I'm just wondering what people are using nowadays for presentations. While powerpoint seems to be the obvious choice, I'm seeing a lot of PDF's used.
truevis
Mar 24, 10 6:18 pm
One advantage of using PDFs for presentations is that they can be made with programs which can kern* the type. MS Word can do that even though many users don't seem to know it.
I find PP presentations, even though they can be very good, will always look amateurish because the type is not spaced well.
*Kern - The adjustment of the spacing between letters in order to make them more visually pleasing and balanced on the sheet.
khmay
Mar 24, 10 9:30 pm
word art + sound effects= win
chupacabra
Mar 24, 10 10:27 pm
InDesgin actually can even export a flash presentation with transition effects as well. Read up on making flash presentation in InDesign...PowerPoint is akin to acknowledging that you care very little about aesthetics or functionality.
uhhhhh
Mar 24, 10 11:57 pm
my vote is for indesign. once i bit the bullet and came up with one, really well designed and flexible template, i was set! instant sophistication and no added lag time due to scrutinizing the design during deadline crunches.
trace™
Mar 25, 10 11:43 pm
You can also control the compression much more effectively with ID, so making a PDF for the web and for print is easy.
PodZilla
Mar 27, 10 9:27 am
PDF all the way. Powerpoints don't travel well... they have a weird way of always changing when they're shown on computers that aren't the one they were made on... slides get cut off, fonts shift around the screen, images move... Plus, with PDF, its easy to print the presentation into a booklet; powerpoint files are usually gigantic and take days to print. Every school presentation I've done for the last three years has been PDF, and I've never had a problem.
truevis
Apr 25, 10 10:44 pm
I see that kerning is available in PowerPoint 2007. Let's us make sure we use it if that's our medium.
surface
Apr 26, 10 1:12 am
Thank you, truevis. I agree with you 100%.
KERN, people. KERN!!!
randomized
Apr 26, 10 3:23 am
but can you incorporate movies/animations/audiofiles in an indesign PDF? That's why I was always forced to use powerpoint...
esfk
Apr 26, 10 4:40 am
pdfs..ctrl+L and you're set!
will galloway
Apr 26, 10 8:39 am
i used to use pdfs made from indesign. then i had to do 6 hours of lectures every week. ppt made that much easier.
in the end both software work well enough. ppt has its uses, so does in design. i must say kerning does not worry me much (sorry) but for combining flash with slides and for certain presentation techniques it makes sense to me to use ppt...
one thing i don't like in ppt is the poor GUI. In design is much better, no question about it....
tuna
Apr 26, 10 1:36 pm
whatever you decide on, create a template. when it comes down to createing a new presentation, wheater indesign or powerpoint, you're always limited on time. so a template can go a long way.
An odd source, but good read on PPT and presentation overall. It cites a few good resources (Tufte) and the 18 slide by Captain Patriquin mentioned near the end is a can't miss.
The mention of kerning is to me a reason we fail at PPT and ID - far far far too much attention paid to detail and not the information being relayed. Don't get me wrong - make slides legible and asthetically tolerant. But I've never heard anyone say "omg, did you notice the W and A wasn't kerned?"
InDesign, or LaTeX + Beamer package. Powerpoint is awful.
c.k.
Apr 27, 10 2:07 pm
LaTeX, really? I thought that was for science only. I know you can do lots with it but you need to know the code.
truevis
Apr 28, 10 10:03 am
architerp: 'But I've never heard anyone say "omg, did you notice the W and A wasn't kerned?"'
I say it to myself.
But, I agree, there are much worse things to do during a presentation. Reading directly from the powerpoint -- grrr -- it's the worst.
Also, I've seen things like "Who's model is it?" on presentations. Much more disturbing than lack of kerning, of course.
Roshi
Jan 26, 14 10:40 pm
Prezi.
natematt
Jan 27, 14 9:31 am
I tend to use Indesign to create slides and then just throw them into PPT. That way I get the design capacity of Indesign with the presentation abilities of PPT, which is to say the ability to embed/support other media and have presenter notes.
mightyaa
Jan 27, 14 6:52 pm
For me it also depends on the presentation, size of the audience, how the presentation is done (just sent, or live, or group or...) and how much eye candy I need. But as a presenter, most the time I don't follow a linear script because you are 'reading' your audience and tailoring your presentation to those things that get them excited.
Honestly the best I've seen are web browser based using a database. It can be done within a pdf too. That's because if you are presenting, you don't need to talk about everything if it isn't what they are into. But you need everything so you can adjust to the situation. In the leave packet, you leave it with them to browse through if a particular project caught their eye. They can learn more than your 20 minutes allowed you to say or expand upon if you leave them with more information to browse through.
The presentation itself is more like flirting.... You're hoping they'll call after you leave wanting to see you again.
SneakyPete
Jan 27, 14 10:46 pm
InDesign allows you to refresh your links when you photoshop out that pesky smoke detector.
dominiond
Sep 5, 18 11:52 pm
InD all the way- Powerpoint layouts and templates are just sad....
cipyboy
Apr 16, 19 9:01 am
PDF can't do space ship sound effects (mic drop)
eduardotorres
May 11, 20 8:46 pm
POWERPOINT WINS
U in Design people are stupid motherfuc....ing ridiculous.
in terms of easy using and faster POWERPOINT is way superior.
and it looks the f....ing same
Non Sequitur
May 12, 20 8:32 am
You clearly have not used InDesign.
Koww
May 12, 20 2:06 am
use monospace fonts. you don't have to kern shit
randomised
May 12, 20 8:06 am
keynote?
midlander
May 12, 20 10:30 am
for design presentation indesign is always more flexible and better quality output. but a lot of things end up needing to get shared for client's internal use, working with the engineers, marketing team, etc. so sometimes PPT is great just because it's quick and anyone can edit it without the source files.
If I could use only one, I'd actually pick PPT just because it's a lot less flexible. Sometimes the constraint forces people to focus on the content more than the format. And it's easier to make quick changes outside the office as you wait for a client meeting.
I'm just wondering what people are using nowadays for presentations. While powerpoint seems to be the obvious choice, I'm seeing a lot of PDF's used.
One advantage of using PDFs for presentations is that they can be made with programs which can kern* the type. MS Word can do that even though many users don't seem to know it.
I find PP presentations, even though they can be very good, will always look amateurish because the type is not spaced well.
*Kern - The adjustment of the spacing between letters in order to make them more visually pleasing and balanced on the sheet.
word art + sound effects= win
InDesgin actually can even export a flash presentation with transition effects as well. Read up on making flash presentation in InDesign...PowerPoint is akin to acknowledging that you care very little about aesthetics or functionality.
my vote is for indesign. once i bit the bullet and came up with one, really well designed and flexible template, i was set! instant sophistication and no added lag time due to scrutinizing the design during deadline crunches.
You can also control the compression much more effectively with ID, so making a PDF for the web and for print is easy.
PDF all the way. Powerpoints don't travel well... they have a weird way of always changing when they're shown on computers that aren't the one they were made on... slides get cut off, fonts shift around the screen, images move... Plus, with PDF, its easy to print the presentation into a booklet; powerpoint files are usually gigantic and take days to print. Every school presentation I've done for the last three years has been PDF, and I've never had a problem.
I see that kerning is available in PowerPoint 2007. Let's us make sure we use it if that's our medium.
Thank you, truevis. I agree with you 100%.
KERN, people. KERN!!!
but can you incorporate movies/animations/audiofiles in an indesign PDF? That's why I was always forced to use powerpoint...
pdfs..ctrl+L and you're set!
i used to use pdfs made from indesign. then i had to do 6 hours of lectures every week. ppt made that much easier.
in the end both software work well enough. ppt has its uses, so does in design. i must say kerning does not worry me much (sorry) but for combining flash with slides and for certain presentation techniques it makes sense to me to use ppt...
one thing i don't like in ppt is the poor GUI. In design is much better, no question about it....
whatever you decide on, create a template. when it comes down to createing a new presentation, wheater indesign or powerpoint, you're always limited on time. so a template can go a long way.
Templates, FTW
Powerpoints
An odd source, but good read on PPT and presentation overall. It cites a few good resources (Tufte) and the 18 slide by Captain Patriquin mentioned near the end is a can't miss.
The mention of kerning is to me a reason we fail at PPT and ID - far far far too much attention paid to detail and not the information being relayed. Don't get me wrong - make slides legible and asthetically tolerant. But I've never heard anyone say "omg, did you notice the W and A wasn't kerned?"
InDesign, or LaTeX + Beamer package. Powerpoint is awful.
LaTeX, really? I thought that was for science only. I know you can do lots with it but you need to know the code.
architerp: 'But I've never heard anyone say "omg, did you notice the W and A wasn't kerned?"'
I say it to myself.
But, I agree, there are much worse things to do during a presentation. Reading directly from the powerpoint -- grrr -- it's the worst.
Also, I've seen things like "Who's model is it?" on presentations. Much more disturbing than lack of kerning, of course.
Prezi.
I tend to use Indesign to create slides and then just throw them into PPT. That way I get the design capacity of Indesign with the presentation abilities of PPT, which is to say the ability to embed/support other media and have presenter notes.
For me it also depends on the presentation, size of the audience, how the presentation is done (just sent, or live, or group or...) and how much eye candy I need. But as a presenter, most the time I don't follow a linear script because you are 'reading' your audience and tailoring your presentation to those things that get them excited.
Honestly the best I've seen are web browser based using a database. It can be done within a pdf too. That's because if you are presenting, you don't need to talk about everything if it isn't what they are into. But you need everything so you can adjust to the situation. In the leave packet, you leave it with them to browse through if a particular project caught their eye. They can learn more than your 20 minutes allowed you to say or expand upon if you leave them with more information to browse through.
The presentation itself is more like flirting.... You're hoping they'll call after you leave wanting to see you again.
InDesign allows you to refresh your links when you photoshop out that pesky smoke detector.
InD all the way- Powerpoint layouts and templates are just sad....
PDF can't do space ship sound effects (mic drop)
POWERPOINT WINS
U in Design people are stupid motherfuc....ing ridiculous.
in terms of easy using and faster POWERPOINT is way superior.
and it looks the f....ing same
You clearly have not used InDesign.
use monospace fonts. you don't have to kern shit
keynote?
for design presentation indesign is always more flexible and better quality output. but a lot of things end up needing to get shared for client's internal use, working with the engineers, marketing team, etc. so sometimes PPT is great just because it's quick and anyone can edit it without the source files.
If I could use only one, I'd actually pick PPT just because it's a lot less flexible. Sometimes the constraint forces people to focus on the content more than the format. And it's easier to make quick changes outside the office as you wait for a client meeting.