I have been wondering this because many people believe that architects are rich, but architects do not see it the same way as other people. Where that idea comes from? Furthermore, I think that people respect as a physical thing but not as a career or profession because Architects do not get paid so well, and people also travel many times just to see architecture in cities. And, I read an article about that people believe that architects are rich. Do you think that people see architecture with more importance right now? Of course, I also understand that not many architects believe this because they are not paid well, but I do not try to refer to the economic side. What I mean is that people admire more architecture right now than before. Well, tell me your opinion.
RH-Arch
Aug 28, 12 12:28 am
What would the AIA do? The best ones to solve it are the schools reducing the number of students they graduate with a professional architecture degree. They usually reduce numbers but far later than when they should have.
rcz1001
Jun 15, 21 4:11 am
Reduce the number of schools NAAB accredited by limiting the number of schools that can be NAAB accredited. Probably a problematic issue. Raise the requirement for licensure to a Masters level or doctoral degree maybe an option to really cut down how many people can meet the licensure requirement. Lengthen the process of licensure like increasing AXP to 12 years of AXP in addition to 5 year degree or experience in lieu of a degree. Then make the exam more difficult and more comprehensive requiring not just passing the AXP but various exams relating to the ICC exams for plan reviewers and inspectors and code officials AND also the PE exams for Structural and also the PE exam for Architectural Engineering, Mechanical, Electrical Engineering (Power), and I think also Plumbing and possible a few others. PASS THEM ALL and then you'll be licensed in addition your JE or state exam on the laws. If we did that, it will be a very intensive process and I would say very few will pass the rigor of all that. That will certainly have an effect on reducing the number of people getting licensed. Now, anyone up to meeting that standard including also requiring existing architects to pass those additional exams as a condition of renewal after a 5 to 10 year window where they'll have to pass those exams by then to renew after that time period comes due otherwise, license goes Inactive. Now, that would be grueling for sure and impact the number of licensees but I suspect that will be very HIGHLY unpopular.
neilnolski
Jun 10, 21 11:39 pm
Architects gets good pay depends on where you are and who's your employer. In a country where there's a vast amount of supply of architects, the professional fee would be compromise due to a lot of competition.
Chad Miller
Jun 14, 21 2:33 pm
You have half of that correct . . .
archiwutm8
Jun 13, 21 7:44 pm
It's probably cause all the turtle necks that architects wear, we need to stop wearing those.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 13, 21 10:29 pm
I can't image why anyone would think architects are rich.
proto
Jun 14, 21 2:24 pm
people who think architects are rich: "but I just need some blueprints for the City..."
Chad Miller
Jun 14, 21 2:34 pm
. . . " so this should be easy. You shouldn't have to charge more that $300 for this."
rcz1001
Jun 14, 21 3:36 pm
LOL.... yeah.... the typical (_________) that we have to deal with for clients for a lot of residential projects comparing to the price of stock house plans. Ugh..... stock house plans are plans that have been sold multiple times and thus reused plans NOT plans that are one-off custom plans. Just like it doesn't cost only $40 to make a video game even though that maybe the price you pay for that game..... because the cost of the development work of that video game is distributed over the sales at a particular price point.... which requires a minimum number of sales of usually 100,000s of sales in order to break-even..... sometimes, the sales needs to be over a million sales to break even. Stock house plans follows a similar principle where they have to sell the same plans multiple times until enough purchases have been made to break even on the expense. If you don't make break-even, you don't have an profit. You have a loss. In short, you are spending more money than you are earning.... which means... you're on the path of going out of business. Why don't clients have any sort of intelligence and sense in their heads when they think a one-off custom designed home for them is going to be cheap like stock house plans. Architects are selling books. They are selling a service resulting in a custom design for their project.... and custom means.... ONE off. It means, there is only ONE exactly like it..... just like a complete custom car designed by Kindig or others. They sure aren't going to be paying a few hundred dollars. What the hell. Architects aren't necessarily rich. Some may be well to do in the sense that they aren't living on poverty level income but most are not rich like Bill Gates. We just don't get that kind of income from designing buildings.
rcz1001
Jun 14, 21 3:43 pm
Professional blueprints can involve dozens of 100s of sheets of 24x36 to 36x48 paper full of technical drawings, specifications, and such. Often requiring easily a couple hundred hours to prepare the construction documents after already doing design development documents before that and schematic drawings before that. The services can easily involve over a 1000 hours for a relatively modest size custom design home.
proto
Jun 14, 21 11:34 pm
wtf
randomised
Jun 15, 21 2:38 pm
the schools earn a lot of money from those students, they’re really not going to lower the amount of students, they’ll just be churning out fresh grads and release them into the wild as usual and letting the market do its magic...
shellarchitect
Jun 15, 21 10:53 pm
I’m an architect but people think I’m rich because my wife is hot.
They might assume I have an awesome personality, but they usually find out the truth about that pretty quickly
I have been wondering this because many people believe that architects are rich, but architects do not see it the same way as other people. Where that idea comes from? Furthermore, I think that people respect as a physical thing but not as a career or profession because Architects do not get paid so well, and people also travel many times just to see architecture in cities. And, I read an article about that people believe that architects are rich. Do you think that people see architecture with more importance right now? Of course, I also understand that not many architects believe this because they are not paid well, but I do not try to refer to the economic side. What I mean is that people admire more architecture right now than before. Well, tell me your opinion.
What would the AIA do? The best ones to solve it are the schools reducing the number of students they graduate with a professional architecture degree. They usually reduce numbers but far later than when they should have.
Reduce the number of schools NAAB accredited by limiting the number of schools that can be NAAB accredited. Probably a problematic issue. Raise the requirement for licensure to a Masters level or doctoral degree maybe an option to really cut down how many people can meet the licensure requirement. Lengthen the process of licensure like increasing AXP to 12 years of AXP in addition to 5 year degree or experience in lieu of a degree. Then make the exam more difficult and more comprehensive requiring not just passing the AXP but various exams relating to the ICC exams for plan reviewers and inspectors and code officials AND also the PE exams for Structural and also the PE exam for Architectural Engineering, Mechanical, Electrical Engineering (Power), and I think also Plumbing and possible a few others. PASS THEM ALL and then you'll be licensed in addition your JE or state exam on the laws. If we did that, it will be a very intensive process and I would say very few will pass the rigor of all that. That will certainly have an effect on reducing the number of people getting licensed. Now, anyone up to meeting that standard including also requiring existing architects to pass those additional exams as a condition of renewal after a 5 to 10 year window where they'll have to pass those exams by then to renew after that time period comes due otherwise, license goes Inactive. Now, that would be grueling for sure and impact the number of licensees but I suspect that will be very HIGHLY unpopular.
Architects gets good pay depends on where you are and who's your employer. In a country where there's a vast amount of supply of architects, the professional fee would be compromise due to a lot of competition.
You have half of that correct . . .
It's probably cause all the turtle necks that architects wear, we need to stop wearing those.
I can't image why anyone would think architects are rich.
people who think architects are rich: "but I just need some blueprints for the City..."
. . . " so this should be easy. You shouldn't have to charge more that $300 for this."
LOL.... yeah.... the typical (_________) that we have to deal with for clients for a lot of residential projects comparing to the price of stock house plans. Ugh..... stock house plans are plans that have been sold multiple times and thus reused plans NOT plans that are one-off custom plans. Just like it doesn't cost only $40 to make a video game even though that maybe the price you pay for that game..... because the cost of the development work of that video game is distributed over the sales at a particular price point.... which requires a minimum number of sales of usually 100,000s of sales in order to break-even..... sometimes, the sales needs to be over a million sales to break even. Stock house plans follows a similar principle where they have to sell the same plans multiple times until enough purchases have been made to break even on the expense. If you don't make break-even, you don't have an profit. You have a loss. In short, you are spending more money than you are earning.... which means... you're on the path of going out of business. Why don't clients have any sort of intelligence and sense in their heads when they think a one-off custom designed home for them is going to be cheap like stock house plans. Architects are selling books. They are selling a service resulting in a custom design for their project.... and custom means.... ONE off. It means, there is only ONE exactly like it..... just like a complete custom car designed by Kindig or others. They sure aren't going to be paying a few hundred dollars. What the hell. Architects aren't necessarily rich. Some may be well to do in the sense that they aren't living on poverty level income but most are not rich like Bill Gates. We just don't get that kind of income from designing buildings.
Professional blueprints can involve dozens of 100s of sheets of 24x36 to 36x48 paper full of technical drawings, specifications, and such. Often requiring easily a couple hundred hours to prepare the construction documents after already doing design development documents before that and schematic drawings before that. The services can easily involve over a 1000 hours for a relatively modest size custom design home.
wtf
the schools earn a lot of money from those students, they’re really not going to lower the amount of students, they’ll just be churning out fresh grads and release them into the wild as usual and letting the market do its magic...
I’m an architect but people think I’m rich because my wife is hot.
They might assume I have an awesome personality, but they usually find out the truth about that pretty quickly