the way things are going, were gonna have another Republican President....
Fred Scharmen
Mar 20, 08 4:14 pm
For once, I kind of agree with mdler.
mdler
Mar 20, 08 4:23 pm
they cannot even unite their own party....
Apurimac
Mar 20, 08 4:35 pm
I pray Barack survives the next round of primaries, but considering recent events my prophecy that he is un-electable due to his race may come true.
I mean come the fuck on, how may presidents, wanna-be-presidents, et al, have hob-nobbed with crazy white pastors? Falwell and Pat Buchanan are just as bad as Wright coming from the opposing direction. That, my friends is the "Black Tax" in action.
brian buchalski
Mar 20, 08 4:35 pm
any chance that obama barack will run in the general election as an independent if hilary clinton gets the nomination? a three-headed race to the finish line could be fun
Apurimac
Mar 20, 08 4:39 pm
He'll be toast, best thing to do for him if he loses the nomination is keep his head down till 2012, get some more street cred in DC, and have the Wright thing fade into collective memory.
That man will be president someday I know it, but it will be a long time from now when Gen X and Y form the bulk of the electorate.
vado retro
Mar 20, 08 4:49 pm
barack needs to head on over to the 700 club and talk to pat robertson about how those sinners down in new orleans deserved that hurricane.
Apurimac
Mar 20, 08 4:58 pm
He'd have the nomination locked up in a heartbeat.
evilplatypus
Mar 20, 08 5:03 pm
I cant believe the Clinton's media machine has indeed put fear, self doubt and cynism back to the forefront of your minds.
He is winning. He cant lose, unless the doubt is allowed to fester. what are the supporters from the last states going to do? Play dead? Hell no. Theyre going to come out in bigger waves even IF he loses and make it 60-40, 55-45 etc so he wins the delegate race.
Plus McCain just isnt an appealing choice for president for the right or Left. Hes a great man, but Im afraid not going to be a good president.
ff33º
Mar 20, 08 5:03 pm
oh no, not another political thread...I am going to go start another Thread about the MArch1 degree to balance it out.
Apurimac
Mar 20, 08 5:06 pm
stop it ff33, just stop it. Don't even joke about that.
drums please, Fab?
Mar 20, 08 5:06 pm
yes, you can
Apurimac
Mar 20, 08 5:27 pm
no FRaC, its we can, there is no YOU in OBAMUNISM.
Antisthenes
Mar 20, 08 5:49 pm
you mean y is Hillary so stupid she can't read the numbers and wants to cheat and really hurt her parties chances and thus letting another war criminal to the history of earth?
ps mccain is no great man he is a weak man who is selling is 'so called soul', to the powers of old who want to stay there and he would be perfectly complicit with the ongoing worldwide atrocities as long as there is financial gain.
ff33º
Mar 20, 08 5:49 pm
oh shit ,..here we go.....
mdler
Mar 20, 08 5:59 pm
she is as bad as Bush when it comes to the truth
ryanj
Mar 20, 08 7:19 pm
this thread is 'exhibit a' as to why the democratic party cannot unite itself
Emilio
Mar 20, 08 8:01 pm
Why are politicians so f***in stupid?
Why are people so f***in stupid?
You know, it's so easy for us to sit at our computers and blast the political process and the parties through these threads, but let's not forget it ain't no easy thing to get someone elected, and you're bound to make a lot of mistakes.
Imagine if all architectural commissions were awarded through a popular vote and you had to compete with three or four other architects.
There would be a full scale media circus looking into and questioning every little crappy project you've ever done, or whether you ever smoked pot or kicked a dog or lived in a bad design.
The other architects would release slanderous bile about your designs and talent, but would deny doing so.
The pastor of your church would shout from the pulpit that you are such a great architect you remind him of Albert Speer - and you have to explain why he said that.
Almost every single thing you say in defense of your design would be misinterpreted by the media, on the internet, and by the competing architects.
The voting to pick the winning design would be spread out over a year and require you to travel to practically every state in the country, and sometimes debate the other architects directly.
How many projects do you think you would actually get, and would you ever, in your right fucking mind, want to be an architect?
(Shit, I think I just described pretty much what happened in the Ground Zero process...)
Living in Gin
Mar 20, 08 8:07 pm
If you ask a bunch of Democrats to form a firing squad, they'd stand in a circle.
Emilio
Mar 20, 08 8:11 pm
If you asked a bunch of architects to form a firing squad, they'd have to do draw it first.
Emilio
Mar 20, 08 8:12 pm
If you asked a bunch of Republican to form a firing squad, they'd deny the existance of the firing squad.
****melt
Mar 21, 08 4:06 pm
Seriously Emilio... are you like my long lost siblings? Another individual who actually sees the forest through the trees. Thank you.
Emilio
Mar 21, 08 4:27 pm
SIS!! where have you been? :D
(I always did want a sister...)
and thank you, fellow forest watcher.
snook_dude
Mar 21, 08 4:46 pm
If Hillary gets the nod......and wins....then her husband would be a lobbist for foreign countries....or would he be her advisor. I find it also of interest that contributions to Presidential Libaries do not have
to be identified or accounted for. So Bill is building a big war fund while working on the campaign.
I was glad to see Governor Richardson step forward for Obama.
Antisthenes
Mar 21, 08 4:50 pm
Richardson is big on legalizing weed, i was hoping more for snoop dog as VP
zoroaster
Mar 22, 08 12:57 am
Obama should still win the nomination... the question will be how much he will be damaged from the Wright controversy -- but, then again, he would have had to face this sort of thing sooner or later, and better to get some of it out of the way now (and, cut his teeth a little for the general election). (At least, that's the optimistic view.)
His lead in delegates really is too much to overcome, and from what I've read the superdelegates are still leaning toward him (despite this rough patch).
mdler
Mar 22, 08 1:59 am
the thing about the Wright controversy is that if Obama were white and Wright was hating on homosexuals everything would be fine
Apurimac
Mar 22, 08 2:03 am
i said that about 16 posts ago
mdler
Mar 22, 08 2:33 am
sorry
zoroaster
Mar 22, 08 3:02 am
Wright blamed us bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki for 9/11, but Falwell and Pat Robertson blamed homosexuals, liberals and feminists.. I think I like Wright's moral ambiguity better than theirs if that's any indication...
mdler
Mar 22, 08 3:11 am
9/11 = inside job....carry on
mdler
Mar 22, 08 2:55 pm
like I have always said, Rebublicans may be doing the wrong shit, but at least they are getting shit done
conormac
Mar 22, 08 4:31 pm
I think Obama's going to pull through -
1. a politician with no scandal is a little creepy (what's hiding?) I think this crazy pastor thing, combined w. the real estate sleeze, makes him seem real, like we've seen the worst and not only is it not that bad, but he has a really great attitude about both...
2. Hillary is proving herself to be every bit the machine politician that people are trying to get away from.
and,
3. McCain isn't really much of a republican anyway, so I think a lot of the moderate repubs, as well as the hard-core right wing libertarian types, don't see much difference and would rather see a great moderate dem than a so-so moderate republican who might compromise to party.
ps how did we get three fantastic candidates? Remember the last election? what happened?!?
drums please, Fab?
Mar 22, 08 7:20 pm
obama is not a moderate democrat
b3tadine[sutures]
May 19, 20 7:23 pm
this didn't age well.
drums please, Fab?
May 19, 20 10:55 pm
beta you're right. compared to the lovely airhead AOC socialists of 2020 the obama of '08 was a moderate. carry on!
drums please, Fab?
May 19, 20 10:57 pm
and as the thread says, democrats are still FUCKING stupid!
the way things are going, were gonna have another Republican President....
For once, I kind of agree with mdler.
they cannot even unite their own party....
I pray Barack survives the next round of primaries, but considering recent events my prophecy that he is un-electable due to his race may come true.
I mean come the fuck on, how may presidents, wanna-be-presidents, et al, have hob-nobbed with crazy white pastors? Falwell and Pat Buchanan are just as bad as Wright coming from the opposing direction. That, my friends is the "Black Tax" in action.
any chance that obama barack will run in the general election as an independent if hilary clinton gets the nomination? a three-headed race to the finish line could be fun
He'll be toast, best thing to do for him if he loses the nomination is keep his head down till 2012, get some more street cred in DC, and have the Wright thing fade into collective memory.
That man will be president someday I know it, but it will be a long time from now when Gen X and Y form the bulk of the electorate.
barack needs to head on over to the 700 club and talk to pat robertson about how those sinners down in new orleans deserved that hurricane.
He'd have the nomination locked up in a heartbeat.
I cant believe the Clinton's media machine has indeed put fear, self doubt and cynism back to the forefront of your minds.
He is winning. He cant lose, unless the doubt is allowed to fester. what are the supporters from the last states going to do? Play dead? Hell no. Theyre going to come out in bigger waves even IF he loses and make it 60-40, 55-45 etc so he wins the delegate race.
Plus McCain just isnt an appealing choice for president for the right or Left. Hes a great man, but Im afraid not going to be a good president.
oh no, not another political thread...I am going to go start another Thread about the MArch1 degree to balance it out.
stop it ff33, just stop it. Don't even joke about that.
yes, you can
no FRaC, its we can, there is no YOU in OBAMUNISM.
you mean y is Hillary so stupid she can't read the numbers and wants to cheat and really hurt her parties chances and thus letting another war criminal to the history of earth?
ps mccain is no great man he is a weak man who is selling is 'so called soul', to the powers of old who want to stay there and he would be perfectly complicit with the ongoing worldwide atrocities as long as there is financial gain.
oh shit ,..here we go.....
she is as bad as Bush when it comes to the truth
this thread is 'exhibit a' as to why the democratic party cannot unite itself
Why are politicians so f***in stupid?
Why are people so f***in stupid?
You know, it's so easy for us to sit at our computers and blast the political process and the parties through these threads, but let's not forget it ain't no easy thing to get someone elected, and you're bound to make a lot of mistakes.
Imagine if all architectural commissions were awarded through a popular vote and you had to compete with three or four other architects.
There would be a full scale media circus looking into and questioning every little crappy project you've ever done, or whether you ever smoked pot or kicked a dog or lived in a bad design.
The other architects would release slanderous bile about your designs and talent, but would deny doing so.
The pastor of your church would shout from the pulpit that you are such a great architect you remind him of Albert Speer - and you have to explain why he said that.
Almost every single thing you say in defense of your design would be misinterpreted by the media, on the internet, and by the competing architects.
The voting to pick the winning design would be spread out over a year and require you to travel to practically every state in the country, and sometimes debate the other architects directly.
How many projects do you think you would actually get, and would you ever, in your right fucking mind, want to be an architect?
(Shit, I think I just described pretty much what happened in the Ground Zero process...)
If you ask a bunch of Democrats to form a firing squad, they'd stand in a circle.
If you asked a bunch of architects to form a firing squad, they'd have to do draw it first.
If you asked a bunch of Republican to form a firing squad, they'd deny the existance of the firing squad.
Seriously Emilio... are you like my long lost siblings? Another individual who actually sees the forest through the trees. Thank you.
SIS!! where have you been? :D
(I always did want a sister...)
and thank you, fellow forest watcher.
If Hillary gets the nod......and wins....then her husband would be a lobbist for foreign countries....or would he be her advisor. I find it also of interest that contributions to Presidential Libaries do not have
to be identified or accounted for. So Bill is building a big war fund while working on the campaign.
I was glad to see Governor Richardson step forward for Obama.
Richardson is big on legalizing weed, i was hoping more for snoop dog as VP
Obama should still win the nomination... the question will be how much he will be damaged from the Wright controversy -- but, then again, he would have had to face this sort of thing sooner or later, and better to get some of it out of the way now (and, cut his teeth a little for the general election). (At least, that's the optimistic view.)
His lead in delegates really is too much to overcome, and from what I've read the superdelegates are still leaning toward him (despite this rough patch).
the thing about the Wright controversy is that if Obama were white and Wright was hating on homosexuals everything would be fine
i said that about 16 posts ago
sorry
Wright blamed us bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki for 9/11, but Falwell and Pat Robertson blamed homosexuals, liberals and feminists.. I think I like Wright's moral ambiguity better than theirs if that's any indication...
9/11 = inside job....carry on
like I have always said, Rebublicans may be doing the wrong shit, but at least they are getting shit done
I think Obama's going to pull through -
1. a politician with no scandal is a little creepy (what's hiding?) I think this crazy pastor thing, combined w. the real estate sleeze, makes him seem real, like we've seen the worst and not only is it not that bad, but he has a really great attitude about both...
2. Hillary is proving herself to be every bit the machine politician that people are trying to get away from.
and,
3. McCain isn't really much of a republican anyway, so I think a lot of the moderate repubs, as well as the hard-core right wing libertarian types, don't see much difference and would rather see a great moderate dem than a so-so moderate republican who might compromise to party.
ps how did we get three fantastic candidates? Remember the last election? what happened?!?
obama is not a moderate democrat
this didn't age well.
beta you're right. compared to the lovely airhead AOC socialists of 2020 the obama of '08 was a moderate. carry on!
and as the thread says, democrats are still FUCKING stupid!