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Question Regarding M.Arch Programs at UBC, UofT, Carleton, and Columbia

Cloudpink

Hey guys, 

I'm applying to M.Arch this year (I did my HBA in Architecture at UofT). I'm considering UBC, Carelton, UofT, and maybe Columbia GSAPP. Carelton and UBC are my first choice. I don't feel too confident applying to Columbia in this economy. If anyone has been to the schools that I've mentioned in this blurb, I would like to know your experiences (and general thoughts), pros and cons, networking opportunities, and the facilities available at each school. I've done some research on these schools, but everything seems glossed over. 

 
Oct 10, 24 10:26 pm
newbie.Phronesis

In general: whatever is cheapest and completes fastest (2 vs 3 years) is the priority. One other consideration I've heard is choose the city that interests you - you're going to be there several years, so go somewhere that you'd love to be and might never have the chance to live in again.

Regarding schools: think UBC and UofT are somewhat overrated education-wise. UofT and Carleton seem to have better networking and competition opportunities, as they're in Ontario. All three should have the usual facilities - woodshop, cnc, plastic/3D printing, and printshops; Carleton has some interesting ones like CSALT and Action Labs, while UBC is itself a small city with plentiful cross-disciplinary opportunities and nearly everything you could want close by.

Completely unsure on Columbia to be honest, but generally hear good things. If you are Canadian though, it's better to stay in Canada (tuition is far cheaper...). Hope that helps!

Oct 11, 24 12:46 am  · 
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Cloudpink

Hey newbie.Phronesis,

Oct 17, 24 5:47 pm  · 
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Cloudpink

Hey!

Nov 25, 24 5:55 pm  · 
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newbie.Phronesis

Hi Cloudpink, applications end up alright? Reply was cut off before.

Nov 25, 24 11:34 pm  · 
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Cloudpink

Hi newbie.Phronesis! I apologize for the late reply! I just saw that my entire message was not posted after editing it. I'm still in the process of completing my applications. I'm still working on my portfolio and statement of interest. In terms of schools, I did my undergrad (HBA in Architectural Studies) at UofT, so that school is my cheapest option. However, I'm not a fan of their curriculum. As much as I love the Daniels Faculty's elective courses (both for grad and undergrad), I still think that they have way too many electives as part of their curriculum (see below for the link). 1) In terms of curriculum (Canadian), I prefer UBC. I want to learn about the Canadian landscape (i.e., urban, rural, suburban, etc.), the type of opportunities that it (the landscape) presents, and how we can create sustainable opportunities for communities living on those diverse landscapes. 2) UBC offers co-op and directed study, which UofT and Carleton don't. 3) I looked into CSALT and Action Labs, which convinced me to apply to Carleton. 4) I wanted to apply to Columbia GSAPP because of their research centres - the Post-Conflict Cities Lab and the Buell Centre. Learning and researching post-conflict cities (PCC) became the interest and convincing factor for staying in architecture school. After 2nd year, I was close to dropping out of the program because I didn't feel like I was progressing or learning anything until I took a course on PCC (offered by the faculty). 5) Even though Columbia is my dream school, it's way too expensive in this economy. 6) I know that UofT has the facilities you mentioned in your response (I'm not sure about plastic printing, though). 7) In terms of cities, I live in Toronto, but I've never been to Vancouver. 8) One thing I haven't been able to wrap my mind around is why certain Canadian schools (i.e., Waterloo, Dalhousie, etc.) have 2-year programs, and some have 3 (i.e., UofT, Carleton, UBC, etc.). What's been excluded (for 2-year programs) and what's been included (for 3-year programs)?

Nov 26, 24 1:48 am  · 
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Cloudpink

I realized I forgot to add the link in the response: https://www.daniels.utoronto.ca/programs/graduate/master-architecture#Curriculum

Nov 26, 24 1:51 am  · 
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newbie.Phronesis

Usually the "3rd" year is really a 1st prep year for non-arch students like at UofT and Carleton (see the Advanced Standing section); you'll likely have a pre-Master's year everywhere if you lack an accepted arch background. Some university's might also be 3 years if semesters aren't condensed or are mixed with work semesters, though I went through a 2 year M.Arch so not entirely certain. 

Oh, btw if you have time might be worth visiting Vancouver to see if you like it - west coast is quite different than the east! Also bear in mind - there was a recent posting from a disgruntled UBC student: To all the disappointed students | Forum | Archinect

Nov 28, 24 4:14 pm  · 
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Non Sequitur

UofT is a last resort type of school so put it at the bottom of the list. Also, do not get sucked into paying USA USA! Tuition, it is not worth it. 


Carleton and UBC are fine and either is x3 times better than UofT. (Loo and McGill are at the top) Canadian tuition is very cheap too so look at the faculty’s research and pick the one that aligns best with your goals.  Helps if you plan on living/working in Vancouver or Ottawa.  

Oct 11, 24 6:18 am  · 
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Cloudpink

Hey Non Sequitur! I apologize for the late response. I got my HBA in Arch. Studies from UofT, so I don't qualify for McGill's M.Arch program :( In this economy, the only way I can go to Columbia is: 1) a heap of money falls from the sky and into my hands; 2) a full-ride scholarship; 3) in my dreams. UBC is at the top of my list. As I said in my response to newbie.Phronesis, I like UBC's curriculum and the fact that they offer co-op. I haven't been able to get my hands on Carleton's curriculum. Their website is a bit difficult to navigate. I was able to access the sample curriculum from their website, but not the full version or course descriptions. I plan on teaching after I get my licence. I want to have my own practice someday (a person can dream), but I want to teach at UofT. That school is not taking advantage of its location (within the province and the city) and funding. There's so much that UofT with the funding they receive (i.e., create more studio courses, co-op, expand its network, create research centres and labs, etc.).

Nov 26, 24 2:12 am  · 
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