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Eisenman debates Wolf D Prix at a crit -- Google Video

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gesundheit.

Oct 17, 07 4:44 pm  · 
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strlt_typ

that's literature...

Oct 17, 07 4:51 pm  · 
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...and he subliminally means Barberini.

Oct 17, 07 6:36 pm  · 
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vado retro
Oct 17, 07 9:11 pm  · 
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SDR

Professor Frink !

Oct 17, 07 9:22 pm  · 
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Just for the record, that's me on a bad day. I was having Fußball nightmares. And who the vuck is this Vanity Express manhole!?

This Eisenman guy is the shit. You know it's all kode---gotta skip words/yeah the shit.

Force texts. Inforce texts. It's like bubble burst genius if you know what I mean/extreme.

Lustgarten is like my GREEN porn. That and S/Z.

Oct 17, 07 9:43 pm  · 
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SDR

Per ?

Oct 17, 07 9:47 pm  · 
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Yeah, $2500 per hour. But I'm usually already busy.

Oct 17, 07 9:50 pm  · 
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Apurimac

Vado you should publish a theory book, seriously. You can bullshit amazingly well, I am in awe.

Oct 17, 07 9:53 pm  · 
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vado retro

kids today they don't a spartiate from a Perioeci. jeesh...

Oct 17, 07 10:15 pm  · 
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oe
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NQBlZIXu3Yg
Oct 18, 07 1:05 am  · 
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citizen4nr

I know the winner wasnt me. I want those 5 minutes of my life back. If you put enough monkeys in a room, the amount of shit they'll throw around will still be a better crit than eisenman.

Oct 18, 07 1:00 pm  · 
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Arjun Bhat

to the person who asked who the guy sitting behind peter e was ...

that would be Mark Goulthorpe

Nov 4, 07 11:35 am  · 
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evilplatypus

Im late to the discussion but - a couple things really struck a nerve with me here. Eiseman says something about how just because you live in a house you dont know architecture. This statement more than anything reinforces the age old and correct stereotype of the architect as being elitist, but more than that its a sly statement of his personal feelings on vernacular architypes I believe. Hes calling her out, quite literally as Bourgiose. What he fails to realize is that all his body of work, some which I had to study in the 90's, is already becoming a forgotten chapter in pop culture history. I recall some planes, they were white, and he wrote some archibabble I may have read but really dont care to remember anymore. To be honest, i thought he was dead until I saw the clip. 99% of structures built in $trillion industry are based on method, techniques of the vernacular. Eiseman in reality, means nothing, because Eisaman doesnt exist in reality.

The second thing that really got me was the showmanship. His gestures and bending of his torso take the focus off the project and presenter and on to him. no doubt he is a master salesman. You have to be to own a business. But theres also a certain insecurity that comes through in his repeated attempts to get Wolf Prix to validate his statements. The presenting girl should have picked up on this and used it against him by interjecting at his comparisons to bermanti and explained either why or why not her project followed or did not follow western classical proportions. I saw an old man trying to defend his career against a studio class taught by a brilliant technician and an enviroment he doesnt quite understand.

To the kids - you pay for this time - you are not forced to listen to a visiting critic speak endlessly. Interject and ask why - make them explaine themselves and do not let them pontificate to you, make them critique.

Nov 4, 07 1:19 pm  · 
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PerCorell

Just lost this text in another tread anyway for the poor student here it is ;

Yes poor Student , but the guy are right the Dome are a serious problem in architecture schools, been so since it was interduced, but this don't make the perfect lecturer either --- instead where the student who proberly are supposed to learn from this, could gain some masters tricks, then no better suggestion to the Geostatic dome is not prone, -- even 3dh would have been there for a decade allready. This become a discussion about not knowing ; why don't he say "Tell me about it" , ---- in one way I would like a better audio quality, but then, been there know these guy's. Sad in a way as it's time architecture decide how to use the computer ; the old fasion way , by mimicing old methods or oldfasionn thinking into more and more specialised CAD applications, or make a revolution in architecture and production.

In that situation, you must aproach things right.

Nov 4, 07 1:34 pm  · 
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evilplatypus

based on the crude model at the begining of the clip Per, I think its an undergrad possibly 3rd year crit at the start of a semester. I doubt thats a final presentation.

Nov 4, 07 1:44 pm  · 
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PerCorell

Also , as architecture don't nessery are the end occupation, say it realy are so so bad architecture, then wouldn't it be just the quality to find a better way to direct the student to a better choice, in any case you shuld know that these projects are special, some save them for years , others know to get rid of them and how, but when people pay like that, atleast some delivery in architecture are payed for,and it is difficult to me to reconise any. Even the documented oppionions about the dome master are doubtvious , --- what do this guy know about Domes or doorway's , what he say about "entering" a dome say everything , seem's he in some intelectural recursive standby about those matters, and ontop he don't even reconise other way's to make a dome, than the way he don't master.

Nov 4, 07 1:54 pm  · 
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