for more information on dimensions and a picture of a book that might not be a book, you can refer to this thread that was an spin-off from too much trolling in thread central:
Not just clients, but the world at large using the term "blueprints" to mean any and all kinds of architectural drawing makes me a little crazy. Just say "drawings"!
I'd have thought clients would have stopped saying this a long time ago, but this one still annoys me: "Heh heh heh -- just remember, we want a Chevy, not a Cadillac... heh heh" .
I like to smile and say, "Ya know, your budget more aligns with a used Saturn."
I need this yesterday or even last week. ------
I have been your client for years, I don't understand why you are being so difficult about payments--------
I just want drawings, we don't need to file it.-----
During months of fee negotiations on a house project for the owner of seven Manhattan high rises I consistently refused to budge.
One day he showed up at the studio - without an appointment - and started talking as if the project was proceeding. He had seemingly given up on negoiating and was ready to start. I said, "So you're o.k. with the fee?"
i wonder when we architects will learn to properly charge for our services and when to tell a client to take a flying leap...i think we need to take a couple classes where contractors take theres
"My friend who is an architect, says your fee's are outrageous and you shouldn't be charging that much. He says it's worth (insert 1/2 of your fee's)." I tell them; Then hire him.
"Thank you and your team for the beautiful building we built together. It's been like a dream come true for us. Every day, I wake up, and I have to pinch myself to remind myself that it's real. Not only is it beautiful, but the process was actually enjoyable, and you and your incredibly talented team were there to help us, every step of the way. We're so grateful!"
Once after a lengthy presentation regarding a large commercial project to an Oil Rich Cowboy and his son. The Good Ole Boy Said, "Well that has been fun."
sh*t clients say
"Can you do some one dimensional renderings of that?"
"you mean 3 dimensional?"
"no, one dimensional"
Could you post that one dimensionsal rendering when finished?
Sounds like a technique I'd like to learn...
sounds like he's trying to refer to a rendered elevation to me...
an elevation would be 2-dimensional.
one dimensional would be a line.
for more information on dimensions and a picture of a book that might not be a book, you can refer to this thread that was an spin-off from too much trolling in thread central:
http://archinect.com/forum/thread/78895286/mobius-strip
Not just clients, but the world at large using the term "blueprints" to mean any and all kinds of architectural drawing makes me a little crazy. Just say "drawings"!
same with "skyscrapers" over highrises. Its just social lingo.
here's the one dimensional rendering:
____________________________________________________
How much do you charge for that?
What scale is that line?
shit contractors say:
"I like it, we'll just have to fancy it up a bit"
"I'm going to buy my own appliances, so you're not going to get a fee on that."
Looks good, but do you have some different 'clip art' that you can use? (client referring to furniture layouts on a floor plan)
Miles, i know that elevations are 2d. i'm just saying that the client sounds like he is TRYING to refer to a rendered elevation.
I'd have thought clients would have stopped saying this a long time ago, but this one still annoys me: "Heh heh heh -- just remember, we want a Chevy, not a Cadillac... heh heh" .
I like to smile and say, "Ya know, your budget more aligns with a used Saturn."
I need this yesterday or even last week. ------ I have been your client for years, I don't understand why you are being so difficult about payments-------- I just want drawings, we don't need to file it.-----
"I would like something "Modern" like a split level raised ranch."
"Can you make the cabinets for less than Home Depot?"
During months of fee negotiations on a house project for the owner of seven Manhattan high rises I consistently refused to budge.
One day he showed up at the studio - without an appointment - and started talking as if the project was proceeding. He had seemingly given up on negoiating and was ready to start. I said, "So you're o.k. with the fee?"
"You had to bring that up."
^ I guess you don't get to be the owner of 7 high-rises without a certain amount of bluster.
Inherited money is no reason to be an asshole.
Neither is earned money.
why is it going to take so long? doesnt revit draw it automatically?
Like two clicks in the computer right?
Interesting how some clients sound a lot like the principles of firms I worked at...
Client: "That should not take that long to do!"
Me: "Yes, it does. Can you do it faster?"
Client: "Oh, I don't know how to use AutoCAD."
"I can't pay you, but I can give you a lot of work"
client: "you don't mind if I breast feed during the design meeting, do you?"
no...seriously.
i wonder when we architects will learn to properly charge for our services and when to tell a client to take a flying leap...i think we need to take a couple classes where contractors take theres
"all I need is...."
fill in the blank.
Implying the cost of whatever task is not time consuming or fee worthy.
To be fair, I've seen uncountable instances when architects demonstrate similar behavior when dealing with their own consulting engineers !
"We're not going to accept any change orders on this project".
"It's going to be our dream house", said the developer.
dear structural engineer..
all we need is...
fill in the blank... its free right?
ha!
"I don't have a lot of money but I would like to ______"
Can I build a house for $75.00 per square foot?
"You think maybe we can get away without all those ADA Requirements?" You no I never see a person using those stalls....ever.
"Purlings"
"This project will really boost your portfolio. " implying reduction in fees
"We want to tear down our building and rebuild a new one..."
"Ok"
"...is that gonna cost anything?"
"I'll see that it gets published when it's done"
"Now that we've given you the final sign-off on the program requirements, we need you finish the drawings in two weeks."
"My nephew just graduated from architecture school. He's going to design he house."
"My friend who is an architect, says your fee's are outrageous and you shouldn't be charging that much. He says it's worth (insert 1/2 of your fee's)." I tell them; Then hire him.
"I need a ADA certification and approval."
i was going to add
'well done' or
'thanks for the timely response'
but i suppose that isn't snarky enough
"Thank you and your team for the beautiful building we built together. It's been like a dream come true for us. Every day, I wake up, and I have to pinch myself to remind myself that it's real. Not only is it beautiful, but the process was actually enjoyable, and you and your incredibly talented team were there to help us, every step of the way. We're so grateful!"
;)
"I can't spend more than $800" (referring to design work on a 2 story, 800 sf addition) Wait... I guess that wasn't a client.
Once after a lengthy presentation regarding a large commercial project to an Oil Rich Cowboy and his son. The Good Ole Boy Said, "Well that has been fun."
hey jeremy, you should refer that client to gruen. gruen does great one dimensional renderings and keeps it within budget. see above for work samples.
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