Chops- Dont worry yet!! I dont think that really says anything about your potential admission status! It could just be a weird glitch. But jeeeez that sucks! Is that you who just me on flickr too btw? I noticed it was someone from South Africa.
in the words of a professor I had as an undergrad commenting on Ali Rahim's work: "Why not just build a forty story chicken? Instead it's a tower of bras. Its like, why bother?"
hah, yeah im torn between those two worlds though. I like purty computerized things as much as the nice guy. professor kipnis had plenty of interesting points to corroborate the use of such design techniques. on the otherhand its hard to deny history/what actually DOES work. who knows. guess thats what grad school's for
I've heard nada. getting a bad feeling about uva though.
My perspective is a bit different coming from a non-arch background, though our city planning dept was in the architecture dept, so we had the same dean, most of the same profs, but our approach was more geared to making communities for people. This was the focus, not simply to make a cool statement, so urban design is really etched in my approach to architecture...really think the grad program in architecture will be great...I still think buildings can be good for communities and still be unconventional in design.
futurist, I understand that perspective man. My undergrad, although it was arch, the scale of the projects were so large they were on the scale, almost, of urban planning. So for us, as with yourself, less emphasis was placed on how pretty/cool the thing looked as an isolated object ... and more about its function in a much larger network of things, blah, blah, etc.
My program really pushed the New Urbanist approach to urban design - so projects featured at dpz.com were the ideal.
Buildings front the street.
Parking is hidden or underground.
The orientation of the building is dependent on how it works with the street, including the terrain, climate, for instance.
Etc.
what was it that my teacher said about New Urbanism....that it is actually, in a way, "Old Urbanism"...
anyway, I consider Duany's work to have a lot of merit, i worked under one of his initiates last year. I don;t necessarily like all the white picket fences and abundance of rich white people that populate NU hoods, but there are good things about zoning adjustments. especially higher density ones with comunal motivations.
yeah "old" stuff sucks. kinda like how were are "inventing" passive cooling systems as if islamic/indonesian cultures haven't been using it for thousands of years already.
I didn't apply to a lot of schools this first time around, more than anything just putting my bread upon the water.
UNL (Lincoln, NE)
Iowa State
Kent
My family and I have lived in dense, urban cities (that I love) for so long that we are kind of attracted to the Midwest and an open landscape for a change.
We'll see... still open to other schools near the coast.
...And I agree, New Urbanism has its drawbacks, but it's basically drawing on the elements of how cities and communities used to be designed...for people. Before postwar creations where the automobile began to have its own master bedroom...bleh.
i would agree that new urbanism can offer some postive attributes to todays communities..... but it is playing into the socialist agenda for america. nu doesn't help local bussinesses as it claims, nor does provide for lower levels of income. i will admitt that it is better than most alternatives.
i was also in a school pushing the nu realm, and it didn't quite sit well with me. its in part why i would like to go to grad school. nu is a buzzword just as notable as 'smart growth', urban sprawl' ect. i'm not trying to knock on dpz (well not too much) but i do find it unoriginal. i'd love for someone to step up and create communties that respond to the land and the people, and not to the politics and everchanging market... ha i must dreaming!?
I know what you mean. Unfortunately a lof of the approaches to urban design and city planning have been hijacked by leftists like the rest of academia. And they have taken ideas from models that began with euro-socialist frameworks... It gets sticky when the project gets all political with planning commissions trying to equalize everything.
I'm not championing the NU model but there are some very good points about it, and which are drawn from some of America's earliest communities. From a design/human scale/pedestrian standpoint - it makes sense and is completely the right way to go. I'd take an NU neighborhood anyday over some urban sprawl housing development that crops up in two months.
Now look at New England and the narrow streets (that are not horrendous cul-de-sacs that turn on themselves), the recessed or detatched garages, the variable architectural materials (not just siding and stucco) and the orientation of the buildings, they have porches that have walkways that come to the sidwalk, not to the driveway, they have buffers between the street, with trees not just a curb dropping off into asphalt.
Like everything, you have to weigh the good with the bad.
i agree with you.... weigh the good with the bad. i'm from new england and love the aspects which you have described. however, i am now in charleston, sc.... a beautiful city full of historic precedent. they also have a lot of cheap land and awful development. and i am ready to get out of here. the south is depressing me as a designer. off to a big city.... or charlottesville....whomever accepts me and gives me money!
i remember reading about michigan sending strange things in previous years too...something like pink toy cars? i could be totally off on this though; my memory is kind of bad
aww I'm waiting to hear from UW too, but for landscape, and with not so optimistic thoughts...
congrats to smith and early! i'm excited for everyone finding out good news. hopefully this continues.
for those that have been accepted - when are they saying they want to know by? the one school i've been accepted to wants to know by march 23! seems really soon.
2008 M.Arch applicants, commiserate here!
ff33- Can you send me a link?
Chops- Dont worry yet!! I dont think that really says anything about your potential admission status! It could just be a weird glitch. But jeeeez that sucks! Is that you who just me on flickr too btw? I noticed it was someone from South Africa.
haha ya, it's me :)
was JUST writing you a flickrmail to let you know.
chopsky - call them about it.
yeh, I'm going to. Just waiting for admissions lady to finish with her luncheon.
A V
link
AV
I have already heard and read so many criticisms, and i don't care..i am still inspired by this stuff.
...but there are so many other cool things at sciARC that impress as well, not all of which are so , uh , "weird"
in the words of a professor I had as an undergrad commenting on Ali Rahim's work: "Why not just build a forty story chicken? Instead it's a tower of bras. Its like, why bother?"
Asbuck,
I knew you would be chiming in here...:-) too bad i am not in the mood to debate digital tectonics.
Anyway, so have YOU heard anything yet?
..a tower of bras indeed,LOL
hah, yeah im torn between those two worlds though. I like purty computerized things as much as the nice guy. professor kipnis had plenty of interesting points to corroborate the use of such design techniques. on the otherhand its hard to deny history/what actually DOES work. who knows. guess thats what grad school's for
I've heard nada. getting a bad feeling about uva though.
My perspective is a bit different coming from a non-arch background, though our city planning dept was in the architecture dept, so we had the same dean, most of the same profs, but our approach was more geared to making communities for people. This was the focus, not simply to make a cool statement, so urban design is really etched in my approach to architecture...really think the grad program in architecture will be great...I still think buildings can be good for communities and still be unconventional in design.
fuiturist
do you have an example you would like to share?
futurist, I understand that perspective man. My undergrad, although it was arch, the scale of the projects were so large they were on the scale, almost, of urban planning. So for us, as with yourself, less emphasis was placed on how pretty/cool the thing looked as an isolated object ... and more about its function in a much larger network of things, blah, blah, etc.
well, I just spoke to the lady in admissions. apparently the admissions results were posted prematurely by accident.
but yeh, I am admitted...good times... :)
YAYYYY Congrats again chops! I wish I could call all my schools and get an anwser out of them that easily.
sweet.
what school was this for again? congrats chop
Thanks AV :)
I'm suprised you've already received your letter of acceptance?
She said the letters were only going out in the next couple of weeks.
I'd say "hope to see you there", but it sounds like you're reallyset on the west coast.
ff03 -
My program really pushed the New Urbanist approach to urban design - so projects featured at dpz.com were the ideal.
Buildings front the street.
Parking is hidden or underground.
The orientation of the building is dependent on how it works with the street, including the terrain, climate, for instance.
Etc.
where did you apply , futurist?
Chops - I didn't recieve the official letter yet. Only an email.
futurist -
but how did you generate form?
dpz = truman show. they cater to the rich and unimaginative
calm down che
what was it that my teacher said about New Urbanism....that it is actually, in a way, "Old Urbanism"...
anyway, I consider Duany's work to have a lot of merit, i worked under one of his initiates last year. I don;t necessarily like all the white picket fences and abundance of rich white people that populate NU hoods, but there are good things about zoning adjustments. especially higher density ones with comunal motivations.
yeah "old" stuff sucks. kinda like how were are "inventing" passive cooling systems as if islamic/indonesian cultures haven't been using it for thousands of years already.
ff03 -
I didn't apply to a lot of schools this first time around, more than anything just putting my bread upon the water.
UNL (Lincoln, NE)
Iowa State
Kent
My family and I have lived in dense, urban cities (that I love) for so long that we are kind of attracted to the Midwest and an open landscape for a change.
We'll see... still open to other schools near the coast.
dont go to kent state
...And I agree, New Urbanism has its drawbacks, but it's basically drawing on the elements of how cities and communities used to be designed...for people. Before postwar creations where the automobile began to have its own master bedroom...bleh.
i would agree that new urbanism can offer some postive attributes to todays communities..... but it is playing into the socialist agenda for america. nu doesn't help local bussinesses as it claims, nor does provide for lower levels of income. i will admitt that it is better than most alternatives.
i was also in a school pushing the nu realm, and it didn't quite sit well with me. its in part why i would like to go to grad school. nu is a buzzword just as notable as 'smart growth', urban sprawl' ect. i'm not trying to knock on dpz (well not too much) but i do find it unoriginal. i'd love for someone to step up and create communties that respond to the land and the people, and not to the politics and everchanging market... ha i must dreaming!?
uhhg sorry for the intense convo.... the wait is agonizing
mid march hurry up and come
whenever a good idea comes along there will always be someone there to exploit it. welcome to real life.
bcn -
I know what you mean. Unfortunately a lof of the approaches to urban design and city planning have been hijacked by leftists like the rest of academia. And they have taken ideas from models that began with euro-socialist frameworks... It gets sticky when the project gets all political with planning commissions trying to equalize everything.
I'm not championing the NU model but there are some very good points about it, and which are drawn from some of America's earliest communities. From a design/human scale/pedestrian standpoint - it makes sense and is completely the right way to go. I'd take an NU neighborhood anyday over some urban sprawl housing development that crops up in two months.
Now look at New England and the narrow streets (that are not horrendous cul-de-sacs that turn on themselves), the recessed or detatched garages, the variable architectural materials (not just siding and stucco) and the orientation of the buildings, they have porches that have walkways that come to the sidwalk, not to the driveway, they have buffers between the street, with trees not just a curb dropping off into asphalt.
Like everything, you have to weigh the good with the bad.
futurist,
i agree with you.... weigh the good with the bad. i'm from new england and love the aspects which you have described. however, i am now in charleston, sc.... a beautiful city full of historic precedent. they also have a lot of cheap land and awful development. and i am ready to get out of here. the south is depressing me as a designer. off to a big city.... or charlottesville....whomever accepts me and gives me money!
bcn -
I'm with you.. admitted to an M.ARCH and a nice financial aid package.
hey guys...just got a crazy acceptance package from michigan! it's a red letter day!
+ 25K a year scholarship? that's strange.
strange and awesome, way to go smith!
the package came wrapped in a lab coat. that's even more strange.
haha wow, that's awesome. congrats
congrats! that's cool
Congrats, Smith, on both accounts!
Got into UW in Seattle today. Yay!
damn you all who are getting their letters so soon...
uh I mean congratulations!
EarlyPM - congrats on seattle! did you get an email/phonecall?? I'm dying to hear from them!
Thanks, very happy about this one...got a phone call today around 1:00. He mentioned an open house, probably in the first week of April.
You'll get yours soon, I'll bet. It's still so early.
i remember reading about michigan sending strange things in previous years too...something like pink toy cars? i could be totally off on this though; my memory is kind of bad
aww I'm waiting to hear from UW too, but for landscape, and with not so optimistic thoughts...
congrats!!
Congratulation everyone! Exciting news.
Yeah, I heard UMich sent a pair of engineering calipers or something like that last year. Seems to be a thing with them.
EarlyPM COOL! there is a friend of mine as exchange as me.
Amazing weeeeek!
I just saw at thegradcafe.com this:
Parsons New School Of Design
Architecture, Masters Accepted via Phone on 3 Mar 2008
Followed by email
They started to call people!
Who is applying to Parsons?
I've applied to Parsons.
congrats to smith and early! i'm excited for everyone finding out good news. hopefully this continues.
for those that have been accepted - when are they saying they want to know by? the one school i've been accepted to wants to know by march 23! seems really soon.
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