It's obvious from the comments that quite a few of you still haven't used an ipad for any length of time... Try one and see what you think before you go dooming it for lack of Flash.
Trace's comments that they have a "successful" business producing Flash based websites are all well and good. Nobody's going to force you to buy an iPad, but you may find that your clients will start asking you to make sites that work on the iPad too. You are also free to tell them no, or convince them to stick with Flash, it's totally up to you.
None of that has any relevance to the question - is the iPad useful to architects? I'm an architect, and I find it extremely useful. Dallasarchitect seems to agree. The other architects I know who have one also agree. I don't hear anyone here saying, "I have one, and it's useless", just a lot of "I think it's useless because _____". That pretty much says it all.
Well, those that don't have one that think it is lacking something, obviously won't buy one. I am as much for not buying one because of Jobs' approach to Flash as I am interested in seeing the competition that will be out soon.
If the iPhone 4 and Evo are any indication, this battle is far from over, unlike the first iPhone's dominance the competition has better specs.
I hear you, though, and trust me, I am keeping an eye on things. My money is that Apple will give in at some point, Adobe will come up with some "app" (that allows flash to work, and puts money in Apple's greedy pockets), or something. So far, the only people that are aware of the Flash thing are the geeks and professionals in the industry.
We'll start hearing about how some realtor bought one to show buyers on walk throughs, but then couldn't access Zillow or their walkthrough software, or how some kids wanted to watch some movie, but it was not compatible.
Instead of buying a Kindle and a laptop, I got an iPad. The battery life is excellent. It really does get 10 hours of use. Much better than any netbook at a similar price. And I can slip it into my messenger bag and go much easier than with a laptop and battery charger. Great for showing a portfolio and doing basic word processing and spreadsheet things.
It's not perfect, but it's better than any existing tablet. If you have a laptop and a Kindle already, an iPad would be an expensive additional toy. But, it does fill a niche.
maybe this thread should be renamed to "Ipad for employed architects", because those of us that are not employed can probably afford the ipad, but we got mouths to feed.
Why is everyone talking about flash? What bearing does that have on the work architects do? They don't work in flash, like, at all. Amd any good designer should favor and support open source over closed systems...
Re: unemployed architects... how about bringing an iPad to a job interview as a portfolio book...?
Would it be a worthwhile investment as a replacement for a portfolio binder or portfolio case including the color printing costs, one that can show video or presentations or where you can pull up supplemental project content as needed, that fits in a small bag, and where you can easily update the content digitally, or customize for each interview?
Instead of investing in any of the the things you just mentioned, I think it's a far more meaningful gesture to leave a copy of your portfolio with your interviewer.
Employers, do not like electronic presentations during an interview, that includes ipads. its a sure way to lose the job. besides most of us already have a professional portfolio that we are proud to show.
I actually interviewed for a job on Thursday. It was a 2 hour interview - and the interviewer actually thought having my portfolio on my iPad was great. He even told me to bring it to the 2nd interview I have on Monday.
So I think that employers respond well to a portfolio on iPad. At least this one did. :)
By the way, I recreated my portfolio in Keynote on my ipad and it works great!
"Amd any good designer should favor and support open source over closed systems"
then you are boycotting Apple? They are about as close to a controlled/closed system as you can get (no app, no work, no approval, no show in app store).
I'd be careful about the digital presentation too. Make sure that guy wasn't just thinking "oh, cool, an iPad, haven't gotten to see one first hand" vs. liking your portfolio on it (I don't know, maybe he did like it, but I can't imagine someone wouldn't want hard copies, or maybe he's hoping you leave the iPad!?)
Congrats on your record of having only "one" interview - but the largest firms in the world usually require more than one especially when it pays a 6 figures. :)
As an employer I would be completely fine if someone brought an ipad to an interview. I have a bigger problem when someone shows up without a portfolio and resume at all. This has happened to me more than once.
Technology has seriously evaluated since. You can drag you iPad everywhere with you with all your blueprints, draw on your blueprints, take photos of the problems on the construction site, create meetings, delegate tasks, keep everybody posted, well, many many things. It's sooo easy. Check this application for instance: www.aproplan.com
iPad for architects?
It's obvious from the comments that quite a few of you still haven't used an ipad for any length of time... Try one and see what you think before you go dooming it for lack of Flash.
Trace's comments that they have a "successful" business producing Flash based websites are all well and good. Nobody's going to force you to buy an iPad, but you may find that your clients will start asking you to make sites that work on the iPad too. You are also free to tell them no, or convince them to stick with Flash, it's totally up to you.
None of that has any relevance to the question - is the iPad useful to architects? I'm an architect, and I find it extremely useful. Dallasarchitect seems to agree. The other architects I know who have one also agree. I don't hear anyone here saying, "I have one, and it's useless", just a lot of "I think it's useless because _____". That pretty much says it all.
Well, those that don't have one that think it is lacking something, obviously won't buy one. I am as much for not buying one because of Jobs' approach to Flash as I am interested in seeing the competition that will be out soon.
If the iPhone 4 and Evo are any indication, this battle is far from over, unlike the first iPhone's dominance the competition has better specs.
I hear you, though, and trust me, I am keeping an eye on things. My money is that Apple will give in at some point, Adobe will come up with some "app" (that allows flash to work, and puts money in Apple's greedy pockets), or something. So far, the only people that are aware of the Flash thing are the geeks and professionals in the industry.
We'll start hearing about how some realtor bought one to show buyers on walk throughs, but then couldn't access Zillow or their walkthrough software, or how some kids wanted to watch some movie, but it was not compatible.
We'll see, it is all just beginning.
Instead of buying a Kindle and a laptop, I got an iPad. The battery life is excellent. It really does get 10 hours of use. Much better than any netbook at a similar price. And I can slip it into my messenger bag and go much easier than with a laptop and battery charger. Great for showing a portfolio and doing basic word processing and spreadsheet things.
It's not perfect, but it's better than any existing tablet. If you have a laptop and a Kindle already, an iPad would be an expensive additional toy. But, it does fill a niche.
aspect, would that be so bad?
maybe this thread should be renamed to "Ipad for employed architects", because those of us that are not employed can probably afford the ipad, but we got mouths to feed.
Why is everyone talking about flash? What bearing does that have on the work architects do? They don't work in flash, like, at all. Amd any good designer should favor and support open source over closed systems...
Re: unemployed architects... how about bringing an iPad to a job interview as a portfolio book...?
Would it be a worthwhile investment as a replacement for a portfolio binder or portfolio case including the color printing costs, one that can show video or presentations or where you can pull up supplemental project content as needed, that fits in a small bag, and where you can easily update the content digitally, or customize for each interview?
Instead of investing in any of the the things you just mentioned, I think it's a far more meaningful gesture to leave a copy of your portfolio with your interviewer.
ipad do not support traditional chinese, only simplified chinese... that's like only support sms language + emoticons and no formal english...
Employers, do not like electronic presentations during an interview, that includes ipads. its a sure way to lose the job. besides most of us already have a professional portfolio that we are proud to show.
Hmm,
I actually interviewed for a job on Thursday. It was a 2 hour interview - and the interviewer actually thought having my portfolio on my iPad was great. He even told me to bring it to the 2nd interview I have on Monday.
So I think that employers respond well to a portfolio on iPad. At least this one did. :)
By the way, I recreated my portfolio in Keynote on my ipad and it works great!
"Amd any good designer should favor and support open source over closed systems"
then you are boycotting Apple? They are about as close to a controlled/closed system as you can get (no app, no work, no approval, no show in app store).
I'd be careful about the digital presentation too. Make sure that guy wasn't just thinking "oh, cool, an iPad, haven't gotten to see one first hand" vs. liking your portfolio on it (I don't know, maybe he did like it, but I can't imagine someone wouldn't want hard copies, or maybe he's hoping you leave the iPad!?)
bringing an ipad to job interview is like wearing the latest millan summer fashion to show off!
i would borrow an old IBM laptop with os window 97. to show that i'm poor and modest, most importantly i need the god dawn job!
A 2nd interview? never had that happen to me ive always gotten the job with just one.
Displaced -
Congrats on your record of having only "one" interview - but the largest firms in the world usually require more than one especially when it pays a 6 figures. :)
Architect,
Congrats on making 6 figures, with that kind of money you get all of us archinectors an Ipad for xmas.
This is a funny thread to read two years later.
stupid hipsters.
try unzipping 25 consultant drawings, red lining them all and then zipping them back on an ipad. good luck with that.
get an android tablet. a full android tablet. not that kindle shit.
apple products are pretty shitty if you're doing anything other than consuming media.
As an employer I would be completely fine if someone brought an ipad to an interview. I have a bigger problem when someone shows up without a portfolio and resume at all. This has happened to me more than once.
The ipad is a great presentation tool for our office, and with the bulit in gyro on the pads and iphones you can do things like this: http://www.client.walkerworkshop.com/oakpass/tour.html
Sure, its a bit of a gimmick, but so far the clients love it.
Technology has seriously evaluated since. You can drag you iPad everywhere with you with all your blueprints, draw on your blueprints, take photos of the problems on the construction site, create meetings, delegate tasks, keep everybody posted, well, many many things. It's sooo easy. Check this application for instance: www.aproplan.com
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