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What is the difference in how these two groups of people think?
Is there a significant difference or are they fighting twins?
I think we all know but are afraid to say.

 
Aug 8, 06 3:55 pm
le bossman

what the hell are these threads?

Aug 8, 06 4:07 pm  · 
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cf

Don't wrinkle the threads, man!

Aug 8, 06 4:08 pm  · 
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SuperBeatledud

Fuck off! I'm Jewish. Don't make me poke out your eyes.


Aug 8, 06 4:19 pm  · 
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the cellardoor whore

you can't wrinkle threads. you need breadth of surface. you have neither breadth or depth. "I think we all know".

i'm glad there is a virtual unediting of archinect. we can all say what we think o muslims jews and christians. but i'm after the fucking buddhists now.

" i'm no fucking buddhist but this is enlightenment" bjork

Aug 8, 06 4:20 pm  · 
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Carl Douglas (agfa8x)

mind the trolls

Aug 8, 06 4:33 pm  · 
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muslim girls are for muslim boys. but if you are nice...

Aug 8, 06 4:42 pm  · 
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I love the way this thread instantly 'unravelled' into farce.
What would happen if foreign policy had, as one of its imperatives, a sense of humour?

Aug 8, 06 5:58 pm  · 
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I couldn't resist clicking to see the 'relevant ads'
To spare you, it's one ad, for CAD training. Hallelujia for Western Capitalist wisdom.

Aug 8, 06 6:00 pm  · 
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thenewold

archinect does censor and filter. they wouldn't post an image I made depicting usama bin laden using the SOM freedom tower as a microphone......

Aug 8, 06 8:44 pm  · 
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Nevermore

Angelina jolie is buddhist and she's married to a very famous architect.

Aug 9, 06 5:20 am  · 
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the cellardoor whore

no fucking way? and autumn is my favourite season.

Aug 9, 06 6:41 am  · 
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Nevermore

a comparison I can think of

Eisenman = jew
hassan fathy = muslim

Eisenman makes shiny swanky metallic super-big buildings
Fathy= makes earthy, rustic ,mud-n-brick small dwellings.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and Brad Pitt makes zen type minimalistic star houses.
(cos his wife's a buddhist ).

Now im terrified of thinking , that what if Tom Cruise decides to become an architect.....I DONT want to see scientological buildings.

Aug 9, 06 8:08 am  · 
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BOTS

Angelina jolie - Buddhist, Star Architect.

I have never heard such a croc of shite, i thought I was logged in to Hello or OK magasine which I frequent often for all my celeb news.

As for Jew - Muslim. Enough already, no more to see here. Go look it up in Wiki!

Aug 9, 06 8:51 am  · 
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Nevermore

bots..how can you call this a "croc of shit " ?
for the love of God ,This is about Brad, Jolie and architecture !

Im deeply offended.



Aug 9, 06 9:18 am  · 
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cf

The Department of Standardization would like to thank each and everyone for your participation in the light and submission to the Standardization Process. It is a glorious day when the stars align on the process in which we are so rightfully engaged.
We at the Department have conferenced in many joint sessions, by our duly selected, self referenced leadership qualities, to provide standardization in every aspect of life for all who are and every noncompliant who will soon submit to become rightfully compliant Standardizers in the world at large. Today, the Department of Standardization would like to proclaim a new standard that has been long in the making and one that wil,l by the force that is the Standard, proclaim worldwide submission of total compliance.

Here stated:
Standard: 124127840qw098qv78_AIA_0785908715hdch17c.141.c1231234
The Department of Standardization is pleased to announce the god(s) of the Jews and Muslims are uniformly noncompliant. No provisions in the Standard have been made for a variance process to this glorious substandard.
The Department of Standardization is also pleased to announce religion by race and birth to be non compliant with no provisions in the Standard for a variance process to this glorious substandard.

This is indeed a bright and glorious day in this the Standardized world. Please celebrate with the Department by donating 24 standardized hours of your next weekend to your righteously, self selected employer in the name of Standard. Full submission through compliance by the force of will!!!!!!!!!

Aug 9, 06 11:14 am  · 
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treekiller

thanks for the standard!

wait a minute- isn't there just ONE islamo-christian-jewish god called yeweh (or whatever)? the one and the same?
So what is the difference??????

there is no difference!!!! except that people love to find insignificant differences like the star bellied sneetches to discriminate against the larger world.



THE SNEETCHES
by Dr. Suess

Now the Star-bellied Sneetches had bellies with stars.
The Plain-bellied Sneetches had none upon thars.
The stars weren't so big; they were really quite small.
You would think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
But because they had stars, all the Star-bellied Sneetches
would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches."

With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort, "
We'll have nothing to do with the plain-bellied sort."
And whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
they'd hike right on past them without even talking.

When the Star-bellied children went out to play ball,
could the Plain-bellies join in their game? Not at all!
You could only play ball if your bellies had stars,
and the Plain-bellied children had none upon thars.

When the Star-bellied Sneetches had frankfurter roasts,
or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
they never invited the Plain-bellied Sneetches.
Left them out cold in the dark of the beaches.
Kept them away; never let them come near,
and that's how they treated them year after year.

Then one day, it seems, while the Plain-bellied Sneetches
were moping, just moping alone on the beaches,
sitting there, wishing their bellies had stars,
up zipped a stranger in the strangest of cars.

"My friends, " he announced in a voice clear and keen,
"My name is Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
I've heard of your troubles; I've heard you're unhappy.
But I can fix that; I'm the fix-it-up chappie.
I've come here to help you; I have what you need.
My prices are low, and I work with great speed,
and my work is one hundred per cent guaranteed."

Then quickly, Sylvester McMonkey McBean
put together a very peculiar machine.
Then he said, "You want stars like a Star-bellied Sneetch?
My friends, you can have them . . . . for three dollars each.
Just hand me your money and climb on aboard."

They clambered inside and the big machine roared.
It bonked. It clonked. It jerked. It berked.
It bopped them around, but the thing really worked.
When the Plain-bellied Sneetches popped out, they had stars!
They actually did, they had stars upon thars!

Then they yelled at the ones who had stars from the start,
"We're exactly like you; you can't tell us apart.
We're all just the same now, you snooty old smarties.
Now we can come to your frankfurter parties!"

"Good grief!" groaned the one who had stars from the first.
"We're still the best Sneetches, and they are the worst.
But how in the world will we know," they all frowned,
"if which kind is what or the other way 'round?"

Then up stepped McBean with a very sly wink, and he said,
"Things are not quite as bad as you think.
You don't know who's who, that is perfectly true.
But come with me, friends, do you know what I'll do?
I'll make you again the best Sneetches on beaches,
and all it will cost you is ten dollars eaches.

Belly stars are no longer in style, " said McBean.
"What you need is a trip through my stars-off machine.
This wondrous contraption will take off your stars,
so you won't look like Sneetches who have them on thars."

That handy machine, working very precisely,
removed all the stars from their bellies quite nicely.
Then, with snoots in the air, they paraded about.
They opened their beaks and proceeded to shout,
"We now know who's who, and there isn't a doubt,
the best kind of Sneetches are Sneetches without."

Then, of course those with stars all got frightfully mad.
To be wearing a star now was frightfully bad.
Then, of course old Sylvester McMonkey McBean
invited them into his stars-off machine.
Then, of course from then on, you can probably guess,
things really got into a horrible mess.

All the rest of the day on those wild screaming beaches,
the Fix-it-up-Chappie was fixing up Sneetches.
Off again, on again, in again, out again,
through the machine and back round about again,
still paying money, still running through,
changing their stars every minute or two,
until neither the Plain- nor the Star-bellies knew
whether this one was that one or that one was this one
or which one was what one or what one was who!

Then, when every last cent of their money was spent,
the Fix-It-Up-Chappie packed up and he went.
And he laughed as he drove in his car up the beach,
"They never will learn; no, you can't teach a Sneetch!"

But McBean was quite wrong, I'm quite happy to say,
the Sneetches got quite a bit smarter that day.
That day, they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches,
and no kind of Sneetch is the BEST on the beaches.
That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars,
and whether they had one or not upon thars.

Aug 9, 06 12:16 pm  · 
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cf

You're joshen' me now ain't ya treekiller. Them Jews, Baptists, and Ay-rabs done all have the same learnen' from the same preach? Well i'll be. Ain't hurd none like that come this'n here way fur ny on a coons age. Don't gid me worng, ai't nud'n to be no skitterdy 'bout.

Aug 9, 06 1:56 pm  · 
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lol cf: that Standardization malarkey's apt to the nth degree

Aug 9, 06 2:08 pm  · 
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treekiller

Cf- yeah and abraham lived to '156 years old' in the days before modern medicine.

Aug 9, 06 4:04 pm  · 
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//./.
Aug 10, 06 9:43 am  · 
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hyperbody

hahah cool, is patrick a klansmen as well?

Aug 10, 06 10:39 am  · 
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the cellardoor whore

"Eisenman = jew
"hassan fathy = muslim

Eisenman makes shiny swanky metallic super-big buildings
Fathy= makes earthy, rustic ,mud-n-brick small dwellings."

zaha,hani rashid, farshid moussavi are all likely to be moslems; its funny that you would choose to contrast an avant garde jew with a traditionally minded moslem. typically orientalist.

the nuances of even the seemingly liberal.

Aug 10, 06 4:25 pm  · 
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Nevermore

whore--i like hassan fathy's work more than eisenman's .there was no contrast, just unconscious admiration.

and besides ..fathy's nose is better than eisenman's



p.s :im not a racist, i hate everyone equally.

Aug 10, 06 5:07 pm  · 
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Nevermore

lasly: im also not a fuckin 'orientalist'..whatever that may mean.
just as you arent an ' americanist' or an 'europeanist'.
hope thats clear, sistah !


Aug 10, 06 5:19 pm  · 
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evilplatypus

Theres not much difference. Every year I have my muslim and jewish friends over for ham sandwiches while we decorate my Christmas tree.

Aug 10, 06 10:21 pm  · 
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vado retro

written by mr. henry ford of model t fame...

Aug 11, 06 1:11 am  · 
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abracadabra

i am a bastard jew-muslim, jesus is my illegitimate deadbeat father and i like my ham and cheese sandwich with mayo, thank you.

Aug 11, 06 2:12 am  · 
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upside

washed down with a beer

Aug 11, 06 2:20 am  · 
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Sotthi

They are both so beautiful, so difficult to say...


the beautiful people, the beautiful people
it's all relative to the size of your steeple
you can't see the forest for the trees
you can't smell your own shit on your knees

Hey you, what do you see?
something beautiful, something free?
hey you, are you trying to be mean?
if you live with apes man, it's hard to be clean

there's no time to discriminate,
hate every motherfucker
that's in your way
the worms will live in every host
it's hard to pick which one they eat most

the horrible people, the horrible people
it's as anatomic as the size of your steeple
capitalism has made it this way,
old-fashioned fascism will take it away...

love the tribute version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGR-0t_-53s

Aug 11, 06 10:56 am  · 
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evilplatypus

eat a ham sanwich

Aug 11, 06 11:13 am  · 
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Sotthi

cf:> What is the difference in how these two groups of people think?
Is there a significant difference or are they fighting twins?
I think we all know but are afraid to say.


Lets see.


What Jewish Scripture Teaches —

"And we utterly destroyed them ... the men, women and children,
of every city." — Deuteronomy 3:6

" But ADONAI thy God ... shall destroy them with a mighty
destruction, until they be destroyed." — Ibid., 7:23

"Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be
yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river
Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be."
— Ibid., 11:24

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill
every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all
the women and children, that have not known a man by lying with
him, keep alive for yourselves." — Numbers 31:17-18

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have,
and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and
suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." — 1 Samuel 15:3

"And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph
a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle
in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining
of the house of Esau; for ADONAI hath spoken it."
— Obadiah, verse 18

In Abhodah Zarah (22a) it says:
"A Jew must not associate himself with gentiles because they are given to the shedding of blood."
Likewise in Iore Dea (153,2):
"An Israelite must not associate himself with the Akum [Christians] because they are given to the shedding of blood."

Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

Sanhedrin 59a: "A Goy (Gentile) who pries into the law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything with a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is of three years of age.

" Schabouth Hag. 6b: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.

" Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

Hilkkoth Akum Z1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death.

" Choschen Ham 388, 15: "If it be proven that someone has given the money of israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of this earth."

Choschen Ham 266, 1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely if by so doing Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in Jewish history.
Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration" of the Talmud:
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn, New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184:
"Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of Mishnah Torah states this as well.

"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's teachings are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil.
"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews, has not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New Republic, May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady (Northvale, New Jersey, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.

In the Old Testament, starting with Deuteronomy 20:10, we find the policy of deceit and destruction spelled out by the Jewish scriptwriters:
"When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: and when the Lord, they God, hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: but the women, and the little ones and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself: and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee...But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth."

Aug 11, 06 2:56 pm  · 
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Sotthi

Verses from the Koran:

VIII/12: When thy Lord inspired the angels (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

XCVIII/6: Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

IX/5: Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor- due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

IX/73: Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.

LXIX/30-37: (It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners eat.

XLIV/43-50: LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the heart of hell bearing fruits like devil's heads) - the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the torment of boiling water. Saying: TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble! Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

IX/123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

IV/144: O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah a clear warrant against you ?

IX/29: Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.
They are not to build any new places of worship.
They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.
They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.
They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill.
They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.
They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam.
They have to show respect to every Muslim.
They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.
They are not to dress like muslims.
They are not to name themselves with Muslim names.
They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.
They are not to possess arms.
They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers.
They are not to sell or drink liquor openly
They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status and separates them from Muslims.
They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.
They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims.
They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.
They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly.
They are not to buy muslim slaves.

LIX/5-6: "Whatsoever palm trees ye cut down or left standing on their roots, it was by by Allah's leave, in order that He might confound the evil-livers. And that which Allah gave as spoil unto His messenger from them, ye urged not any horse or riding-camel for the sake thereof, but Allah giveth His messenger lordship over whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things."

XLVIII/20-21: "Allah promiseth you much booty that ye will capture, and hath given you this in advance, and hath withheld men's hands from you, that it may be a token for the believers, and that He may guide you on a right path. And other (gain), which ye have not been able to achieve, Allah will compass it. Allah is able to do all things."
In the above verse, Allah is bribing the believers to make wars with the Kafirs. He promises them a lot of booty which they will gain from these wars.

VIII/41: "And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger and for the kinsman (who hath need) and orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if ye believe in Allah and that which we revealed unto Our slave on the Day of Discrimination, the day when the two armies met. And Allah is able to do all things."

VIII/65: "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence."

VIII/67-69: "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise. Had it not been for the ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you on account of what ye took. Now enjoy what ye have won, as lawful and good, and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

IX/5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

Sahih Al Bukhari, 216:"I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah & that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & until he performs the prayers & pays the Zakat."

Sahih Muslim, 217: "Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus if you kill, KILL WELL, & if you slaughter, SLAUGHTER WELL. Let each one of you sharpen his blade."

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."
The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.

Koran 17:16-17
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants."

Koran 8:37
In order that Allah may seperate the impure from the pure, Put All the impure ones (Non-Muslim), one on top of the another in a Heap and cast them into Hell. They will be the ones to have lost

Koran 21:11
How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their inequities, setting up in their place other peoples

Koran 44:43-50
Verily the Tree of Zaqqum will be the food of the sinful. Like molten brass it will boil in their insides, Like the boiling of scalding water Seize Ye Him and drag him into the midst of the blazing Fire Then pour over his head the penalty of Boiling Water
One shudders to imagine the kind of effects such a torture manual has on the impressionable mind of a young Muslim child.

Koran 2:89-90
The Curse of Allah is on those without faith (in Islam) Thus have they drawn wrath upon wrath on themselves and humiliating is the punishment of those who reject faith (Islam)

Koran 5:33
The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land

Koran 2:217
"They question you (O Mohammed) with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: Warfare therein is a great transgression but to turn men from the way of Allah and to disbelive in Him and the inviolable place of worship and to expel its people thence is a greater transgression, for persecution is worse than killing"

"O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you, and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing" (Sura al-Tawba 9:123).

"Fight against those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger, have forbidden -- such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book -- until they pay tribute out of hand and have been humbled" (Sura al-Tawba 9:29).

2: 27 Those who break Allah's Covenant after it is ratified, and who sunder what Allah Has ordered to be joined, and do mischief on earth: These cause loss (only) to themselves.

2:39, “But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.”

3:90-91 "Verily, those who disbelieved after their Belief and then went on increasing in their disbelief - never will their repentance be accepted [because they repent only by their tongues and not from their hearts]. And they are those who are astray. Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as a ransom. For them is a painful torment and they will have no helpers."

4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”

9:66, Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin.

9:74, They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them.

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 445:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet said, "Gabriel said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire)." The Prophet asked. "Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?" He replied, "Even then."

(Sahih Bukhari 4.260)
Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Unbelievers
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

"Believers, do not befriend your fathers or your brothers if they choose unbelief in preference to faith. Wrongdoers are those that befriend them." Repentance (3)#23

"Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends1. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. God does not guide the wrongdoers." The Table (5) #51.

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They [the unbelievers] will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal." The Imrans 3:118

They surely disbelieve who say, ‘ALLAH is the third of three;’ there is no god but the One God. And if they do not desist from what they say, a grievous punishment shall surely befall those of them that disbelieve" (Quran 5:73-74).

Aug 11, 06 2:59 pm  · 
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Sotthi

Islam in Europe: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12757599/


"Other Islamic Potentates:

Pakistan: Pakistan is undoubtedly the most dangerous Islamic country in the world. It is nuclear-armed, a darling of the only super-power that further shores its military might, viewed by the Leukosphere as a legitimate state rather than a terrorist state that it really is, and most importantly is ignored as a threat by most other countries. Greatest danger for Hindus.

Saudi Arabia: One of the most hellish nations on the face of the earth. Its main threat stems from the fact that it houses the symbols of Islam that continue to remain an odious sign of Arab imperialism. It is also armed dangerously by the US, and uses its main power, oil wealth, to fund most Jihads the world over. It combines with Pakistant to keep the engine of Islam running.

Iran: May enter the nuclear club, and is a longstanding civilizational power, which has now been hijacked by Islam. Its Mullocracy has shown itself a major support of Shi'ite Jihads the world over. Not a major danger for Hindus.

Indonesia: A nation hijacked by Islam, has enormous potential in the form of its population to create a major domain for the Jihad in the East. It threatens to destroy Hindu Bali and as the Hindu influence of the past erodes, it threatens to morph into a future nest of Islamic terror.

Bangladesh: A hell-hole, which is rapidly developing to become the next Taliban-like state. Its enormous poor population has the potential to supply Islam its foot soldiers for the Jihad and a new home for Al Qaeda like organizations. An enormous threat to Hindus.

Egypt: With the end of Hosni Mubarak, it is quite possible that the seething masses of Egypt stage an Islamic revolution centered on one of the root sources of Islamic indoctrination -- the university in Cairo.

Indian Moslems: While not owing a separate country as yet, they constitute an significant state within the Hindu state. More intelligent than the Arabs and numerous as ants they constitute an enormous threat to the Hindus and the world as they continue shake off their Hindu influences and aggressively Islamize.

Malaysia: Population power, provides a vast scope for Jihad in the East.

Iraq: After the US has screwed Iraq up, it is a good place for Moslem terrorists to reorganize

Turkey: For now Turkey is a delicate balance and we have no clear estimates when Islam might over throw the secular rulers. But the balance might shift and provide foot soldiers for Islamic struggles in the Middle East and invading Europe.

Afghanistan: Stoked by Pakistan it will soon return to being a center of constant low level conflict with West and also a training ground for anti-Hindu ghazis.

UAE: Has oil money to stoke Jihads, despite small size.

Then we have the tail made up of the Hezbollah and Syria, who are significant from the Jewish stand point, the central Asian States, Libya, Algeria, Yemen, Chechnya, Moslems in China and assorted African Islamic and semi-Islamic states.

Aug 11, 06 3:00 pm  · 
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Sotthi

And for its twin:

http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/anonymous.html

Aug 11, 06 3:01 pm  · 
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Sotthi

The Israelis:

Rabbinic Council Says Dead Lebanon Kids Not Innocent
By Rev. Ted Pike

Yesha Rabbinical Council is the recognized authority on Jewish religious questions in Gaza and the West Bank. This week it decreed that at least 56 Lebanese citizens of Kfar Qanna, including at least 34 children, targeted by an Israeli air strike, were not "innocent."

"The Yesha Rabbinical Counsel announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that 'according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such thing as 'innocence' among the enemy.'"

The council's edict reflects existing Israeli military/religious law. The chaplain for the IDF forces says, "In war, when our forces storm the enemies, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakah to kill even good civilians, that is, civilians that are ostensibly good."
http://www.rense.com/general72/rabb.htm


"We created terror among the Arabs and all the villages around. In one blow, we changed the strategic situation."
Those are the words of Menachem Begin boasting about the Israeli massacre of over 250 unarmed men, women and children at Deir Yassin in 1948.

"The massacre was not only justified, but there would not have been a state of Israel without the victory at Deir Yassin."

--Menachem Begin

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/shocked-at-israeli-atrocities-dont-be.html

Aug 11, 06 3:02 pm  · 
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Sotthi

The Lebanese:

Who is Green Helmet??

The Volokh Controversy:

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/who-is-this-man.html

http://volokh.com/posts/1154527526.shtml

Aug 11, 06 3:03 pm  · 
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Sotthi

71 "An evil deed does not immediately bear fruit, just as the newly-drawn milk does not curdle at once; but it follows the fool, burning him like live coal covered with ashes."

3 ""He abused me, he ill-treated me, he got the better of me, he stole my belongings;"... the enmity of those harbouring such thoughts cannot be appeased."

-The Dhammapada, Buddha


What is there to say on these Semitic-Terrorist-Whore-Bastards and their 'wars'?-

They destroy in order to be destroyed.

They lack the strength to carry out their own self-destruction, they compel each other to do it for them by treating each other as, and turning each other into their enemies.

I say all these Chosen Ones are the real 'Underpriveleged'.
Underprivileged means - the incapacity to resist action, the lust to destroy everything, to go down by taking everything and everyone with them...
'If I don't live, nobody else should live.'

Zion supposedly values its people so much, it would fire rockets to get back its two soldiers. Truth is, it would jump at the slightest excuse to wage war and grab at anything in front of it. Whores.
The fact that Israel has officially announced/threatened/promised "a painful expansion" shows what was lurking in their minds.

If Islam creates such cretinous malformed war-pigs, just goes to show how deformed the ugly whore-womb of that greater Judea must be. -Islam's maternity ward.
Fucking reactionary strings the both of them.

An honourable man, a people or a nation can undergo a considerable reduction of their value without becoming small and weak on that account, they require no extreme articles of faith.

Aug 11, 06 3:06 pm  · 
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abracadabra

eat a ham 'and' cheese sandwich.

Aug 11, 06 3:17 pm  · 
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cf

Sotthi:

Both twins are dressed in the clothes that require them to destroy/subjugate/cast out/separate (cull: using Eisenmans word) that which they are not? This is how they think?

Aug 11, 06 3:24 pm  · 
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Sotthi

cf, they are inherently nay-sayers; the only difference is one has managed to put itself at the head of all the decadent movements and the other is a decadent movement. You figure it out.

Nietzsche's 'Genealogy of Morals, 1.10' is more perceptive and incisive on the psychology of the semitic spirit.

"The slave revolt in morals begins by rancor turning creative and giving birth to values—the rancor of beings who, deprived of the direct outlet of action, compensate by an imaginary vengeance. All truly noble morality grows out of triumphant self-affirmation. Slave ethics, on the other hand, begins by saying no to an "outside," an "other," a non-self, and that no is its creative act. This reversal of direction of the evaluating look, this invariable looking outward instead of inward, is a fundamental feature of rancor. Slave ethics requires for its inception a sphere different from and hostile to its own. Physiologically speaking, it requires an outside stimulus in order to act at all; all its action is reaction."

The way of the creative-No...

For the inherent problems within Judaism:
http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=regmeister+-+horst+mahler&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t400&x=wrt&u=www.deutsches-kolleg.org/hm/texte/judenfrage_e.html&w=regmeister+horst+mahler&d=C9fbSjmtMwfu&icp=1&.intl=us

Aug 11, 06 4:26 pm  · 
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i wish the head of hezbollah and olmert would just duke it out in this forum like you guys are doing. it's totally harmless and accomplishes just as much.

Aug 11, 06 6:21 pm  · 
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LANY

Well...
I am not afraid to say that it is much more likely that next time a plane is hijacked, a bus or a train is blown it will be by a muslim.

But to satisfy the mainstream on this list, I will admit there are Jewish extremists (in the west bank), but you will find it hard to convince me that they ...or any other jew (or christian for this sake) will ever plot a simple mass murder of innocent people.

Aug 11, 06 7:26 pm  · 
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parachute

A message to LANY and all those that are not looking that are not informed enough...
it might be hard for you to believe, but jews have ploted such massacres and are still doing so as i am replying to you. Israel is mass murdering silently.They have ploted the death of Palestinians and Lebanese civilians....over and over again....it wasn't on a commercial plane, but it was in their F16 jets firing blindly on villages, on vegetable trucks, refugees buses.( all they had to say was, oh, we mistaken them for rockets)they were firing at civilians(infants of 1 day), it was in their own home while they were sleeping.
Maybe you should reconsider MASS MURDER ...because it is happening...just you are not informed about it properly.
in the last 31 days:
Do you know it has been *31days* that the world has been letting this realm
of horror carry on freely?
31 days
900 and more dead...
3283 wounded...
913 760 displaced, homeless, refugees, call them what you want but don't
call them numbers!
As you read this, do you feel the reality of the situation?
Or are they just numbers?
75 roads...
74 bridges...
6200 housing buildings...
12 factories...
25 gas stations...
5 hospitals...
Are these only more numbers?
Owww I forgot:
1 Mediterranean coast thast turned black from lebanon to syria, reaching turquey soon...you can call this Environmental Murder( you should look at fotos).
So WHO IS PLOTING A MASS MURDER?
no need to think that jews are the ones that are being attacked...

Aug 11, 06 7:50 pm  · 
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parachute
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

you must see this before they censore it....

Aug 11, 06 8:52 pm  · 
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LANY

Parachute,

You must see this also....
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1224273,00.html
I get a feeling they recruited a group of you here on the site...

Aug 11, 06 10:12 pm  · 
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parachute

LANY

I think you should read this also....
did they recruit you?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html

strange same news source!

i hope you will realise the situation is much worse then this silly info...

Aug 11, 06 10:32 pm  · 
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parachute

" Cease-Fire in the Middle-East"
would be a much better catchline in the papers to read and share after all....keep that in mind...
however until this happens...just remember that those numbers are risisng ....probably on both sides of the borders as well...which i find very painful to watch...






Aug 11, 06 10:56 pm  · 
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just a regular joe's introduction, before and in case, if you decide to click below links i am posting. it might help bring the context closer to home before it goes to middle east ;

there are some previously unthinkable debates starting in our own country that will eventually find their way into the main stream and connect to genuine american psyche in the light of recent wars and raising public opinion about them.
israel must take these debates and slow shift of american public opinion into consideration for its very own survival, instead of going after short term armed solutions, assuming one sided american support is unconditional and forever guaranteed.
remember that genuine american psyche is deeply rooted in decleration of independence and eventually fairness, if it is really dug up.
oh. the raising oil prices should be mentioned as well for the common people's mind works.
direction of wind can change.
lets not forget, people have the ultimate power in this country.
just a friendly reminder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQv5YSg_YA

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf

http://www.aipac.org/

Aug 11, 06 11:37 pm  · 
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the cellardoor whore

sotthi...spoken with the eruptive violence of a true 'semite'

now, what does the antichrist say of christians and their slave morality? he hardly meant islam or judaism. the 'offer him your other cheek' morality, the passive agressive 'love' of christianity and the love christians have for the christ.

and anyways, in their distinct methods and sensibilities, conquering is the bane of the three semitic religions. that of the jew is a conquering of blood (the maternal lineage is emphatic of that), the muslim that of a struggle (literally: jihad) , the christian that of 'love' (which might cause a few deaths on the way if it develops love absolute in the process....a lot ofp plato there (arendt)). so we find israel's paranoia of preservation, hizbollah's martydom (a specific shiite sensibility) and the love of america, democracy in shining armour.

so stop pointing the finger, the human race in all its factions.All.

Aug 12, 06 7:35 am  · 
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Sotthi

c-whore:> sotthi...spoken with the eruptive violence of a true 'semite'

c-whore, the provoked with the defensive ressentiment of a true semite!
Pointing at the root to show the fruit is not violence, find another means of criticism.

> now, what does the antichrist say of christians and their slave morality?

Now, what does the Antichrist say of Christianity being a subterranean cult invented by the Israeli Jews and their morality?
Now, what does the Genealogy say about the Judaic origins of slave-revolt?
You need section nos., let me know.


> so stop pointing the finger, the human race in all its factions.All.

I am pointing my finger at Monotheism.

"Monotheism, on the contrary, the rigid consequence of one normal human being—consequently, the belief in a normal God, beside whom there are only false spurious Gods—has perhaps been the greatest danger of mankind in the past.

Jehovah is not only a "jealous" god, but he can also show hatred: "Yet, I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau" (Malachi 1:3). lie recommends hatred to all those w ho call out his name: "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 1 hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies" (Psalm 139: 21-22). "Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, 0 God" (Psalm 139:19). Jeremiah cries out: "Render unto them a recompense, O Lord, according to the work of their hands. . . . Persecute and destroy them in anger from under the heavens of the Lord" (Lamentations 3:64-66). The book of Jeremiah is a long series of maledictions and curses hurled against peoples and nations. His contemplation of future punishments fills him with gloomy delight. "Let them be confounded that persecute me, but let not me be confounded: ... bring upon them the day of evil, and destroy them with double destruction" (Lam. 17:18). "Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death" (Lam. 18:21).

"No ancient religion, except that of the Hebrew people has known such a degree of intolerance," says Emile Gillabert in Moise et le phénomène judéo-chrétien (1976). Renan had written in similar terms: "The intolerance of the Semitic peoples is the inevitable consequence of their monotheism.

the idea that these massacres could be morally justified, that they could be deliberately authorized and ordained by one god, "as Moses the servant of the Lord commanded" (Joshua 11:12). Thus, for the perpetrators of these crimes, good consciousness continues to rule, not despite these massacres, but entirely for the sake of the massacres.

What is certain is that Christian intolerance began to manifest itself very early. In the course of history this intolerance was directed against "infidels" as well as against pagans, Jews, and heretics. It accompanied the extermination of all aspects of ancient culture—the murder of Julius of Hypati, the interdiction of pagan cults, the destruction of temples and statues, the suppression of the Olympic Games, and the arson, at the instigation of the town's Bishop Theophilus of Sarapeum, of Alexandria in A.D. 389, whose immense library of 700,000 volumes had been collected by the Ptolemeys. Then came the forced conversions, the extinction of positive science, persecution, and pyres. Ammianus Marcellinus said: "The wild beasts are less hostile to people than Christians are among themselves." Sulpicius Severus wrote: "Now everything has gone astray as the result of discords among bishops. Everywhere, one can see hatred, favours, fear, jealousy, ambition, debauchery, avarice, arrogance, sloth: there is general corruption everywhere."

"Totalitarianism," writes Gilbert Durand, "is further strengthened, in so far as the powers of monotheist theology have been transferred to a human institution, to the Grand Inquisitor."

It is a serious error to assume that totalitarianism manifests its real character only when it employs crushing coercion. Historical experience has demonstrated—and continues to demonstrate—that there can exist a "clean" totalitarianism, which, in a "soft" manner, yields the same consequences as the classic kinds of totalitarianism."
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/debenoist/alain10.html


"The roots of tyranny do not lie in Athens or Sparta, but are traceable, instead, to Jerusalem. In a dialogue with Molnar, de Benoist suggests that monotheism upholds the idea of only one absolute truth; it is a system where the notion of the enemy is associated with the evil, and where the enemy must be physically exterminated (cf. Deut. 13). In short, observes de Benoist, Judeo-Christian universalism, two thousand years ago, set the stage for the rise of modern egalitarian aberrations and their modern secular offshoots, including communism.

One could probably argue that Judeo-Christian monotheism, as much as it implies universalism and egalitarianism, also suggests religious exclusiveness that directly emanates from the belief in one undisputed truth. The consequence of the Christian belief in theological oneness-e.g., that there is only one God, and therefore only one truth-has naturally led, over the centuries, to Christian temptation to obliterate or downplay all other truths and values. One can argue that when one sect proclaims its religion as the key to the riddle of the universe and if, in addition, this sect claims to have universal aspirations, the belief in equality and the suppression of all human differences will follow suit. Accordingly, Christian intolerance toward "infidels" could always be justified as a legitimate response against those who departed from the belief in Yahveh's truth."
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/tomsunic/sunic2.html


The desire for unity far too often, perhaps inevitably, becomes a demand for uniformity.

Islam and Judaeo-Christianity are the decadent reflections of the kind of tyrannical monotheistic jewish environement they grew in.

The root and its fruit.


p.s. in all fairness, there were a group of what can be called noble Hebraic people before their true warrior was decimated by their Priests and the current legacy is not of any warrior-hood despite the exhibition of such horrible violence and mindset. The current violent attitudes and morality is even telling of an Jewish need for a proper disciplined warrior caste! Its this hole within their societal-make-up puts their priestly "law" above the sacred.

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