Please expand on "Extreme Ergonomics"

extreme ergonomics meaning that the material system will help define products of use-such as a bed loft, a chair, a desk, a table, etc. etc. This means that not only will the material system define spaces, but it will give the user the extreme ergonomics.


I am looking for an example that can provide me this kind of exploration, not necessarily to the extent of "extreme ergonomics" but at least uses this sort of material stacking operation to form spaces and floors.

almost like that March06

But looking for something less...organic?

from archinect's feature's.

inhabitants are recognizable by the chronic bruised foreheads...that's extreme ergonomics for ya.

I already have that example, which I used as a case study for me.
I was looking at a bigger scale maybe?

is it a good idea to tackle extreme ergonomics as my sensibility?

extreme ergonomics?
doesn't get much 'bigger' than this:

http://www.arcspace.com/architects/foreign_office/yokohama/yokohama_index.htm

immediately made me think of this:

http://www.mirage.com/restaurants/stack.aspx


its interior only, not structural...

those are some good examples
but how does the yokohama port terminal exemplify extreme ergonomics?

and i wish i can see more of the mirage restaurant

are not what you are talking about

I think you might be thinking more of materiality as a type of affordance (JJ Gibson).

However, this video of Andrea Branzi's Vertical Home seems to be what you are talking about.

Yokohama is definitely Ergonomics. When up-scaling Ergonomics to Architecture, the Architecture must be programme driven. Yokohama is pure programme. As Ergonomics is the analysis of human (capabilities, biases, frailties and their impact on) behaviour, and how to design the world (of physical geometry, information and human engagement) into line with the individual.

What I mean to say is that using the material system to define the space is explicitly not Ergonomics. Ergonomics is a system of analysis and design deriving from a knowledge of the human, and the ways of improving the interface between the pure, naked, human and the objective contents of the world.

Human-driven. Responding to the human.

Sorry:

improving the interface between the pure, naked, human and the objective [i]and intellectual and social[i] contents of the world

^ much better than i would have said

How about the Layer House by Hiroaki Ohtani? It's constructed of thin precast concrete slabs stacked on top of one another, with plug in furniture, timber boards forming stairs etc.



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that extreme ergonomics is extremely vague...something like that MArch

Try again with an image...

You might also like this one: Bryghusgrunden Project by OMA in Copenhagen,

hhhm...

so how we explain the concept of the final wooden house by Sou Fujimoto?

I think you're right, maybe im defining it in the wrong way.
I think it's too late for me to change a different kind of sensibility.
I am confused and spaced out on what extreme ergonomics can produce.

what is that darren hodgson and in your opinion why did you use that image to define extreme erogonomics

also that video is not working for me

I think you should work on your definition before you abstract the title. i.e. the name of the method of the production is not a method of production.

Extreme Ergonomics for me would be along the lines of the cyborg Kevin Warwick, and driving his environment to respond to his internal states. States that could be unknown to his conscious self, i.e. bypassing his consciousness through intimate measurement and wiring that physiological/psychological information straight to his building control system.

One could sleep without sheets if the room knew your body temperature.
If the room knew the level of pressure in your bowels, it could flip the seat up or down before you arrived.
etc.

I think the direction I am trying to aim for this project is along the lines of the Sou Fujimoto house that was posted earlier and the layering house by Hiroaki Ohtani.

is it to safe that these houses were driven with an "ergonomical" mind or is that a wrong term?

versatility? comfortability?

vyan, I think darren is responding to your response for images of stacking (as am I with the OMA image).

And now you are confusing me.

The video doesn't work for you... conceptually? technically?



The idea that slab stacking bears any relation to ergonomics is whimsy. You'll get torn apart in crit if you can't show some logic.

and pysharch could you explain the "ergonomics" with the OMA example you provided?

^ that's what im scared of psyarch.
I don't think I have this strong logic to this idea of "extreme ergonomics"

I am confusing myself too. I can't install the missing plugin to watch the video that's what I am saying.

Psyarch..in your opinion..
if i asked you to design a residential house with the sensibility of
"extreme ergonomics" through some material and with a material operation, how one might achieve that?

To tell you the truth vyan I didn't read your post properly and really just focused on the slab stacking, the Layer house immediately came to mind.

Probably should read a bit more thoroughly before I post. However, after actually reading the posts and the responses, I think the layer house is a good example of structure defining how a space is effectively used. Compare the wooden house for example to the layer house and you have two extremes of structure influencing use.

The wooden house seeks to portray itself as a living space, when in reality it is uncomfortable, dangerous and impractical as a long term environment to exist within, in my opinion this displays poor ergonomic qualities. The Layer house on the other hand seeks to create usable living space within a set matrices of structure, i'm not sure if it is the case but it gives the appearance that the the ability to adapt is instrinsicly built into the structure. There appears to be an element of comfort and livability.

I'm not sure there is such a thing as extreme ergonomics, ergonomics as I understand it (and I'm sure I will be corrected if I am wrong) is the study of efficiency within a particular environment. Can efficiency really be taken to the 'extreme'?

vyan - I did not present OMA's project in relation to ergonomics. I presented it as an alternative answer to your initial question about stacking.

I'm starting to tire of this. Your stacking/packing question is part one of a two part exercise, yes?

Design a residential project that

a) employs effective stacking/packing techniques to create effective servicing of the units without compromising view and loss of space to circulation

AND

b) Explores the possibilities of Extreme Ergonomics


Or similar?

part a) see AHMM
part b) Read some books.

i always use ergonomics to mean the purposeful design of form to match human limitations and body plan in order to maximize comfort and safety.

like lumbar support in a chair. not having lumbar support in a chair would mean it is not ergonomic. sou's house, while provocative, is not ergonomic, but the opposite. it is about making people uncomfortable because it looks cool. also an example of what happens when a single idea drives design irregardless of common sense. I LOVE it. it's pure, it's clean, its entirely clear as a theme, but it isn't ergonomic.

yokohama ferry terminal as ergonomics blown up is very intriguing. i think you could be right.

Indeed, Sou Fujimoto's Final Wooden House is wonderful. It was also winner of the Private House category in last week's inaugural World Architecture Festival. But, as jump says, Ergonomics did not feature much in its design process.

thanks for the clarification.

to psyarch- we're not constricted on the use of stacking. were open to any of kind of operations with these 3 materials
1. shell
2. slabs.
3. frames
and with choosing one material, apply an operation that will achieve a sensibility. So.. in the beginning, when I thought ergonomics was my own definition, I decided to find a operation that could achiev ergonomics. I guess putting "extreme" is too strong to use.

what particular project by AHMM should I be looking at?


so I guess I shouldn't use the term "ergonomics", but I idea is similar to Fujimoto, providing a "versatile" space per say.

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