whole 3rd year is really not an option for me right now.
TED
May 28, 12 9:01 am
Looking at RIBA, I don't think any Austrialian schools are RIBA validated -
The rules are very complex as UK schools have to recognise EU reciprocity -
Yes, it is true, you must get part I in order to apply for licensure. The email above doesn't state that you need it to enter part II - they may feel your work is only at year 2 level -
You could do an MA at the AA and then apply to arb for the Part I - then start AA Dip fall 2013. or you can go to another UK school for your part II [again, you still have to get a Part I before licensure -
SiameseDream
May 28, 12 11:03 am
Ted,
Really appreciate your help, thank you
I saw those PDF you just posted here a week ago , didnt know this issue between RIBA and CAA ( Commonwealth Association of Architects ) before.
I was actually graduated in 2010 , I'm not sure whether my degree
1. had been recognised ( up until 2012)
2. was regconised
3. still has been recognised by RIBA.
But, that doesnt seems to be the issue, or is it?
The email clearly stated that,
"In order to apply directly into Fourth Year, you will need to have gained Part 1 exemption from the ARB by 15th July 2012"
The whole issue is the AA wont give me a 4th year place unless I gain an exemption from ARB or repeat 3rd year.
It would be less confusing for me if they just say the quality of my folio is not good enough for 4th year and ask me to start at year three.
Another thing that baffles me is >>
Would the AA have asked me to gain an exemption had I applied in 2010 ? ( given they were happy with my folio )
I have to wait and see , btw its been really really frustrating, trying to just get any response from the AA admin. They dont seem to care whatsoever which is really weird for the PRIVATE institution.
TED
May 28, 12 2:47 pm
in the end It may just be the way they thin the high number of applications - and reading the ARB statement, yes, same thing would apply for 2010. ARB and RIBA [lets just say] hate each other to put it mildly - so it might not matter -
Be patient with AA admin as it is end of the year here and went to tables on Friday at the AA - 2 weeks till final hand in, then build the show.
I am certain they won't let you in - so maybe you should apply for the Part I over the next year and look to sept 2013 [or other uk school instead]
dan.o.c.
May 29, 12 7:50 am
any summer reading recommendations for a prospective DRL student? :)
so anybody else out there going have any plan for living situations?
dan.o.c.
Jun 3, 12 9:37 am
I have applied for two nearby halls, if unsuccessful I'll consider a flatshare.
accesskb
Jun 3, 12 7:10 pm
oh shoot! thanks for the links TED... my reading list for the next few yrs just quadrupled
accesskb
Jun 3, 12 7:10 pm
oh shoot! thanks for the links TED... my reading list for the next few yrs just quadrupled
dan.o.c.
Jun 7, 12 7:22 am
Does anyone know how the DRL calendar go? Is there tuition during the summer? Where does the prgramme ends exactly? january of the following year?
Starkitect
Jul 2, 12 1:55 pm
Hey all!
I wanted to know if the M.Arch DRL and EmTech degrees awarded by the AA School of Architecture come under any university or is the AA a deemed university by itself ??
dan.o.c.
Jul 2, 12 1:59 pm
As a private institution, AA degrees must be validated by a UK Public University for them to be recognised as Higher Ediucation Degrees. The Open University (a public distance-learning university based in Milton Keynes) validates AA Degrees.
Hope this helps ;)
Amy Leedham
Jul 2, 12 2:45 pm
also for visa purposes this update was recently sent out to AA members by the director Brett Steele
"I am also delighted to share another important piece of news with you all; last Friday the Quality Assurance Agency issued to my office a formal Letter of Confidence following the school’s first-ever accreditation by the QAA, the UK government’s agency responsible for maintaining standards of higher education in the UK. For the first time ever the AA school qualifies for accreditation by the QAA following new UK immigration legislation requiring all schools like ourselves to maintain a ‘highly trusted sponsor’ status, which in turn allows the AA to continue to attract foreign students to the UK."
Starkitect
Jul 2, 12 3:15 pm
Thank you very much Dan and Amy! So basically it means the degree is a recognized master's degree. Does it matter if it is validated by the open university or any other public university? - I mean prestige wise and in terms of recognition in future for job placements?
dan.o.c.
Jul 2, 12 4:33 pm
In terms of recognition prestige and job seeking what I suppose matters the most about the degree is being taught at the AA ;)
Graaf Floris
Jul 7, 12 6:27 pm
I seem to have the same problem as Siamese Dream: being accepted for the AA Diploma School (fourth year) with a foreign Bachelor Degree and having to gain the part 1 Exemption. As I have only just recently found ways to finance this venture, I will most definitely be too late to gain this exemption.
Has anybody heard of a possibility to gain the Part 1 while already studying the Part 2? I understand this is possible a other schools, but the AA seams to be quiet particular about this issue...
I´m accepted for the Bartlett MArch (what used to be the Barlett Diploma), too. They don´t seem to mind about not having this ARB exemption and just aknowledge my (european) Bachelor of Architecture...
I´m close to giving up and going to the Bartlett, although I´d really prefer the AA.
Thanks for your help!
dan.o.c.
Jul 23, 12 5:21 am
Hey, prospective AA students
has anyone been already offered the payment of full tuition fees before september?
harismas
Jul 23, 12 9:15 am
hi AA ppl......m a future DRL student, any luck in accomodation thing, actually m still searchin, fo flatshare...if anybody interested, plz [email protected] we get along
viral.doshi
Aug 3, 12 11:45 am
hi... will be joining EmTech course this year..
does anyone know if the Emtech course has any field/ study trips????
dan.o.c.
Aug 27, 12 1:03 pm
hey
vewry excited about going to london in a couple of weeks :D
anyone knows what kind of stuff are we doing for the induction week?
cheers!
yantian92
Jan 26, 17 2:25 pm
Emtech programme is not a good Master____ no lessons and they push you to produce for their marketing display... MORE MONEY MORE MONEY MORE MONEYYYYY. Undergaduate is much better.
I advice you to study somewhere else such as UCL School of Architecture.... they have more serious and better masters
ps____ I made EMTECH so trust me!!!!!
architectkim
Mar 3, 17 12:43 pm
Accepted at AA DRL ...
Still in the progress of choosing & receiving decisions.
frozenfish99
Jul 5, 17 9:47 am
Hey!
I'll be joining EmTech this September, what are you folks doing for accommodation ?
rheavora1
Apr 4, 20 3:42 pm
Hi you guys,
I have been accepted for the EmTech course as well and I am confused as despite the name and reputation of the AA, there are alot of factors that do not work with linear clarity. University/School life, Accreditation, No fixed module system etc. Is anyone also researching and trying to gather information? Please get in touch. Thanks!
Also anyone please feel free to post your review and comments!
TED
Apr 7, 20 3:57 am
Am emtech grad and there are modules and the program is accredited but is not a RIBA validation - if you are looking for that consider the part 2 program- without a uk part 1 you would be asked to enter year 3 of the part 1 (3 years total part 1+2) you might consider arranging a call with the program director who is very approachable and may connect you to current students - good luck!
Hey I just got into the EmTech M.Arch program and wondering who else will be joining for this fall?
Any current students out there that have suggestions for housing in London, or know of a room in an apt opening up somewhere?
Are you guys and gals doing anything to prep? what are you learning, who are you reading? Any current students or grads have suggestions?
Thanks,
A
A lot of students go to live in East London or Camden.
For Emtech, it would be a good idea to get into grasshopper, and read up on biomimetics.
when searching for a flat, use gumtree.co.uk or moveflat.co.uk
those are the best two... london flatshares can be competitive. when we had a room available in our flat we would tend to see 10+ people before making a decision. When i first moved to london, i stayed here:
http://www.london-hostels.co.uk/uk/pages/hostels/Friendship-House.aspx
its like a student dorm but with private bath... but it was bookable from the states.
Is there life after Emtech ?
What is the ratio of EmTech MArch alumni that actually thrive after graduation, financially and professionally speaking?
Sorry for misreading the title!
I thought is was: Any Future (for) AA EmTech or DRL students?
Ill take a look at friendship house. Ive been looking around Old Street mostly. Any authors or books in general to check out?
Start by getting the program director's book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Architecture-Emergence-Evolution-Civilisation/dp/0470066334/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332888519&sr=8-1
Michael Pawlyn's Biomimicry in Architecture is a good read too.
They will teach you all of this stuff though, so don;t try too hard to have it all figured out before you go.
Any comments on the career prospects for EmTech graduates compared to other programs (schools) ?
?
??
As far as I can gather from other blogs and talking to past AA grads is that a lot of Emtech grads get into teaching or mostly head over to zaha or foster, but Im really not that sure.
http://archinect.com/forum/thread/43559517/is-there-life-after-the-aa
hey, future AA DRL student here
(provided my non-AA funding application is successful ;)
Hello,
I'm a future EmTech student, got my admission last week.
@ dan.o.c and @axinear we should get in contact.
any other future AA people feel free to contact me as well.
I am studying in the US, and I am applying to EMTECH, my questions are: What is the acceptance rate at the EMTECH? How can we become a licensed architect in the UK RIBA part 2? Should I apply for AA undergrad school after finishing EMTECH program?
I think EmTech grads are very employable [am one] - make certain you bring knowledge into the machine rationality and frame a clear research question within your dissertation [something I think many dissertations lack - they just focus on the tool] - so if you could, audit sustainable, h+U, dlr or Dip workshops/modules which bring much more theoretical and relavant points of view into the debate. That's what the AA is about.
anybody else out there joining this fall?
Hi All,
Slightly out of topic here , i hope you guys dont mind to help.
I'm negotiating with the AA regarding ARB/ Part I exemption into Diploma school.
I have been misunderstood all along that my 3-year B.Sc (arch) ,which obtained from RIBA validated course in Australia, would have gained Part I exemption automatically.
Basically , the AA asked me to either repeat 3rd year OR to gain an exemption from ARB before 15th of July which is impossible ( take 6 weeks just to organise an interview not to mention a tedious process they require)
Does anyone here from the US/ outside EU have or heard this sort of issue ?
My gut feeling says the AA is unlikely to offer me a Diploma place....
Thanks
ARB does allow entry into part II without part I but its under the specific regulations of the schools - AA is an undergrad degree awarded at Part II which is very unusual in the UK [most part II are postgrad diplomas or MArchs
If you look at ARB web site you would see this statement under most UK schools:
"The Institution will ensure that appropriate procedures will be maintained so that all students/candidates undertaking a prescribed qualification are fully informed of the extent of the application of that qualification to entitlement to registration as an architect in circumstances in which the student/candidate lacks a required antecedent qualification e.g. Part 2 without Part 1."
This allows entry into Part 2 without finalising part 1 - you still need to get Part 1, 2, 3 for full licensure but recognises it is not necessary to do it in a specific order. If your course was RIBA part 1, you met all the Part 1 Criteria, its just your school did not want to take up the burden of the ARB validation[cost, documentation etc]. So most UK schools are both RIBA/ARB Part 1 - Part 2
This statement does not appear on the AA prescription. At this point I would contact the RIBA education office directly who will know directly what the AA can and cannot do and what you will need to do to get 'part 1' if your course did not offer it -
hope it helps.
TED,
Thank you so much for your response,
The following is part of the email the school sent to me.
"If you had successfully completed a BA qualification in Architecture from an ARB accredited British University, you would have been granted Part 1 exemption automatically. However the ARB does not grant automatic Part 1 exemption to any universities outside the UK. If you hold a qualification from a university outside the UK, you will need to make an application to the ARB for Part 1 exemption independently."
As you just mentioned, many UK schools do accept candidates who dont have Part I .
But it seems to me that this is just the AA policy.
I dont really know what to do if they still insist that I need an exemption from ARB prior to commencing study. To repeat a whole 3rd year is really not an option for me right now.
Looking at RIBA, I don't think any Austrialian schools are RIBA validated -
http://www.architecture.com/Files/RIBAProfessionalServices/Education/Validation/InternationalValidation/StatementregardingCAAschools.pdf
The rules are very complex as UK schools have to recognise EU reciprocity -
Yes, it is true, you must get part I in order to apply for licensure. The email above doesn't state that you need it to enter part II - they may feel your work is only at year 2 level -
You could do an MA at the AA and then apply to arb for the Part I - then start AA Dip fall 2013. or you can go to another UK school for your part II [again, you still have to get a Part I before licensure -
Ted,
Really appreciate your help, thank you
I saw those PDF you just posted here a week ago , didnt know this issue between RIBA and CAA ( Commonwealth Association of Architects ) before.
I was actually graduated in 2010 , I'm not sure whether my degree
1. had been recognised ( up until 2012)
2. was regconised
3. still has been recognised by RIBA.
But, that doesnt seems to be the issue, or is it?
The email clearly stated that,
"In order to apply directly into Fourth Year, you will need to have gained Part 1 exemption from the ARB by 15th July 2012"
The whole issue is the AA wont give me a 4th year place unless I gain an exemption from ARB or repeat 3rd year.
It would be less confusing for me if they just say the quality of my folio is not good enough for 4th year and ask me to start at year three.
Another thing that baffles me is >>
Would the AA have asked me to gain an exemption had I applied in 2010 ? ( given they were happy with my folio )
I have to wait and see , btw its been really really frustrating, trying to just get any response from the AA admin. They dont seem to care whatsoever which is really weird for the PRIVATE institution.
in the end It may just be the way they thin the high number of applications - and reading the ARB statement, yes, same thing would apply for 2010. ARB and RIBA [lets just say] hate each other to put it mildly - so it might not matter -
Be patient with AA admin as it is end of the year here and went to tables on Friday at the AA - 2 weeks till final hand in, then build the show.
I am certain they won't let you in - so maybe you should apply for the Part I over the next year and look to sept 2013 [or other uk school instead]
any summer reading recommendations for a prospective DRL student? :)
All AA units and M's have reading list on library website - doesn't vary too much year to year ....
http://www.aaschool.ac.uk/AALIFE/LIBRARY/readinglists/201112/DESIGN%20AS%20RESEARCH%20I%20201112.pdf
http://www.aaschool.ac.uk/AALIFE/LIBRARY/readinglists/201112/DESIGN%20AS%20RESEARCH%20II%20201112.pdf
http://www.aaschool.ac.uk/AALIFE/LIBRARY/readinglists/201112/DRL%20BEHAVIOUR%20201112.pdf
Thanks a lot TED!! :)
so anybody else out there going have any plan for living situations?
I have applied for two nearby halls, if unsuccessful I'll consider a flatshare.
oh shoot! thanks for the links TED... my reading list for the next few yrs just quadrupled
oh shoot! thanks for the links TED... my reading list for the next few yrs just quadrupled
Does anyone know how the DRL calendar go? Is there tuition during the summer? Where does the prgramme ends exactly? january of the following year?
Hey all!
I wanted to know if the M.Arch DRL and EmTech degrees awarded by the AA School of Architecture come under any university or is the AA a deemed university by itself ??
As a private institution, AA degrees must be validated by a UK Public University for them to be recognised as Higher Ediucation Degrees. The Open University (a public distance-learning university based in Milton Keynes) validates AA Degrees.
Hope this helps ;)
also for visa purposes this update was recently sent out to AA members by the director Brett Steele
"I am also delighted to share another important piece of news with you all; last Friday the Quality Assurance Agency issued to my office a formal Letter of Confidence following the school’s first-ever accreditation by the QAA, the UK government’s agency responsible for maintaining standards of higher education in the UK. For the first time ever the AA school qualifies for accreditation by the QAA following new UK immigration legislation requiring all schools like ourselves to maintain a ‘highly trusted sponsor’ status, which in turn allows the AA to continue to attract foreign students to the UK."
Thank you very much Dan and Amy! So basically it means the degree is a recognized master's degree. Does it matter if it is validated by the open university or any other public university? - I mean prestige wise and in terms of recognition in future for job placements?
In terms of recognition prestige and job seeking what I suppose matters the most about the degree is being taught at the AA ;)
I seem to have the same problem as Siamese Dream: being accepted for the AA Diploma School (fourth year) with a foreign Bachelor Degree and having to gain the part 1 Exemption. As I have only just recently found ways to finance this venture, I will most definitely be too late to gain this exemption.
Has anybody heard of a possibility to gain the Part 1 while already studying the Part 2? I understand this is possible a other schools, but the AA seams to be quiet particular about this issue...
I´m accepted for the Bartlett MArch (what used to be the Barlett Diploma), too. They don´t seem to mind about not having this ARB exemption and just aknowledge my (european) Bachelor of Architecture...
I´m close to giving up and going to the Bartlett, although I´d really prefer the AA.
Thanks for your help!
Hey, prospective AA students
has anyone been already offered the payment of full tuition fees before september?
hi AA ppl......m a future DRL student, any luck in accomodation thing, actually m still searchin, fo flatshare...if anybody interested, plz [email protected] we get along
hi... will be joining EmTech course this year..
does anyone know if the Emtech course has any field/ study trips????
hey
vewry excited about going to london in a couple of weeks :D
anyone knows what kind of stuff are we doing for the induction week?
cheers!
Emtech programme is not a good Master____ no lessons and they push you to produce for their marketing display... MORE MONEY MORE MONEY MORE MONEYYYYY. Undergaduate is much better.
I advice you to study somewhere else such as UCL School of Architecture.... they have more serious and better masters
ps____ I made EMTECH so trust me!!!!!
Accepted at AA DRL ...
Still in the progress of choosing & receiving decisions.
Hey!
I'll be joining EmTech this September, what are you folks doing for accommodation ?
Hi you guys,
I have been accepted for the EmTech course as well and I am confused as despite the name and reputation of the AA, there are alot of factors that do not work with linear clarity. University/School life, Accreditation, No fixed module system etc. Is anyone also researching and trying to gather information? Please get in touch. Thanks!
Also anyone please feel free to post your review and comments!
Am emtech grad and there are modules and the program is accredited but is not a RIBA validation - if you are looking for that consider the part 2 program- without a uk part 1 you would be asked to enter year 3 of the part 1 (3 years total part 1+2) you might consider arranging a call with the program director who is very approachable and may connect you to current students - good luck!