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How many admitted every year to top schools?

bluesquare

Hi, I was curious if the number of students admitted versus the number of students that apply to M.Arch schools like the GSD, YSoA, GSAPP, USC, etc. I know the stats always change but was wondering if anyone new typical numbers based on past reports.

 
Jan 3, 19 5:46 pm
Anon_grad2.0

Why does it matter?  If you get in, you get in. If not then go somewhere else

Jan 3, 19 5:55 pm
bluesquare

yes I know, it was jus curious

bluesquare

I was just curious

Non Sequitur

everyone and their grandma applies to the same top 5 schools, so... why does this matter?



Jan 3, 19 6:05 pm
TrogIodytarum

If USC is a top 5 school I'm a flying unicorn that shits popcorn.

Non Sequitur

Top 5 as in top 5 choices.

TrogIodytarum

If USC is a top 5 choice for M.Arch I'm a dyslexic penguin that knows karate

Non Sequitur

Cool beans. Hard to see how a dyslexic penguin could type that sentence tho.

Non Sequitur

I don’t even know what USC is.

5839

It varies widely from one degree program and university to another, and from one year to the next (examples: graduate programs usually get higher numbers of applicants during economic downturns; and most schools' first-professional M.Arch tracks have slightly lower admitted percentages than their post-pro M.Arch tracks). The schools you listed range from lows of around 8% accepted, to highs of about 20%, to their graduate programs over the last 20 years or so.

Jan 3, 19 8:21 pm
bluesquare

Yeah I was thinking around those numbers, thanks for the info!

TrogIodytarum

Of the schools you listed NONE of them publicly list their M.Arch acceptance rate annually. YSoA mentioned it publicly ONE time in 2009 (14%) but that was a decade ago. Without official reports you're going to get a bunch of hearsay, speculation, and anecdotal accounts about how somebody's cousin's grandma's boyfriend was on the admissions committee. Don't trust any of that bullshit.


Your best bet is to nicely ask admissions officers how many applications they received last year during an official information session (in person or online). Using that number you can figure out the approximate acceptance rate.



Jan 4, 19 3:19 am
Bloopox

All of these schools report each year's admissions figures for every school/department in their annual reports/letters to alumni and other fundraising targets. It shouldn't take that much sleuthing to get the real numbers.  Any alum or faculty member is receiving this info every November.  Whether they bother to read it is another matter...

Aluminate

Second that. I always get the annual letter from the Dean about "we accepted 73 extremely well-qualified students from a pool of 812 applicants, yielding an incoming class of 57.... blah blah blah .... we bought a bunch of 3D printers... some alumni sponsored some trips for some students... more blah.... please donate lots of money." You have to do a little arithmetic to get the %, but it couldn't get any more first-hand.

5839

Troglodytarum's method wouldn't let you figure out the acceptance rate anyway. You'd only know from observation how many of the accepted students ultimately enrolled - not how many were accepted. How many enrolled is the yield, not the acceptance rate. Like say you observe that they have 50 current first-years, and the admissions officer tells you they got 500 applications. If the yield was 90% of those accepted then the acceptance rate was 11%. But if the yield was 45% then the acceptance rate was twice that.

TrogIodytarum

Unless you all present an actual letter from each of the schools inquired in this thread that information is completely speculative and therefore useless. But thank you for illustrating my original point about how there is so much irrelevant hearsay speculative bullshit from anonymous internet sleuths with no actual evidence to back up any claims.

And LOL at 5839 for lacking the reading comprehension to understand my post. Read it again buddy, maybe out loud. Never claimed it was a way to get the exact acceptance rate.

thatsthat

If you want to get obsessive about it, go look on https://www.thegradcafe.com/  and search the programs you applied to.  That's likely to give you better answers than most of the people here... myself included.

Jan 4, 19 10:52 am
Formerlyunknown

I looked at the people who posted there about applying to my alma mater, for the past year, and it doesn't look that accurate. First, not a big enough sample (25 people posted their results from my architecture school there. We usually get about 800 applicants.) Second, the overwhelming majority of the 25 were rejected or wait-listed. If I use that as a sample I get an acceptance rate of 8%, when I know it's really a lot higher.  Maybe the users of that website skew toward the more iffy candidates?  Or maybe it's the disappointed or disgruntled ones who are more likely to come back and post their results?  I don't know but my impression is it won't help you with a very accurate picture.

Is this information part of that collage ranking system that comes out each year?

Jan 4, 19 2:35 pm
Formerlyunknown

Stats for undergrad programs are part of some of the various published rankings. Stats for graduate programs are harder to come by - they're not generally included information by those rankings.

For GSD at least they published the 2017 factbook which includes acceptance and yield rates for the past 10 years or so. GSD and MIT are larger programs with about 50-60 students per year for M. Arch I which allows for a generous 20% acceptance rate. Cornell, Yale, GSAPP have 20-30 which come out at 10-15% usually. I asked the Cornell AAP admissions lady last November at Open House New York and she told me about they usually got 300-400 applicants.

Jan 7, 19 5:22 pm
TrogIodytarum

The document you linked shows the acceptance and yield rates COMBINED for ALL PROGRAMS at GSD. Not M.Arch specifically. It makes me really question your reading comprehension.


Your other numbers that were not sourced are likely bogus as well but thanks for posting because it illustrates why nobody should believe unsourced claims from the internet.

CL205

Claire Jiang's numbers are very wrong! Regarding the program size for M.Arch I, I am pretty sure it is more like this. 

GSD > YSoA > MIT ≥ Princeton  (I do not know too much about GSSAP and Cornell)

Princeton used to be very small but is admitting more students in recent years..https://soa.princeton.edu/zone... Now it is almost the same size as the M.Arch program at MIT. 

For acceptance rate - Not every school post it online. For MIT, it is a bit higher than 9% last year. You can also check the department's annual report to the president for old numbers at http://web.mit.edu/annualrepor... . (make sure you select the department of architecture). For example, in 2015 "there were 528 applicants: 60 were admitted with 27 targeted for Year 1, resulting in 24 enrolled; and none targeted for Year 2 due to the large class size of the rising Year 2 students". In general, it is becoming more and more competitive. 

For the GSD, you can check their  2017 factbook for the overall percentage at the GSD. They provide numbers for each department during the open house. If I remember correctly, for M.Arch their acceptance rate is a tiny bit higher than MIT's.

If you really want to know the acceptance rate, just go to their open house and talk to people there, or just schedule a phone call with the department as a prospective student.

I hope it helps

Jan 10, 19 1:49 pm

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