Does anyone know a good script for creating an eggcrate model in rhino? i.e. having one set of ribs in the X direction, one set of ribs in the Y direction, and notches where they intersect to allow them to overlap.
I am currently in the middle of a model with 23 ribs and 160 some intersections, searching for a better way.
But sorry -- I realy want to kill that Brick and the silli Eggcreate word, eggcreates newer made anything but paper things to carry eggs, and when you see em, you think, "what shuld that share with 3dh ???
No eggcrates was acturly ever made by naking a Solid model and then make a program slice it into frames, -- that's just a silli word someone use who forgot it's name is 3dh.
Remember there are no limitations to 3dh , there actuely are to eggcreates.
I guess my thread got 'hijacked'... all well and good, but now all I've learned is that the real name for what I've been working on is "3D-H" and not egg crate, but still not if there is a good rhino script for it.
It seems to me that the scripting necessary to create such a program would be rather complex, seeing as how the program would need to know many variables such as the thickness of the material, orientation and spacing of the ribs, and the depth of the notches to allow them to lock over each other.
Per, I read your article explaining your technique for 3D-H, and while I follow the method and theory behind it, I am lost on the practicality aspect. I have a hard time believing that a structure like the plywood "tent" you show in several renderings would be able to stand if cut strictly from plywood sheet stock. Depending on scale, these ribs would need to be anywhere from an inch to several inches in thickness, either requiring custom thickness plywood/glulam type stock or many layers of ply bolted or glued together. Also, what would the enclosure for such a system be? Look at Zaha's latest project in the Swiss Alps- the Cable Railroad stations- and see that such a structure, when it becomes overly curved, i.e. in more than 2 dimentions, the cladding becomes both rediculiously complex and extrordinarily expensive. I feel personally that the method of 3dh is most likely best left to the scale of models and installations, not necessarily entire buildings.
Also, all- why does everyone keep referring to me as 'some kid?'
PodZilla, if you do a "3dh" search on this discussion board, it'll take up a lot of your time and probably give you a couple of life lessons. But I don't think you'll get an answer to your original question here. Sorry, but it seems to be a Pavlovian response for everyone here to act like slobbering, happy dogs when presented with a question like that. Good luck with that.
yeah, and um, sorry for not actually helping you out with your thread question. i don't have any experience with scripting, so i wouldn't know how to help. but good luck.
PodZilla I will not torture you as much as the rest of the board know me ,
Only a litttle --- belive me, 3dh work fine , only trouble ,as yoy say, is that no script is avaible to generate one, is avaible yet. But emagibe there was m and as many pointed out, 3dh is not that different ,and in fact very little has to be addedm case you realy think it need a third plane or some gadged to "anchor" the framework . In fact just adding a surface and secure just a few rigid glue points, will create the most efficient box structure you would ever ask for.
So please think about is, how handy it could be , knowing 3dh as a basic option case you has a 3D model , and just want to build it.
None of the trivial taking the structure apart into standard profilesm no limits about what to design, each and every piece that will assemble into the item , is calculated with exact measures -- what is realy so bad about it, compared the gains ? And those are huge gains !
Yet how difficult can a script be --- even from sections crossing , it is so easy to measure ine row as halve notches open from top, the other row notches open from bottom --- and case uou print it as isometric , you will have the markings drawn out allreadym then halve it , and cut the notch ........... Guess you lost me there , bur frankly, this is so simple, that the paralell in tradisional drafting, are kindergarden .
Sorry I forgot your question, but again --- think about it, this 3dh is only "difficult" by silli details , details that when you realise how advanced it realy are compared the tradisional, and in fact much nore difficult but accepted methods, make you realise how smart it acturly are, to be able to draw out the lot, by in fact just a push of a button.
Remember how complicated the tradisional methods in fact are, compared thei that ontop work by 3D and 3D drawings, with your computer for heaven sake, and without manual fiddeling.
This board really is just like a bunch of architects sitting in a room isn't it? We started on the topic of rhino scripting, then ended up talking about fancy t-shirt graphics. amazing!
If you can paint over a projected image, you're an artist ! If you can push a button, you can create architecture ! It really IS the twenty-first century, isn't it. . .
"f you can paint over a projected image, you're an artist !"
If you ever tried myou would know it's not just like that, but if you can make a bad poster of marilyn monroe -- oops wrong color, _then you are a painter , case you do like the famous renacaince painters ; then do it as how Leonardo did it, with a parabolic mirror -- ot work almost as a magic lantern , the favourite tool for pencil drafters make sure you has some sort of magic lantern --- but try it SDR ; all that'll happen is that you shaddow for yourself, and when you move away , not to shaddow you will be surprised, surprised that you can't tell the difference where, and where you did not paint. -- Just try it.
Try it , or try open your mind , open a book and realise how these tools was allways used. Before they used glass optics and black boxes , they had parabol reflectors and painted the neat details upside down but, don't think it's as easy as that --- I develobed my own masters tools that is true , but you can't emagine this ask preparation ,newer heard .
Sad btw, you see , I think you missed to realise that these are acturly lovely paintings.
"If you can push a button, you can create architecture ! "
Oh no, if you know a program as AutoCAD in and out, if you know how to reakise something no one ever thought about beforem case you spended halve your life studying a number of crafts to master most of them --- Then you can be a designer.
Offcaurse , it is easier to make a paper drawing, and ask some skilled workers to translate it -- then you are an architect.
Egg Crating
Does anyone know a good script for creating an eggcrate model in rhino? i.e. having one set of ribs in the X direction, one set of ribs in the Y direction, and notches where they intersect to allow them to overlap.
I am currently in the middle of a model with 23 ribs and 160 some intersections, searching for a better way.
Any help appreciated.
Uh oh.
my only advice is that you get a nice, long playlist dialed in and a comfortable set of headphones.
Oh sweet jesus...
Just when we though the 3DH onslaught had passed.
outsource it to india?
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
yeeesssssss!!! i've been waiting for a good 3dh thread!
better put on a pot of coffee!
^ LOL
what's 3dh?
where has per been?...i want to see per type 'acturly'
c'mon per, school this kid
people called romani they go the house?
Beg pardon, what is 3dh and what does it have to do with my current problem?
GAH - he said it out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ixnay on the dh3ay....
Oh Perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Come out! Come out wherever you are!
Do you mean, like this?
At your service ;
Acturly I am now Gardin Kunstner . Stakit Kolorist , selfmade Rullegardin Instalatør Please look in my web Galleri ;
www.ArtWanted.com/PC
But sorry -- I realy want to kill that Brick and the silli Eggcreate word, eggcreates newer made anything but paper things to carry eggs, and when you see em, you think, "what shuld that share with 3dh ???
No eggcrates was acturly ever made by naking a Solid model and then make a program slice it into frames, -- that's just a silli word someone use who forgot it's name is 3dh.
Remember there are no limitations to 3dh , there actuely are to eggcreates.
[url=http://www.ArtWanted.com/?RID=3401&B=aw_88x31h]<img
src="http://www.ArtWanted.com/button.cfm?RID=3401&B=aw_88x31h" border=0 alt="ArtWanted.com">[/url]
Sorry my foult -- 3DH in chinese ;
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/kineserier-2.jpg
Acturly enough for today.
"any help appriciated"
Full story;
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/h-3d/
More the fancy graphics , try the foto folders in these groups ;
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=3d+honeycomb
Yay!
Huzzah!
3DH FTW!
ROFL! I never imagined in a million years I would be laughing at per hijacking some kids thread but hey.
Now where is that pot of coffee DatC made?
yeeessssssss!!!
he's back!
apurimac, sugar or cream or both?
Dark with a little sugar please.
help
I guess my thread got 'hijacked'... all well and good, but now all I've learned is that the real name for what I've been working on is "3D-H" and not egg crate, but still not if there is a good rhino script for it.
It seems to me that the scripting necessary to create such a program would be rather complex, seeing as how the program would need to know many variables such as the thickness of the material, orientation and spacing of the ribs, and the depth of the notches to allow them to lock over each other.
Per, I read your article explaining your technique for 3D-H, and while I follow the method and theory behind it, I am lost on the practicality aspect. I have a hard time believing that a structure like the plywood "tent" you show in several renderings would be able to stand if cut strictly from plywood sheet stock. Depending on scale, these ribs would need to be anywhere from an inch to several inches in thickness, either requiring custom thickness plywood/glulam type stock or many layers of ply bolted or glued together. Also, what would the enclosure for such a system be? Look at Zaha's latest project in the Swiss Alps- the Cable Railroad stations- and see that such a structure, when it becomes overly curved, i.e. in more than 2 dimentions, the cladding becomes both rediculiously complex and extrordinarily expensive. I feel personally that the method of 3dh is most likely best left to the scale of models and installations, not necessarily entire buildings.
Also, all- why does everyone keep referring to me as 'some kid?'
"I feel personally that the method of 3dh is most likely best left to the scale of models and installations, not necessarily entire buildings. "
Get the fuck out of the goddamned thread!
PodZilla, if you do a "3dh" search on this discussion board, it'll take up a lot of your time and probably give you a couple of life lessons. But I don't think you'll get an answer to your original question here. Sorry, but it seems to be a Pavlovian response for everyone here to act like slobbering, happy dogs when presented with a question like that. Good luck with that.
it's cuz you're new.
3dh and per corell have a loooooonnnngggg history on this board.
just look @ this thread. (there are many others like it here, but this is the OG one.)
yeah, and um, sorry for not actually helping you out with your thread question. i don't have any experience with scripting, so i wouldn't know how to help. but good luck.
don't give it away that easy DatC, let him learn like the rest of us.
Its a journey of discovery I tell ya.
Pre-Raphaelites rock. Thanks, a-f.
PodZilla I will not torture you as much as the rest of the board know me ,
Only a litttle --- belive me, 3dh work fine , only trouble ,as yoy say, is that no script is avaible to generate one, is avaible yet. But emagibe there was m and as many pointed out, 3dh is not that different ,and in fact very little has to be addedm case you realy think it need a third plane or some gadged to "anchor" the framework . In fact just adding a surface and secure just a few rigid glue points, will create the most efficient box structure you would ever ask for.
So please think about is, how handy it could be , knowing 3dh as a basic option case you has a 3D model , and just want to build it.
None of the trivial taking the structure apart into standard profilesm no limits about what to design, each and every piece that will assemble into the item , is calculated with exact measures -- what is realy so bad about it, compared the gains ? And those are huge gains !
Yet how difficult can a script be --- even from sections crossing , it is so easy to measure ine row as halve notches open from top, the other row notches open from bottom --- and case uou print it as isometric , you will have the markings drawn out allreadym then halve it , and cut the notch ........... Guess you lost me there , bur frankly, this is so simple, that the paralell in tradisional drafting, are kindergarden .
Sorry I forgot your question, but again --- think about it, this 3dh is only "difficult" by silli details , details that when you realise how advanced it realy are compared the tradisional, and in fact much nore difficult but accepted methods, make you realise how smart it acturly are, to be able to draw out the lot, by in fact just a push of a button.
Remember how complicated the tradisional methods in fact are, compared thei that ontop work by 3D and 3D drawings, with your computer for heaven sake, and without manual fiddeling.
Did I answer your question ?
Acturly for them who don't understand 3dh, I has made some paintings to enjoy instead.
Sorry, I acturly again forgot, that even 640x380 is to gross fot this board.
No limits avaible in this century for 3dh !
^^ I think this should be the winner of the fancy graphics T-shirt contest.
This board really is just like a bunch of architects sitting in a room isn't it? We started on the topic of rhino scripting, then ended up talking about fancy t-shirt graphics. amazing!
I think that should be the new tag line:
Archinect: just a bunch of architects sitting in a room.
765,
I second that!
try the surface rib generator that LUIS F. (from LaN) putted together for the kids at IaaC (BCN) lately.... http://www.iaacblog.com/scripting/
"fancy t-shirt graphics. amazing!"
I am no architect ;
I am Gardin Kunstner , Stakit Kolorist, Rullegardin Instalatør,
I make Gardinkunst , Plankeværkskunst, Rullegadinkunst.
Almost forgot ; I Kill The Brick !
podzilla, that's exactly what it's like.
If you can paint over a projected image, you're an artist ! If you can push a button, you can create architecture ! It really IS the twenty-first century, isn't it. . .
very cool, thanks for that link MAD!
"f you can paint over a projected image, you're an artist !"
If you ever tried myou would know it's not just like that, but if you can make a bad poster of marilyn monroe -- oops wrong color, _then you are a painter , case you do like the famous renacaince painters ; then do it as how Leonardo did it, with a parabolic mirror -- ot work almost as a magic lantern , the favourite tool for pencil drafters make sure you has some sort of magic lantern --- but try it SDR ; all that'll happen is that you shaddow for yourself, and when you move away , not to shaddow you will be surprised, surprised that you can't tell the difference where, and where you did not paint. -- Just try it.
Try it , or try open your mind , open a book and realise how these tools was allways used. Before they used glass optics and black boxes , they had parabol reflectors and painted the neat details upside down but, don't think it's as easy as that --- I develobed my own masters tools that is true , but you can't emagine this ask preparation ,newer heard .
Sad btw, you see , I think you missed to realise that these are acturly lovely paintings.
"If you can push a button, you can create architecture ! "
Oh no, if you know a program as AutoCAD in and out, if you know how to reakise something no one ever thought about beforem case you spended halve your life studying a number of crafts to master most of them --- Then you can be a designer.
Offcaurse , it is easier to make a paper drawing, and ask some skilled workers to translate it -- then you are an architect.
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