What is the architecture names of the elements with the red marks, I have the names for everything else. It's Niall McLaughlin's Bishop Edward King Chapel.
Agree with taz and graphemic. It's a cement mortar topping/infill. It's being used to embed the hydronic heating tubes on the floor, and to fill in the void behind the brick/stone/whatever veneer at the building base to direct water in the cavity out to weep holes. In US best practice, the masonry cavity would probably not be filled in like that, but have a sill flashing to the weeps instead. But they might have filled it because the cavity goes below the soil line (generally not a good idea).
ok, thanks. Would you know the architectural terms for both, under the floor and in the wall?
Nov 7, 24 4:18 pm ·
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gwharton
At the floor, it would be something like "fluid-applied cementitious underlayment" (aka "Gypcrete") or "lightweight cement topping". For the masonry cavity fill, probably "fill with mortar continuous to drain plane, slope to weeps" or something like that.
Nov 7, 24 5:11 pm ·
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fapc
if the floor assembly is representing hydronic heating tubes, there would be a separate form for them, typically they are laid down directly on substrate or held in guides; yes it's drawn simplistically/diagrammatically.
a few of the graphics are not drawn to industry standard.
the horizontal stippled poche with "circles" in it, is a finished floor assembly. with the graphics not super clear, to me it looks like a reinforced topping slab on top of a sub-flooring (if the finished floor be concrete or terrazzo and the sub flooring could be anything from a rubber or a self-leveling compound)
the vertical stippled (number one looking shape) is probably just grout
Yeah. Also the crazy stress concentrator in the concrete from the floor slab to that thick bench/wall thingy. No way that isn't going to crack to pieces in a couple of seasonal temperature cycles.
Nov 7, 24 2:28 pm ·
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t a z
It could be a section taken thru a tiny cantilever niche?
An amazing building. Love the wood structure. The very small bit of concrete connecting the bottom does look off, as does the filled cavity at the bottom. I assume they know what they are doing, but I would be nervous with the latter in a rainy climate.
Mclaughlin's Auckland Tower is also impressive. Especially for being in Britain and on a heritage site.
Nov 7, 24 3:37 pm ·
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K-Panther
thanks, I love the guy, he was a tutor of mine.
Nov 7, 24 4:00 pm ·
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K-Panther
does that mean it's not accurate?
Nov 7, 24 4:08 pm ·
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t a z
It means two things:
1) The drawings are simplified for graphic presentation
2) European hatch conventions differ from North American standards so when US students copy from Detail magazine it is fairly obvious.
btw, this is my version. does that look right, I am just missing the bits I highlighted in his. Obviously it's not finished.
Nov 7, 24 4:42 pm ·
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Almosthip
I would make the hatching a lighter colour. Have you learned anything about line weights? Look at the original detail and look at yours. Why are some of their lines heaver and darker than yours?
The scale of your concrete hatch is too big. Does anyone actually use that concrete hatch type anymore? We always show concrete with a solid hatch. Not going to to lie but I dont get your window detailing, what is supporting the window frame.
Nov 7, 24 6:15 pm ·
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Non Sequitur
I’m sure I had a ski jacket in late 80s that had that concrete hatch pattern. Looked good in teal, purple at gold.
Additionally a footing is the pad at the bottom of a foundation wall. What you have shown is either the foundation wall or concrete grade beam, but not a footing.
Still wrong , no WPM shown in the original dwg. Compacted hardcore is also incorrect. I’ll not give you the answers though / here’s the section that i think it is cutting from.
@ gwharton comments were spot on.
Nov 7, 24 7:28 pm ·
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Hi, first post.
What is the architecture names of the elements with the red marks, I have the names for everything else. It's Niall McLaughlin's Bishop Edward King Chapel.
thanks
hello..?
rigid foam of some sort. Not a difficult question but please make sure to give me credit on your homework assignment.
I was thinking mineral wool but the hatch pattern is wrong.
One looks like radiant flooring so likely rigid or mortar. Mineral wool could not do that slope drain thing either.
mudbed or stiff sand mix
I agree it's some kind of mortar given the radiant tubes and the slope at the top on the other red dot.
Agree with taz and graphemic. It's a cement mortar topping/infill. It's being used to embed the hydronic heating tubes on the floor, and to fill in the void behind the brick/stone/whatever veneer at the building base to direct water in the cavity out to weep holes. In US best practice, the masonry cavity would probably not be filled in like that, but have a sill flashing to the weeps instead. But they might have filled it because the cavity goes below the soil line (generally not a good idea).
ok, thanks. Would you know the architectural terms for both, under the floor and in the wall?
At the floor, it would be something like "fluid-applied cementitious underlayment" (aka "Gypcrete") or "lightweight cement topping". For the masonry cavity fill, probably "fill with mortar continuous to drain plane, slope to weeps" or something like that.
if the floor assembly is representing hydronic heating tubes, there would be a separate form for them, typically they are laid down directly on substrate or held in guides; yes it's drawn simplistically/diagrammatically.
a few of the graphics are not drawn to industry standard.
the horizontal stippled poche with "circles" in it, is a finished floor assembly. with the graphics not super clear, to me it looks like a reinforced topping slab on top of a sub-flooring (if the finished floor be concrete or terrazzo and the sub flooring could be anything from a rubber or a self-leveling compound)
the vertical stippled (number one looking shape) is probably just grout
from what I googled, I thought that too.
glad my years of experience can be whittled down to a google search; reassuring
Skylight detailing looks sus and have fun maintaining that gutter
Yeah. Also the crazy stress concentrator in the concrete from the floor slab to that thick bench/wall thingy. No way that isn't going to crack to pieces in a couple of seasonal temperature cycles.
It could be a section taken thru a tiny cantilever niche?
Bishop Edward King Chapel by Níall McLaughlin Architects by The Bartlett School of Architecture UCL - Issuu
These are presentation sections typically found in Detail magazine, and other types of publications.
Yep - Image 21 of 22
Bishop Edward King Chapel / Niall McLaughlin Architects | ArchDaily
An amazing building. Love the wood structure. The very small bit of concrete connecting the bottom does look off, as does the filled cavity at the bottom. I assume they know what they are doing, but I would be nervous with the latter in a rainy climate.
Mclaughlin's Auckland Tower is also impressive. Especially for being in Britain and on a heritage site.
thanks, I love the guy, he was a tutor of mine.
does that mean it's not accurate?
It means two things:
1) The drawings are simplified for graphic presentation
2) European hatch conventions differ from North American standards so when US students copy from Detail magazine it is fairly obvious.
btw, this is my version. does that look right, I am just missing the bits I highlighted in his. Obviously it's not finished.
I would make the hatching a lighter colour. Have you learned anything about line weights? Look at the original detail and look at yours. Why are some of their lines heaver and darker than yours? The scale of your concrete hatch is too big. Does anyone actually use that concrete hatch type anymore? We always show concrete with a solid hatch. Not going to to lie but I dont get your window detailing, what is supporting the window frame.
I’m sure I had a ski jacket in late 80s that had that concrete hatch pattern. Looked good in teal, purple at gold.
Additionally a footing is the pad at the bottom of a foundation wall. What you have shown is either the foundation wall or concrete grade beam, but not a footing.
NS this what I picture you wearing
That’s it but black background. Matching snow pants too.
Dazzle camouflage!
Still wrong , no WPM shown in the original dwg. Compacted hardcore is also incorrect. I’ll not give you the answers though / here’s the section that i think it is cutting from.
@ gwharton comments were spot on.
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