I am starting a new thread that is about other threads. You can talk about other discussions taking a place in Archinect and make cross references to a particular link, picture, response and whatever else you deem necessary or entertaining or thought provoking about the other thread. thus the name: Thread Central
here are some examples of comments that comes to mind:
* hey did you read on --------- thread ------- thinks frank gehry is good. hahahaharhar..
or,
*i can't believe he said that. how stupid of him. asshole.on top of it he is got hundreds of posts. gimme a break.
or,
* this is the best thread.. fuck the others..
or,
*****Thread Alert******
read the -----thread yet??? there is a dog fight going on between ----- and-----.it is about gondolas and pollution in Venice..see you there.
or,
* yeaah, i don't read that thread either. its kind a boring.
or,
*i am thinking about starting a discussion about ------------- ---- ---- will you guys in Thread Central post in it and say wow it a great thread?. it was about time 'somebody' (insert my name please) picked up on it.. and discuss it?
like whatever..
joseffischer
May 10, 21 10:29 am
Has this happened to you? Coming in late in CDs on a large project with a bunch to do. Really low-level busy work like "create the restroom sheets" a task that at my level doesn't really need explanation... sure I can help out.
Caveat, the contractor is tracking changes, so don't move things around on the sheets for the sake of clarity or to fit more views. Leave grid lines where they are even if they're overlapping the titleblock. Leave inconsistent sheet numbering as it is, or else the contractor software won't notice the changes. Make new sheets for any new views even if it could fit on an old sheet without having to move old views.
I mean I get it, but that's the contractor being extra lazy and I want to sneak in a caveat somewhere being like "sheet A5.00-5.02 those were before my time and I wasn't allowed to touch them, sorry for the mess"
SneakyPete
May 10, 21 11:50 am
Sounds like the contractor needs to read the contract? Track changes all you like, but those gridlines need fixing. I wager if your team submitted a better set with a list of housekeeping changes along side so they could simply ignore most of the (bluebeam) differences they find, they might even thank you.
tduds
May 10, 21 12:15 pm
That's my nightmare.
tduds
May 10, 21 12:17 pm
Frankly if the drawing set is still that disorganized & incomplete it should not be shown outside the office. I try to emphasize a clean break between DD /Pricing / Bid / Permit / IFC. Once the name is changed all revisions reset to zero and you* better act like the previous sets didn't even exist. Read the drawings, that's your job. (*You = contractor. but also everyone on the team.
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joseffischer
May 10, 21 12:28 pm
@sneaky just to clarify, the grids are in the right place, their 2D revit extents are just not adjusted for each view, making it look sloppy.. I think they're using BIM360 though I haven't messed with it myself yet on a project so I don't know if it has some weird constraints. Would have namedropped bluebeam had I known as I'm familiar with that.
@tduds I'd love if we stopped sending DD sets out as messy as we do, but it usually doesn't matter for your exact reasoning. Contractor got involved for 50% DD pricing and now that I'm part of a growing team for CDs, thinks that the DD set should be some sort of starting point.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 21 12:51 pm
Joe, I'm in a similar situation this morning. I've been asked to speed up a new set of CDs for a repeat corporate client. We've done several dozens of these so far and have staff dedicated solely to those projects so I've only casually wondered into their space once or twice over the last 5 years. Anyways, It's taking all of my strength this morning not to tear it apart. It's almost like they deliberately are trying to rebel against every known office standard and basic drawing legibility practice... and, to make things worse, their dims are set to round-up but have not drafted the grids to round numbers. What's this, 40'- 0 3/16"? Cad will just show 40. we're good. Eugh. Very happy that I'm only a visitor to this project.
SneakyPete
May 10, 21 1:03 pm
Do you have an LOD document in your contract? If not, and the contractor is using BIM360, do they have access to your model? If so how are you making sure they look at the sheets and not the model?
SneakyPete
May 10, 21 1:04 pm
Someone needs to explain to the contractor that the clean break that tduds is espousing (and I support) protects all players in the game. Everyone loses money when the vestiges of aborted DD efforts haunt the construction of a project.
joseffischer
May 10, 21 1:16 pm
We typically don't have LODs sadly enough, though I've pushed it on my projects quite successfully. I think the contractor just has their own standards built into their contract to use 360... since I helped on the site that went out on Friday, I know we had to drop all our assigned sheets into a folder "to be uploaded" to the client's proprietary document management (state govt) that then gets "handed off" to the contractor who is using 360... but really I couldn't say how the contract is set up. That info wasn't conveyed in my 5 minute debrief and I only have access to that part of the folder tree on jobs I PM.
curtkram
May 10, 21 1:35 pm
I had the same thing. the contractor shows me that if i move a keynote, it shows up as a change with their software. that's fine, i can try to accommodate them. i added doors to a door schedule, so the schedule got bigger and every door after that one now pops up as a change. the contractor starts walking through how i can change my schedule to make his life easier. nope. i'll try to help, but you're just going to have to do some of this the old fashioned way and actually look at the drawing and understand the project.
thatsthat
May 10, 21 2:05 pm
Yes, this has happened to me on a previous project. I was brought in on, what I was told was, 95% CD set. Only to look through and see no code review, details missing, wording of notes inconsistent, and products missing from the specs. I tried very hard to pitch in, but you can only do as much as the PM on the project allows. The code review was the only thing I refused to let go. I spotted some pretty blatant life-safety issues that the PM had refused to deal with. The boss made the team correct the issues; the PM was unhappy with me, but the boss was appreciative. I hate situations like this because you're expected to help but also not too much, and bite your tongue about the rest.
midlander
May 10, 21 8:06 pm
in china this kind of work is called "ass-wiping" and i think describes the nature and value of the work perfectly.
archanonymous
May 12, 21 10:05 am
@midlander I dunno about you but I consider wiping my ass correctly extremely important.
Chad Miller
May 12, 21 11:10 am
What if you have a bidet?
archanonymous
May 12, 21 11:41 am
Is the analog of bidet here just doing bridging docs and turning it over to the architect of record?
SneakyPete
May 12, 21 12:49 pm
The sprinkler system malfunctioned and we lost all of the documents in the deluge.
midlander
May 14, 21 11:28 am
to clarify the phrase ass-wiping i
midlander
May 14, 21 11:29 am
implies wiping up for someone else
Wilma Buttfit
May 11, 21 8:00 pm
Is anyone having more difficulty than ever getting permits?
archanonymous
May 12, 21 10:04 am
Yeah. My simple corrections took 8 weeks to review and it only took them 2 weeks to review the initial permit docs. The reason? The permit form literally got buried on the zoning reviewer's desk under a mountain of other shit and he forgot about it.
tduds
May 12, 21 11:46 am
Yep. Had a small TI in southern CA take 4 months for review earlier this year. A good 50% of that was hard copies sitting in a quarantine room between reviewers. What a ridiculously arcane solution.
Chad Miller
May 12, 21 12:43 pm
Here in western Colorado it's taking on average four moths to get a city planning review and building permit for new construction.
joseffischer
May 12, 21 12:48 pm
permits taking forever here as well, except on my jobs, 3 weeks tops, approved without comment. I'm magic : )
Wilma Buttfit
May 12, 21 1:25 pm
I have some flying through with no friction at all and some getting held up. Little reason why.
Wilma Buttfit
May 12, 21 1:27 pm
Or I know why. It's stuff like people are on permanent vacation, too busy to care, don't read their email or answer their phone, people are confusing, aren't taking the time to look at things and think, clients trying to do my job and not doing their job.
archanonymous
May 12, 21 4:33 pm
uuuunnnnnf gimme that friction mr plan reviewer.
Wilma Buttfit
May 13, 21 6:33 am
what if the plan reviewer is a lady?
archanonymous
May 13, 21 10:44 am
Whatever floats your boat. I like my plan reviewers lookin' as close to Mark Brandanowitz from Parks and Rec as possible.
this article is an excellent summary of the absurdity of college rankings which should be required reading before any posts requesting advice on picking which school to attend.
axonapoplectic
May 12, 21 2:25 pm
Just got a call from a headhunter about becoming an owner’s rep. They called on a cell number that I only use for work. The only people who should have that number are clients, GCs, consultants, and coworkers.
he was telling me he got my number off linked in, but I don’t have any number associated with my linked in account. Just seems fishy - who gave him my number?
I have no experience dealing with headhunters, and I don’t really know what an owner’s rep job responsibilities are aside from the ones I’ve interacted with during CA. I am sort of interested, but I’m also very wary.
axonapoplectic
May 12, 21 2:31 pm
Do I need to carry liability insurance as an owner’s rep?
Miles Jaffe
May 12, 21 2:31 pm
Cold calling, trying to turn a dime. On you.
Everyday Architect
May 12, 21 3:07 pm
I had a headhunter email me recently saying they got my email from LinkedIn. And while it was the email associated with my LinkedIn account, the message didn't come through LinkedIn. Made me wonder if they have a higher level of access to user data as a headhunter (through payment I'm sure) that let them see my email without using the contacting features of LinkedIn.
OR ...
They got my email some other way and lied to make it seem less creepy.
Almost every interaction I've had with head hunters and recruiters have left me feeling like I need to take a shower.
Everyday Architect
May 12, 21 3:10 pm
To your question about being an owner's rep ... I don't have any experience other than I know some former co-workers have left to go to owners over the years. They've all gone to large healthcare clients who have teams of representatives on payroll. My guess is the owner would cover any insurance requirements if needed, but I don't know if any would realistically be needed.
axonapoplectic
May 12, 21 4:14 pm
Yeah - I felt icky after that conversation. I have no idea how he got my number. I’m not following up with him.
Non Sequitur
May 12, 21 4:42 pm
I've received a number of phone calls from head-hunters... and my office extension is not listed on my LinkedIN page. I eventually figured out that the headhunters would call our reception and ask for me without actually stating their reasons so BOOM, now they have a direct line to me. I turn them down with gusto when they do that. I got one such call once and after I turned them down, they phoned my coworker who sat directly behind me.
Bench
May 13, 21 12:51 pm
Almost every interaction I've had with head hunters and recruiters have left me feeling like I need to take a shower.
Can confirm that I have never actually had a pleasant conversation with a headhunter before... the unknown methods for getting my private contact info are very creepy.
randomised
May 12, 21 4:23 pm
Helped a friend out with a huge art/design project the studio she manages will premiere in New York in the fall. So nice to work with my hands all day, only sat down for lunch...I want more days like that!
Miles Jaffe
May 12, 21 7:35 pm
Work can be so very rewarding. If only we could dispense with the money part.
Non Sequitur
May 12, 21 5:15 pm
Just got an email from my main arch association. They are making it mandatory for all licensed archs to take at least 1 cont-ed course in a brand new category they call "equity, diversity, and inclusion".
They also just announced a partnership with a for-profit consultation/training firm who will, surprise surprise, provide such cont-ed courses.
As much as I applaud the effort, I am not too certain about how I feel with the sole-sourcing (and use of our dues) and general wise-guru/group hug verbiage of the announcement. Will hold off judgement until I get my hands on the cont-ed outlines tho.
Anyone else's association do something similar?
archanonymous
May 12, 21 6:40 pm
We had to take a mandatory harassment and discrimination training. They did promote a few providers of this course, but ultimately our internal HR was able to purchase an online training that satisfied the requirements for some group rate.
Almosthip
May 12, 21 6:43 pm
Reminds me of Radon requirements, being lobbied and implemented by the only Radon testing company around
bowling_ball
May 12, 21 10:19 pm
My association hasn't made that category mandatory BUT within the last year we had an optional 3-hour diversity course. It was a disaster. The moderator was openly racist against white people and was combative, and didn't give any relevant advice at all. Several people left the zoom meeting during the event. I was hoping to glean some insights that would be helpful to my position, but it never came close. At least it was free and I got 3 hours of credits for it.
SneakyPete
May 12, 21 10:32 pm
Our insurer requires harassment training for all managers.
b3tadine[sutures]
May 13, 21 9:21 am
I’m curious to hear about the "openly racist against white people" story.
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 10:54 am
I could tell you a few.
mightyaa
May 13, 21 10:55 am
Yep, my corporate overlords have mandatory training classes; diversity and inclusion, sexual harassments, anti-bribery training, anti-money laundering, finacial sanctions, information security awareness, and a few others. My IL arch license requires sexual harrassment certified training if I remember right; hoping my corporate one works, but is based on England's/Euro laws rather than US.
tduds
May 13, 21 11:26 am
I'm unclear, Non: is this now required to maintain your license?Are they instituting a D&E credit in addition to your HSW credits? Or is this just to maintain local membership? We're mid-way through an implicit bias / equity lens training at my office and it seems to be well received by pretty much everyone. No issues so far, or at least none that have come up vocally.
Non Sequitur
May 13, 21 11:29 am
Tduds, it’s unclear if it is a new category to be completed on every 2 year cycle but the wording certainly implied it was a perpetual thing.
Jaetten
May 13, 21 10:21 am
Who needs CAD standards?!... Just name drawings and files however you like!
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 10:42 am
Quiet troll.
Jaetten
May 13, 21 10:48 am
How rude!
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 10:53 am
Only a thinly veiled troll would say that. :P
Jaetten
May 13, 21 10:55 am
You've googled my name haven't you? :)
Jaetten, or rather jätten or jætten - the correct spellings, do indeed mean 'the troll' or 'the giant'
tduds
May 13, 21 11:23 am
The best thing about standards is there are so many to choose from!
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 11:51 am
Jaetten - I didn't look you up. I just read your post. Troll.
Jaetten
May 13, 21 12:03 pm
Not sure I see the link, but ok.
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 1:01 pm
You don't see how your post was an antagonistic attempt to get responses? It may be a language / cultural thing.
It's OK though. I thought you were just being cheeky.
randomised
May 13, 21 3:24 pm
sometimes coming up with a file name is the only creative endeavour of a day...
Chad Miller
May 13, 21 4:23 pm
Sad but true.
Everyday Architect
May 13, 21 5:12 pm
randomised, I didn’t know you worked at my first office too. The other creative endeavor was when someone would forget to log-off or lock their computer when they went to lunch. All sorts of creative things you can do with their autoCAD shortcuts during a lunch break.
Non Sequitur
May 13, 21 5:24 pm
EA, I'd get Peter Zumthor on you within a metric second if I found out you touched my settings.
Everyday Architect
May 13, 21 7:15 pm
Which is why I learned to always "windows + L" when you step away from your computer. But yeah, it was all fun and games until you had it happen to you.
I was always nice about it and only changed a couple things I could quickly change back. I myself was this close to going Peter Zumthor on someone who "couldn't remember" what they changed on my computer when they did it to me once.
tduds
May 13, 21 7:58 pm
If you ever want to give someone a complete meltdown: Screenshot the desktop. Make the screenshot the desktop background. Hide desktop shortcuts. Hide the taskbar. Sit back and watch.
Wood Guy
May 13, 21 8:04 pm
You evil bastard
Miles Jaffe
May 13, 21 8:43 pm
That's hilarious, and I would ____ anyone who did that to me.
randomised
May 14, 21 1:39 am
done that tduds...was great fun to watch.
Jaetten
May 14, 21 4:06 am
Chad. more of a 'rant' than anything else... What's the point of spending time on setting up a cad system when people don't use it....
Never mind.
curtkram
May 14, 21 9:40 am
jaetten. the goal is not to get work done. it's to fill your day with committee meetings.
JLC-1
May 14, 21 11:15 am
what is that "going zumthor" about? is he temperamental?
Non Sequitur
May 14, 21 11:26 am
JLC-1... see recent deaths of 2 famous architects within 24hrs from each other. I don't think we even need a trial.
Everyday Architect
May 16, 21 3:06 am
tduds, I’d do that to my big brother growing up. So much fun. He once made the mouse pointer a single pixel. Probably less effective with touchscreens becoming more prevalent.
Another one was to open the properties of the desktop shortcuts and make them open different folders and programs. Double click Revit for example and it opens the archinect website. Easy enough to work around but frustrating until you realize what’s going on.
Non Sequitur
May 16, 21 7:42 am
What about removing the old ball from the mouse trick?
Wine bar "research" on the boss' dime on a sunny Friday afternoon. This job does occasionally have it's perks. Happy weekend everybody.
citizen
May 16, 21 3:14 pm
Yesterday I had a really nice reunion with folks in the small firm I was part of for twenty years, before leaving 15 years ago. I've stayed in touch and stopped by for chat or lunch a couple of times a year; they continued to invite me to their holiday bash every year; and I've invited some of them to be guest critics in design reviews over the years. Five years ago the junior partner left (amicably) to join a big A/E firm, and took a handful of people with him. The senior partner kept the office and a couple of folks to focus just on housing projects. At 85, he told me yesterday he's 'thinking' about 'possibly' going into 'semi' retirement, though he's not sure what he'll do with himself.
The occasion was the closing of the physical office space, as people have moved on and the remainders work at/from home. Sad to say a final goodbye to the converted storefront where I cut my architectural teeth, and learned the field (and adulthood) from two amazing and wonderful guys-- and their wives, both around all the time and very involved in the arts and academia. I'm a big 'place' and 'nostalgia' guy, so driving by and knowing I can't stop in there anymore is a bummer.
The great news is that the relationships continue, even with gaps of time. Hang around good people you admire, and maintain those relationships... that's the lesson I've learned.
geezertect
May 17, 21 9:00 am
Great post. In the end, all we have is our memories, and if you have good ones then it was all worthwhile.
Donna Sink
May 17, 21 12:48 pm
That's a good story, citizen. Getting older is wonderful in how it give perspective to previous experiences.
archanonymous
May 17, 21 12:53 pm
That's actually a great metric for choosing a place to work. "Would I stop by and hang out with these people after I no longer work here?"
Josh Mings
May 18, 21 6:06 pm
Correct - I still hang out / text my friends from my first office a lot.
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 9:50 am
I still speak with my old boss and mentor. Hell we're buddies on social media.
tduds
May 18, 21 8:57 pm
Looks like Igor is jealous of Theaster's swagger.
citizen
May 18, 21 9:17 pm
Now that's a coincidence. My cats are named Igor and Theaster. What are the odds?
randomised
May 19, 21 1:34 am
He’s jealous of his serpentine...
tduds
May 19, 21 12:29 pm
Good cat names.
Donna Sink
May 19, 21 11:58 am
OMG when I work in Revit I spend 2/3 of the day waiting for it to regenerate.
Almosthip
May 19, 21 12:15 pm
I feel like that's a hardware issue, not Revit's fault.
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 12:24 pm
Could also be user error. There are plenty of ways to cause a Revit model to run slowly.
Donna Sink
May 19, 21 1:08 pm
It’s a BIM 360 model, in the cloud, and it’s a huge project.
Non Sequitur
May 19, 21 1:11 pm
insert Donna yells at clouds meme.
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 1:12 pm
That is probably why. When you have a lot linked files the models take a bit to save. This gets worse if people are creating and copying in place families throughout the model.
b3tadine[sutures]
May 19, 21 1:28 pm
Worksets, Worksets, Worksets...
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 1:51 pm
Standards, Standards, Standards.
Non Sequitur
May 19, 21 2:12 pm
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thatsthat
May 19, 21 2:29 pm
I feel your pain. Go for a walk and get a coffee while you wait. :)
Donna Sink
May 19, 21 4:07 pm
I can LOL at myself for yelling at clouds, because it's true, but I also recently heard from a friend who's "putting together a team" for a larger firm opening a local office and wants me to send my resume and my first thought was "but will I have to use Revit?".
Non Sequitur
May 19, 21 4:18 pm
Donna, you don't need to use revit to write up your resume. MS Word, or even google docs is fine.
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 4:44 pm
You will have to use Revit though Donna. That's the profession.
joseffischer
May 19, 21 5:32 pm
so many grey hairs in our office that don't touch revit and don't even produce anymore... wonder if I can dye my hair grey and get out of production work
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 6:27 pm
If you're not working in Revit you're probably not too involved in design anymore. That is unless you're doing a lot of sketching or Sketchup work. :P
Donna Sink
May 19, 21 6:49 pm
Chad, we have two main designers in our office (principals) who don’t touch Revit - they use SketchUp. The other person who does significant design uses SketchUp for design then has become proficient enough in Revit to do some production ( small to medium projects). The design work I do (on small projects) is autocad with hand sketching on top, then autocad for production. My husband’s company does architecture-scaled projects and they only use rhino.
Chad Miller
May 19, 21 6:53 pm
I've never worked in a firm where 'designers' didn't also do production, at least occasionally. I use a combination of hand sketching and Revit for my design work. I know some say that Revit isn't good for design but I've never had an issue with it.
b3tadine[sutures]
May 19, 21 6:59 pm
Having used Revit since 2006, doing hospitals, on Lenovo laptops, the ability to not load, or unload burdensome worksets was a life saver.
bowling_ball
May 19, 21 11:34 pm
Confession time: I've never actually drawn a CD set. But my knowledge of how buildings actually get built is pretty darn good. Good enough to lead others who do the production.
midlander
May 19, 21 11:54 pm
me too... actually. I sometimes feel out of place here as someone who is mostly focused on lead design work. I do do production work through DD though and much prefer revit for that. still rhino and sketchup for the 3d design studies though.
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 9:15 am
I guess the upside to a slow Revit model is I've never gotten so focused and deep into the "flow" that I move faster than the computer and crash the drawing, which has happened to me many times in Autocad. If my Revit file crashes it's just because it decided to, for its own reasons. Which has also happened many times.
midlander
May 20, 21 9:27 am
maybe you're just too fast in CAD - it gives you unrealistic expectations!
Almosthip
May 20, 21 3:42 pm
We do all our design work and con. docs in Revit. And since there are only two of us the building science department (we are an engineering firm, we dont provide arch service), Who ever designed it, is taking it through to opening day.
OMG when I work in Pencil I have to empty the sharpener 2/3 times a day.
midlander
May 19, 21 11:55 pm
I'd let you try my PEN by Pigma, but it has some disadvantages - doesn't work in the dark or when my hands are sweaty. And it costs at least 10 times more.
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 9:28 am
Actually Miles that raises an interesting qustion for me: I burn through pens fairly quickly when hand-sketching because I crush the tip. So that's, let's say, 1-3 new pens a week, so I'm tossing say three of these in the landfill every week:
That's say an ounce of plastic times three every week which is about 10 pounds of plastic every year. Is that more environmentally destructive than a Revit model?
I don't really count the paper in this scenario, because trees are a renewable resource. Plastic is the real enemy.
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 9:31 am
Of course, there's a lot of plastic in a computer, which gets landfilled every ten years or so. But there's also the toxic brew that no doubt makes up the ink in a Sharpie. The fumes alone are anthropocenic ;-).
Miles Jaffe
May 20, 21 9:47 am
I use a fountain pen and refill it from bottles of ink - no disposable cartridges. There is also a not insignificant amount of energy used by computers, much of it generated by fossil fuels and delivered at 60% loss over the antiquated power grid.
midlander
May 20, 21 9:49 am
if you think that's bad you should see how much waste is generated when they build the buildings! but the fumes on sharpies are unbearable. why would you prefer them to pigma pens or similar?
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 10:15 am
I don't know, I've never tried a Pigma.
Chad Miller
May 20, 21 11:54 am
midlander - what type of pigma pens do you use? Are they the Microns? If so I find that they don't flow very fast. Quick sketching seems to dry them out fast.
Pentel TRJ50 Tradio Stylo Pen, best pen for sketching/drawing I’ve ever had (and it has refills)...
Chad Miller
May 20, 21 6:57 pm
Rando - how quickly does the ink dry on trace?
midlander
May 20, 21 8:28 pm
Chad - yes actually i use a variety. pigma microns for more careful drawings after rougher fast studies. the fast ones i use pentel sign pens. to be honest i horde pens and don't worry too much what type. pigma graphic pens and pilot super color markers too.
randomised
May 21, 21 2:29 am
Chad, never have issues with drying speed, but am right handed so that helps, it is not waterproof however...
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 11:43 am
Current view.
Chad Miller
May 20, 21 11:47 am
What type of internet access do you have? Also what are the specs on your computer. Both of these can slow this process down.
If this is taking more and a few minutes then something isn't right. We run fiber and robust machines. Even when saving a 470 MB model with another 355 MB of linked models saving to the cloud only took about two minutes.
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 1:23 pm
I can’t answer those questions, Chad. As in, I don’t have any idea what the answers are.
joseffischer
May 20, 21 2:07 pm
I still think it's a problem when you combine *even with the best computers* "saving should only take 2 minutes" with "don't forget to save every 15 or so minutes"... so over 10% of my time is supposed to be running to the breakroom to get coffee? that's gonna be a lot of coffee
joseffischer
May 20, 21 2:20 pm
If you had to move a bay of 5 lavs to make room for a baby changing table, how long would it take? Then, when plumbing updated their model, how long do you think it should take them to replumb? Did you guess 6-8 hours because that's what I'm being told... better question, why are we modeling every fitting and the pipe slope... it's not a LOD 500 contract, there's nothing else in the wall to conflict...
Chad Miller
May 20, 21 2:40 pm
Joseff - You realize that in Revit there are two types of save. Save to Local and Save to Central? Local saves only take a few seconds. Save to Central takes your local model copy and saves to the model in the cloud / server. For really large models this can take a couple of minutes and is only done once every few hours typically.
As for your plumbing model question - why not ask MEP? I know that Revit requires a certain amount of modeling for the MEP in order to provide calculations. Pipe fittings and slope are part of that required modeling.
Donna Sink
May 20, 21 2:47 pm
What's the difference between save to local, save to central, and sync to central?
tduds
May 20, 21 5:21 pm
If you're still moving Lavs there's no reason to have pipes modeled.
Chad Miller
May 20, 21 6:16 pm
Donna –
First off there are two types of Revit files, Local and Central.
Central files must be created via work-sharing and are stored on an office server. Think of this as the final or main model.
When you open the central file, a Local File is created on your hard drive. This Local File is what is you're doing all your work in. Revit will create backup local files as often as you tell it to.
A Local Save will save to your hard drive. This typically takes less than 30 seconds.
A Save to Central will take your Local File and save anything you’ve changed in it to the Central Model. This typically takes 1-2 minutes depending on file size.
A Sync to Central is very much like Save to Central but instead of saving to a server it is saved to the Revit Cloud. This also saves a backup version of the file to a server of your choosing. Basically Revit saves to the cloud and creates a normal central file as a backup. This can take anywhere from 2-10 minutes depending on internet speed and project size.
Non Sequitur
May 20, 21 7:02 pm
^Chad, to add, sync to central will also update your local copy so that it matches the central model. Important when more than one person is messing around.
joseffischer
May 21, 21 8:52 am
rather than add more snark... I'll just ask Chad, do you not cause problems with the team by saving locally and waiting to sync until later? We're told to always sync... if we do wait to sync (say every 2 hours or so) it then takes 15 minutes to catch up and sometimes throws errors... I guess on the plus side the coffee breaks get condensed, maybe I can squeeze second breakfast in
Non Sequitur
May 21, 21 9:12 am
what about third breakfast?
square.
May 21, 21 9:28 am
revit stans represent!
Josh Mings
May 21, 21 9:29 am
Elevenses
Chad Miller
May 21, 21 10:38 am
Josef - Saving to Central is done often. Syncing to the cloud is done on regularly scheduled times - typically every 2 hours. At least that's how we've done it. Haven't had any issues. You may have your work-sharing configured differently than ours. Just like when working from a central model when a team member touches a part of the model in the cloud they 'own' it. For anyone else to modify that element they must get permission from the 'owner' and sync to the cloud model. This also happens if you go to modify an element that someone else has recently changed in their local model. Again, it sounds like your central / cloud models don't have their work sharing set up correctly.
I'm still not sure why it's taking so long for your files to sync to the cloud. I think you must have a model with a lot of errors in it and / or slow internet speeds.
Chad Miller
May 21, 21 10:46 am
I should add that this monitoring of the central and cloud model doesn't require you to save to central or sync to the cloud. Revit simply monitors all the local models and compares them back to the central / cloud model.
Donna Sink
May 21, 21 1:48 pm
if I swivel my chair away from my computer I see this:
So at least I can refocus my eyes while I wait for the regeneration to finish.
Wilma Buttfit
May 21, 21 8:56 pm
Swivel more often than not. You are worth it Donna.
Wood Guy
May 22, 21 8:42 am
You're looking at the view and not the jail bars, right? (Not that I can talk--my home office only has a tiny window, though a nice view.)
I'm not necessarily trying to directly say the issues Oliver is pointing out exist with the sponsored Archinect articles, but since I've complained about how I don't feel they should be included as "news" before, I figured I'd post it up and see how long before it gets taken down.
Miles Jaffe
May 24, 21 9:18 pm
Economics at work, because money is the only thing that matters. The end result is a media landscape that consists almost entirely of advertising in one form or another - from paid placement to brand integration to straight-up propaganda. In many ways traditional advertisements are the most honest part of media because you know they are trying to sell you something.
midlander
May 24, 21 9:52 pm
it was a bit of a historical aberration that ordinary people once thought there was fair unbiased news just kindly provided for public benefit. now you know!
randomised
May 25, 21 2:44 am
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Non Sequitur
May 25, 21 10:42 am
Most of my comments are sponsored by kicking horse coffee or some local craft brewery, depending on the time of day.
Chad Miller
May 25, 21 11:39 am
Your comments are sponsored by Snark Brewery. :P
Chad Miller
May 25, 21 10:26 am
Uhg.
We lost power twice over the weekend and once yesterday. This has caused us to have server and network issues.
Yesterday - no internet, e-mail, or phones .
Today - no server access.
Good thing I can sketch well.
proto
May 25, 21 11:55 am
we put a down payment on a generator in Feb...we were told 6mo wait for availability
go outside and give no f*cks for a few hours...forget the deadlines on a week day!
Chad Miller
May 25, 21 2:24 pm
Not allowed to. Have to stay in the office for a 1pm meeting. :(
bowling_ball
May 26, 21 1:39 am
Proto - can you expand? Natural gas tied to the grid? Diesel tank? Or something else? I'm curious about your setup if you can share any details
proto
May 26, 21 3:48 pm
We're getting natural gas piped from the street. Diesel offers a solution in the cascadia earthquake scenario, but 50hrs of run time is a little limiting ultimately. Our typical outage is because we are in a forest and our local power is all above ground (storms that down branches). We've been suffering multiple outages each year, some extending as much as 7 days. So, the office is useless during those times. I think the ultimate backup is PVs on the roof/batteries in garage, but this is more economical for the moment & less likely to be outdated in 5yrs.
Miles Jaffe
May 26, 21 3:56 pm
I have a manual pencil sharpener for when the electric one is offline.
archanonymous
May 26, 21 5:07 pm
@proto, if you install a PV system (even a small one) at the same time as a generator, and associated emergency circuit and transfer switch upgrades, battery backups, etc, you are eligible for federal grants for essentially everything except the generator itself. All those expensive inverters, emergency circuit, the pv's of course, transfer switches, new boxes, etc can be lumped in with cost of the solar system and then become eligible for the credits/ grants. Check it out.
proto
May 26, 21 6:09 pm
@ archanonymous, something to think about, thx, i'll look into it
proto
May 26, 21 6:13 pm
@miles, I keeping breaking lead on the monitor so a manual sharpener is just the thing! ;)
Donna Sink
May 26, 21 1:00 pm
Yes, I am a 54-year-old woman who just giggled outloud that I've been asked by a contractor to "please take a quick look at these erection drawings". Inside I'm still 12.
b3tadine[sutures]
May 26, 21 2:49 pm
Did you tell him he was short about four inches?
citizen
May 26, 21 2:58 pm
Hopefully they're printed, Donna. Office computers will block online NSFW materials. (So I've been told.)
archanonymous
May 26, 21 5:08 pm
"I'll do what I can but really think it would help if I observed the erection as it is happening."
Almosthip
May 27, 21 12:30 pm
Tell them to be careful if any shaving of nuts is required
proto
May 27, 21 1:47 pm
[NZaccent]"We'll put all hands on deck & hop on it right away!"[/NZaccent]
axonapoplectic
May 26, 21 4:54 pm
Been seeing more people come into the office. Mostly parents of school age kids. they look rather haggard - more so than the last time I saw them.
bowling_ball
May 26, 21 8:33 pm
Hi fellow archinectors! After reflecting on several conversations both here and in real life, I really don't like how I've been coming across lately - combative, impatient, and often insulting. I need to get my daily stress under control and forums like this have slowly become a place to let out my frustrations and that's just not fair to anybody. It just perpetuates the stress.
So I'm taking a break. Not sure for how long, but I'll be back.
I want to wish everyone the best and I'm sure we'll talk later this summer. Take care!
midlander
May 26, 21 8:46 pm
i hadn't noticed it - you're one of the consistently reasonable posters. but IRL always takes precedence. good luck and enjoy the summer!
Non Sequitur
May 26, 21 9:21 pm
Can't say I've noticed much hostility out of your posts but mental health, however one defines it, is important. Best of luck and there's a cold beer waiting for you if ever our provincial border walls go down and you happen to find yourself on my side. 8-)
citizen
May 26, 21 11:26 pm
Thanks for posting this, b_b, though I haven't witnessed any troublesome posts. I do appreciate your mention of real life, because I recognize my disposition has gotten more prickly and less patient in the last year or so. I need to relax and just let stuff go... so I'm glad you brought up the issue. Don't stay away too long.
Donna Sink
May 26, 21 11:36 pm
I’ll miss you bowling ball! But do take care of yourself.
Everyday Architect
May 27, 21 6:26 pm
Take care of yourself and we'll see you when you come back.
archiwutm8
May 27, 21 3:43 am
Completely stressed out, fucked up royally with some fabrication and was found out when team went to site to install said fabricated item.
Been feeling so low and lost if I want to continue this, workload been manic for the last few months for some unknown reason.
I see a few beers.
midlander
May 27, 21 7:21 am
wish you a healthy peace. work is too crazy for so many people recently.
Miles Jaffe
May 27, 21 10:35 am
It's not just work. Here in Paradise you can't get a sub if your life depended on it. doG help you if your toilet backs up. A caretaker friend told me that bids for cleaning a house ranged from $6,000 to $12,500. What is normally a 10 minute drive can take 45 minutes or more and people are driving like they're trying to qualify for Daytona. Basic behavior reflects these realties - in other words everyone is pissed off pretty much all the time. So much for Paradise.
Chad Miller
May 27, 21 12:42 pm
It happens to all of us achi. Think of it as a learning experience.
citizen
May 27, 21 1:57 pm
Thanks for posting, archi. We can all relate to this. It stings like a mother, no doubt. But it happens, time passes, and we move on. Don't flog yourself for more than a day or two; after that, try to let it go.
archanonymous
May 28, 21 9:19 am
It would be hard to catalog all the expensive mistakes I've made! Most didn't end up built or costing much because the project checks and balances worked correctly. It is never only your fault.
Donna Sink
May 27, 21 8:22 am
archiwutm8, please don’t be hard on yourself. We all screw the pooch on a project every now and then, and building things is just so freaking difficult it’s a wonder to me that almost anything ever gets built “right” the first time. As for the manic schedule, please do try to take some personal time! But don’t beat yourself up. Making things is hard.
citizen
May 27, 21 6:40 pm
Donna, that last sentence ties back nicely to your previous topic :o)
archiwutm8
Jun 1, 21 3:42 am
Thanks Donna, I was/am just really overloaded with work for some unknown reason even in a pandemic.
Bench
May 28, 21 7:53 am
Finally.
After weeks of waiting, yesterday I received my architect's license. I am extremely chuffed and humbled to finally be able to cap what was a long and complex path towards licensure.
And I'll give a shoutout to this forum. I remember signing up somewhere around the time that I was looking to transfer into an undergraduate architecture program, asking questions here. That would have been almost 12 years ago at this point - wow. Scrolling through the healthy debates/quesetions over the years exposed me to a lot of subjects I otherwise would not have heard about. Healthy doses of snark mixed in always kept it light and enjoyable. Dont change!
Cheers.
Non Sequitur
May 28, 21 8:08 am
Congrats on the license to snark.
randomised
May 28, 21 8:31 am
Congrats on getting licensed! Posting on the archinect forum should somehow count as hours needed for a license and should obviously be signed off by the big green head.
Non Sequitur
May 28, 21 8:58 am
^rando, I claim archinect time as part of my cont-ed hour requirements.
Chad Miller
May 28, 21 10:01 am
How the heck dose that work NS? It has to be some weird Canadian thing. :)
Donna Sink
May 28, 21 1:18 pm
CONGRATULATIONS BENCH!!!!!!! It's so awesome to cross that finish line!
RJ87
May 28, 21 1:59 pm
Congrats! Big weight off of your shoulders I'm sure. Comparatively speaking, there aren't many architects out there.
Miles Jaffe
May 28, 21 2:00 pm
Finish line? I thought that was the starting line.
citizen
May 28, 21 2:36 pm
Kudos, Bench! You're now an architect.
Now could you take a look at my house and tell me how to add on, remodel, and identify its architectural style? I can't pay more than $63, but this would be a good chance for you to get some experience.
Bench
May 28, 21 3:31 pm
Thanks all. Donna no idea if you’re still working with our firm at all, hoping we can still get that bourbon down the line.
Bench
May 28, 21 3:33 pm
Citizen - very happy to report that I work for a large specialist firm that has exactly zero market share for any type of housing/residential projects. So when the inevitable question comes up I can politely defer to the “aww shucks don’t know anything about it” answer.
proto
May 28, 21 3:52 pm
Welcome to liability world!
citizen
May 28, 21 5:15 pm
Bench's achievement got me thinking. We really should have an official Archinect Forum welcome/ induction/ hazing ceremony for new architects. Nothing deadly, just something fun, affectionate, and mildly humiliating.
Brainstorming here... maybe travel around the continent, and wash the cars of members who've been here for 15 years or so? Other ideas?
Everyday Architect
May 28, 21 6:16 pm
Instead of "thumbs upping" their achievement we "thumbs down" it? [shrugs]
citizen
May 29, 21 12:46 am
^ Ironic response, EA. Or is it?
Everyday Architect
Jun 1, 21 12:03 pm
Meant to be ironic. Reality is that it would just look like protectionism and gate keeping ... "Boo! One more potential competitor! Boo!"
I'm all for something fun as a welcome gift of sorts. All my brainstorming is turning up some duds though. Red ink pad for the stamp labelled "Blood of Archinect's Trolls," ... stuff like that. Do trolls even have red blood?
citizen
Jun 1, 21 12:26 pm
I know, I was kidding ;o] You've proven yourself a witty compatriot. ("Boo!" made me laugh.)
I like the blood-of-trolls idea... maybe a festoon of their entrails to adorn the new architect's computer monitor? You know, something festive for the celebrant while suitably grim for the irritant. Bonus: if the inductee scored high enough on their exams, s/he gets to choose the 'donor'.
His "white papers" on envelope design seems to be legit changing the game.
Chad Miller
Jun 1, 21 10:02 am
Yup.
Chad Miller
Jun 1, 21 10:18 am
To be fair - this isn't new information. It's also important to note that any damage to the foil face (aka fasteners) of the polyiso will increase its water absorption. In typical assemblies where fasteners pernitrate the facing of the polyiso it's water absorption is increased 0.5 - 3x and it's drying time is increased 3x - 6x
b3tadine[sutures]
Jun 1, 21 10:30 am
I had been sold on the idea that mineral wool was the way to go, but his analysis has me rethinking that idea. TBH, it seems there's no "real" all encompassing solution, only pathways to mitigating damage. Especially if you are going to use attachment systems.
Chad Miller
Jun 1, 21 11:50 am
Very true. I for one have never used mineral wool except for interior fire blocking. Using any type of blanket insulation outside of the water / weather barrier seems foolish.
On a related note we don't use polyiso for below grade insulation. Instead we use EPS. It remains 94% of it's r value when wet (R3 inch), dries out fast, and has a water absorption of 2%. Polyiso retains 54% of its r value when wet (R-2.5 in), takes longer to dry out, and if the facing is compromised has a water absorption of 5%.
foster fits an apple store inside a 17th century palazzo, thank god for italian conservation rules.
b3tadine[sutures]
Jun 3, 21 7:51 am
This is how I think about this, and the argument that takes down "revivalists";
b3tadine[sutures]
Jun 3, 21 7:51 am
This is how I think about this, and the argument that takes down "revivalists";
b3tadine[sutures]
Jun 1, 21 7:18 pm
I walked into a school, doing some site verification, and the math teacher asked me if I wanted to teach some math. I said no, I was horrible at math, he said c'mon. I explained that it's a common misconception that architects are good at math. He chuckled. I told him that it's common for architects to tell the layperson, the only numbers we needed to know, were the ones to our structural engineers.
He did not chuckle.
Another bullshit artist taken down.
archanonymous
Jun 2, 21 10:52 am
I don't follow - who is the BS artist in this story? You?
b3tadine[sutures]
Jun 2, 21 7:46 pm
Let's do the math. I suck at math + architects are bad at maths^2 = not structural engineers = call engineers
Everyday Architect
Jun 1, 21 10:54 pm
Bye Katerra.
Feeling sad for all the employees. I was tempted to apply for a job with them a couple years ago. Had a friend that was thinking of going over there too. Luckily we looked into the company a little more and realized we didn’t want anything to do with it.
midlander
Jun 2, 21 1:25 am
it's one of those things like self-driving cars that i look at and think "this isn't going to work" and then it doesn't. i only wish there was a good way to get rich being right as a skeptic.
Chad Miller
Jun 2, 21 10:09 am
I'm so out of the loop. Never heard of them until now. They didn't last very long, bummer. :s
JLC-1
Jun 2, 21 10:51 am
what is off-site construction management? doesn't make any sense
joseffischer
Jun 2, 21 11:37 am
they ate Lord Aeck and Sargent in ATL and there was some office gossip on what will happen and how the old LAS partners may spin off and get rehired on some of their jobs...nothing note-worthy, but always interesting overhearing firm owners talk about owner things
tduds
Jun 2, 21 3:00 pm
I was also tempted to hop on the Katerra bandwagon, since I strongly support the concept & the tech they were pushing. But right around the time they were rapidly expanding, I'd recently been through a startup boom and collapse & the whole thing felt a little too familiar for comfort. I decided to look for a more stable place to spend a chunk of time. Feeling justified in my choice, since I'm still with the stable firm.
tduds
Jun 2, 21 3:02 pm
i only wish there was a good way to get rich being right as a skeptic.
It's really sad that Katerra fell apart. The idea behind it was great, but they pretty much did it the wrong way from step 1 and collapsed. It really was only a matter of time.
Wood Guy
Jun 2, 21 3:58 pm
Last line of my text response to a client today: "All of my other clients seem happy to pay on time, without complaint." I could tell some stories but I'm sure you know the type.
Chad Miller
Jun 2, 21 4:23 pm
That's frustrating. My current issue a client who's not signing contracts yet wants me to work on said projects.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 2, 21 4:35 pm
Ask him if he doesn’t pay after eating at a restaurant. Or if he tries to negotiate the menu prices when the check comes.
joseffischer
Jun 2, 21 5:27 pm
Some do...
Chad Miller
Jun 2, 21 5:29 pm
Yeah and they're call d-bags.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 2, 21 6:13 pm
The more they have the tighter they hold on to it.
Wood Guy
Jun 3, 21 5:53 pm
This client is an interesting guy. He built a telecom company of some sort and sold it, then got into commercial real estate development. I broke my rule of not working for real estate agents or developers (because my experiences lead me to believe they're not fully human) to take on his project. I've worked for plenty of wealthy people but none that bragged so much about what they have and none who complained so often about paying me for the work I've done. I'm in a good position--I don't need his job at all, it's complicated enough that it would not be wise to proceed without me, and he knows it. But I still don't need to hear that I take too long to deposit his checks (typically a few days, possibly up to two weeks.)
Chad Miller
Jun 4, 21 10:54 am
So this client isn't paying you on time then complains that you don't deposit their payments fast enough? RED FLAG!
Wood Guy
Jun 4, 21 5:36 pm
He's been a client for 2 1/2 years now. I did get red flags before we signed a contract, but I checked with a couple of contractors who I know had done some work for him and they said he was a blowhard but paid. And he has paid all of my invoices, he just complains about it. I would not take the job today, but at the time it was going to be my biggest, best project. With every project I learn again how important it is to find good clients!
Donna Sink
Jun 2, 21 8:02 pm
Here is my current frustration at work. It’s funny, but also frustrating. For the last two days we haven’t had working toilets at the office. Some kind of sewer collapse happened over the holiday weekend. So despite having a zillion RFI’s to answer and submittals to review, I’ve been breaking my day into three-four hour chunks between which I run home to use the toilet (it’s a 10 minute drive). The partners made arrangements for us to use the toilet of the brewpub next-door, but I just can’t bring myself to do that.
Josh Mings
Jun 2, 21 8:16 pm
Why not just let you all work from home until it is fixed? We have the technology...like they say.
citizen
Jun 2, 21 8:21 pm
That's a bladder of iron you have there, Donna.
As one who, on occasion, is not above using the great outdoors as a loo, the pub toilet sounds luxurious in that scenario... especially next to multiple drives home.
Donna Sink
Jun 2, 21 9:33 pm
Josh, we *are* actually allowed to work from home. But the Revit and submittal review work I’m doing this week are just so much easier on my two big screens at the office than at home. Very few of my coworkers are at the office.
Non Sequitur
Jun 2, 21 10:02 pm
"Very few of my coworkers are at the office"
That potted fern is looking mighty convenient. There's your solution.
Donna Sink
Jun 3, 21 7:25 am
Also when I head home briefly I get to see the dog, and she likes it, so win-win (I take her out to pee, too).
Bench
Jun 3, 21 7:36 am
Uh oh Donna ... sounds like SNL already has you covered !
Chad Miller
Jun 3, 21 10:17 am
Bring the doggo to work! Then everything is good! :)
Josh Mings
Jun 3, 21 12:36 pm
Pretty sure it would be frowned upon for Donna to poop in a yard.
proto
Jun 3, 21 4:49 pm
I first read it as "(3) four-hour chunks"...and I was thinking, "isn't 8 hrs enough, donna?"
citizen
Jun 7, 21 12:05 am
I'd stay away from good ol' "potted" Fern. She's got her own problems.
Donna Sink
Jun 7, 21 8:12 am
Monday morning update: we have working toilets.
Josh Mings
Jun 7, 21 4:46 pm
Bad news: sinks are out.
Wood Guy
Jun 7, 21 5:18 pm
On many a jobsite we'd wash our hands in the toilet tank. (Not the bowl.) Just an idea.
Everyday Architect
Jun 8, 21 2:36 pm
Never used that myself (I was never lucky enough to work at a job site with running water), but I like the idea. Flush with gray water.
Non Sequitur
Jun 8, 21 2:52 pm
Any of ya'll have GC put down portable urinals on construction sites? On my last multi-story, they had these banks of 4ish feet tall plastic triangles every 2 or 3 floors. Kept the workers from using the... drains.
No different from the Waltons, the Sacklers, Bezos, Nike, Apple, etc. This is the foundation of 'great' wealth, and we all serve them in one way or another.
JLC-1
Jun 7, 21 11:58 am
That's the sad part, but it's funny they try to appease history with a museum exhibition.
randomised
Jun 7, 21 5:54 pm
Maybe tell that to the curator and now head of History at the Rijksmuseum Valika Smeulders (the one with Rembrandt's Night Watch)...she herself was born in a former colony (Curacao) and descends from former slaves and slaveowners...this show has nothing to do with appeasing history, it is about confronting it.
tduds
Jun 7, 21 6:00 pm
I don't see the problem here.
It's not like this is the only thing happening and someone is going to be like "Welp, we're good now!" after a museum exhibit. It's part of the conversation.
midlander
Jun 7, 21 10:53 pm
i think the purpose is helping everyone recognize that history is complex and amoral. viewed over a long enough period there is no clear division of good guys vs bad guys - it's all just a hopeless mess of compromise, groupthink, and well-meaning hypocrisy, with occasionally genuinely evil individuals in charge. it would be useful in contemporary politics where there is an unrealistic push to sort everything into good versus evil and simply isolate the badness away.
midlander
Jun 7, 21 10:56 pm
such awareness evades those like chemex who imagine there is some ideal standard a country must meet for its people to deserve recognition as individuals.
JLC-1
Jun 8, 21 10:36 am
I'm not trying to mock the effort and the exhibition is great to raise awareness, but as a state or states - not only Netherlands - a sanitized view of the past has the same effect as thoughts and prayers, especially when such colonialism hasn't ceased, it's just legal and civilized now.
randomised
Jun 8, 21 8:27 pm
Okay they’re not lynching or raping anyone as part of the exhibition, I’ll give you that...
Chad Miller
Jun 7, 21 2:42 pm
We have GC interviews in our office today. The clients are here for said interviews so we ordered food from a local restaurant.
Delivery driver comes in and lets us know that she can't deliver the food because the restaurant is currently ON FIRE.
Mondays . . .
JLC-1
Jun 7, 21 2:44 pm
did you order from shooters in rifle?
proto
Jun 7, 21 2:46 pm
I guess it isn't bbq? or maybe it is?
Chad Miller
Jun 7, 21 2:48 pm
JLC -1 - ha! I wish. Nope a local place in Junction. Bummer.
Wilma Buttfit
Jun 8, 21 12:48 am
I think our next Colorado archinect meetup is at Shooters.
Chad Miller
Jun 8, 21 4:26 pm
We'll all get food poisoning then . . . :)
Wilma Buttfit
Jun 9, 21 10:15 am
We won't be there to eat then, just to discuss politics.
Chad Miller
Jun 9, 21 12:19 pm
Oh you don't want to do that there.
I was there with my wife and heard a young child ask his father why all the waitress where carrying guns. The father said that only a good guy with a gun can protect us from a bad guy with a gun. I couldn't help myself and told my wife that it would be difficult for the waitress to do so since none of their pistols where loaded. Rather easy to see with modern semi autos.
The man overheard me, got mad, and challenged me to a fight. When I told him no and to please sit down he then pulled out a handgun and placed it on the table while glaring at me. I just ignored him. Cops came and said I should just leave as soon as we were done eating.
Classy place with ::meh:: food.
Wilma Buttfit
Jun 9, 21 1:27 pm
Exactly.
citizen
Jun 8, 21 2:22 pm
Just got off the phone with my 89yo dad, who finished the call with "Okay, honey, we'll see you...." That was nice.
tduds
Jun 8, 21 2:37 pm
Another one of those days where I get nothing done because I spend all of my energy jumping in and out of meetings where I have to tell groups of people about all the things I'd be doing were it not for the meeting.
Non Sequitur
Jun 8, 21 2:50 pm
My last few weeks have felt this way. I'm training a new hire to eventually replace an arch-intern going on mat leave soon and I'm spending more than half my day either on the phone or answering emails related to these phone calls. I booked some vacation time for august (like half the month) and realised it's much sooner than I expected. Will probably take half of november off too if this pace continues.
Everyday Architect
Jun 8, 21 3:43 pm
Been feeling like every change that I need to make is requiring half a dozen people to weigh in before no one makes a final decision ... and the cycle continues.
Last week I tried to corner a guy at the end of a zoom call to just work with me to make three decisions that he needs to make. We made one of three and he was going to follow up with me yesterday on the other two. He never followed up. Oh, and the one decision "we" made ... I told him what I think he needs and he simply agreed (I had already done this via three emails, but I was able to nail it down over zoom).
tduds
Jun 8, 21 5:03 pm
I think there are some people who measure their value by how many meetings they can call.
Everyday Architect
Jun 9, 21 12:43 pm
Makers vs managers
tduds
Jun 9, 21 12:56 pm
Ever since I discovered that essay I think about it at least once a day. I should send it to my project teams.
archanonymous
Jun 8, 21 5:13 pm
I generally like the threads that Piero1910 starts. They don't generate intense discussion but the questions are obviously well considered for someone I assume is a student.
randomised
Jun 8, 21 6:42 pm
He’s crowdsourcing a publication or phd and doing it rather well...
Donna Sink
Jun 9, 21 1:28 pm
I have to selfishly brag on my kid. 15 years ago I put this picture here on TC (page 2):
Here is my kid today. He just graduated high school, will be going to Columbia College Chicago to major in Acting with a minor in Stage Combat. And he is the funniest, kindest,most creative person I know.
I've spent a looooooot of time on TC in the last 15 years!
Miles Jaffe
Jun 9, 21 1:29 pm
Nice work, Donna. Especially keeping him out of architecture. Although stage combat could come in handy dealing with clients, contractors, and officials.
citizen
Jun 9, 21 1:58 pm
Congratulations, Donna! And I agree with Miles... just think of the all creative uses for that hatchet.
Donna Sink
Jun 9, 21 5:02 pm
He’s a second degree black belt, so he can do both faux combat AND real combat!
Non Sequitur
Jun 9, 21 5:05 pm
you call that an axe?
Chad Miller
Jun 9, 21 5:32 pm
Where I'm from (MN - aka southern Canada) - that's what is used to shave.
tduds
Jun 9, 21 5:48 pm
I call that a hatchet.
tduds
Jun 9, 21 5:49 pm
Congrats, Donna. Sounds like you've done a fine job!
Miles Jaffe
Jun 9, 21 5:52 pm
That's a hand axe.
Everyday Architect
Jun 9, 21 6:40 pm
Donna, if I recall correctly, didn't he have a short run of some comics he was drawing and putting up on the web? Congrats on this milestone!
Donna Sink
Jun 9, 21 8:04 pm
Yes, Everyday, he had a short-lived Tumblr of his piranha comics! I’m humbled and delighted that you remember.
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 3:13 pm
I wasn't paying attention to this thread yesterday because of the terrible title and first post(s), but I have to give credit where it is due ... the resulting discussion, once I dug into it, has been great.
Good perspectives and opinions to challenge ideas, fairly civil discourse (Miles' curmudgeonry* notwithstanding), and not being derailed by trolls (yet). I need much more of this on the forum.
*I don't say this critically or as a complaint, but I don't expect anything different. Miles does just enough curmudgeon talk to remind us all he's there and part of the conversation, and then usually someone else (mightyaa in this case) seems to be able to come in and tease out the good bits. I mean this with all the love and respect in the world, but it's like having grandpa at the table for thanksgiving. It may be slightly annoying at the time, but I'd rather have him there because we do miss him when he's not. Glad you're here Miles.
citizen
Jun 10, 21 3:24 pm
I'll give this a like solely for my new favorite word: curmudgeonry.
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 3:42 pm
Glad I could make up a word for you to add to your lexicon.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 10, 21 4:20 pm
Enough of this dang tomfoolery. Somebody has to kick young whippersnappers like Everyday Intern into shape. Time's a wastin' ... where's my cane?
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 5:13 pm
Where is Everyday Intern? Haven't seen that guy around for the past 4 years. Get with the times old man.
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 4:11 pm
I'm currently on the home stretch of the ARE gauntlet with my final exam scheduled for the end of the month. Lots of changes have come down from NCARB during this time, usually preceded by a survey consisting of a few loaded questions. Today's was about "What language I, as a ARE candidate in the United States of America, prefer when reading architecture related content?" This, in relation to how English as a second language effects performance on the ARE... Of course it effects performance, but how would changing the language in which the ARE is given help one in the day-to-day professional setting?
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 4:16 pm
Is the intent of the ARE to determine how well one functions in a day-to-day professional setting, or determine minimum competency in the subject matter?
I didn't open the survey, but kudos to NCARB for looking into this. Let them test candidates in the language the candidate can best show their competency. Let the employer with their employees, and/or the client with their architect figure out what language they best communicate in.
The US of A doesn't have an official language.
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 5:14 pm
However, the de facto language of commerce in this country is English... Architecture is an applied profession, and being able to communicate clearly can be the difference between a successful project and losing a reference for future projects, not to mention more dire consequences I'd question the usefulness of the ARE if they don't believe there's a connection between testing your knowledge within the bounds of the exam, and applying it in the profession. It's not about accessibility or politics here, I wouldn't expect if I were to move to my SO's home country to be so accommodated, even if I were to become fluent in their language, it's so full of specialized language that even native speakers can have difficulty following a conversation if it's not within their own vocation/region. Needless to say I'd probably find something else to do there. This kind of accessibility is not helping the profession if we want to maintain some kind of credibility.
Chad Miller
Jun 10, 21 5:31 pm
There is no de facto language in the US be it for commerce or anything else. The de facto currency for commerce in the global economy is American dollars though. The use of one does not equate the use of the other.
Using the English language dose not provide credibility in this field. Being a good architect dose and that can be done in many languages.
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 5:58 pm
Unless the definition of de facto has recently changed, you might want to check back on your first conclusion.
On your second point, it's the credibility of the ARE itself that I'm questioning not so much the architects that have passes that gate.
tduds
Jun 10, 21 7:03 pm
The de facto language of construction sites is Espanol. Good luck doing CA on small residential projects with only one language at your disposal.
Chad Miller
Jun 10, 21 7:04 pm
de facto - in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
Chad Miller
Jun 10, 21 7:12 pm
So Wiggins - you're saying that unless an architect took their licensing exam in English they are not credible enough to practice in America?
OR
Are you saying that if the ARE is given in languages other than English in the United State that the license isn't credible? Even if the exact same information is tested?
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 8:41 pm
I'm questioning the credibility of the ARE as a qualification standard to practice architecture in the United States if they were to make this kind of concession. I'm looking at this as if the ARE is analogous to the Bar Exam in any given state, regardless of your personal opinion, practicing law and practicing architecture (as a licensed architect) are on similar levels. I've looked, and as far as I've found there are no states that let a candidate take the Bar exam in any language other than English. And for those confused, I'm talking about the practice of architecture as a licensed architect, not the applied process of construction by a tradesman.
RJ87
Jun 11, 21 11:16 am
English is the primary language for global commerce, thanks to the fact that the British Empire once controlled 25% of the worlds land & the US followed as the largest economy for the last 80 years. I also think its advisable purely from a practical standpoint to learn English if you live in the US.
But I don't think that matters for the ARE. If they sit there & translate every question into Spanish what difference does it make. The point of the exam is to find out if you know the material, not if you can read a question in English. As long as it's the same material you could give the exam in brail for all I'm concerned.
My wife is a nurse & ends up using quite a bit of Spanish (she's not fluent but does the best she can). We always talk about how it's more difficult than trying to do basic things, because she doesn't have any clue what the Spanish word for long medical terminology is.
Everyday Architect
Jun 11, 21 2:07 pm
"And for those confused, I'm talking about the practice of architecture as a licensed architect ..."
This is where you're just starting off on the wrong thought process. For the third(?) time now I'm saying that the point of the ARE is not to test any candidates ability to *practice architecture.* It is there to simply test *knowledge in a subject matter.* You can know everything there is to know about architecture and still fail to be someone that can actually practice architecture successfully (I think I had a couple of professors in college that fit this description). Testing someone's knowledge in their native language is going to be the best way to *test* *that* *person's* *knowledge.* Passing the test still doesn't mean they will be able to *practice architecture.*
Spend any time around other people taking the ARE and you'll find that many of the more experienced ARE candidates complain that they do poorly on the tests because the answers don't properly reflect what their experience in practice would indicate as the right answer. That's because the test is not supposed to be a reflection of what you would necessarily do in practice. It's meant to test your knowledge of the source material. Many times this is different than in practice.
Perfect example: People struggle all the time with the question of if drawings or specifications take precedent over the other. The correct answer based on AIA A201 is that neither takes precedence. However in practice I see this get messed up all the time where one is given precedence and written into contracts all the time. Does that make it wrong? Not necessarily. Not if that's how the contract is written. The contract determines what is right based on mutual agreement of the signing parties *in practice.* But for the ARE the standard AIA documents are the *source material* so you need to know what they say ... not what you did on your last 20 projects.
With sufficient study, I'm sure plenty of people could pass the ARE without working a day in an architectural office. You keep getting hung up on this idea that the practice of architecture happens in English and so the testing must be done in English. You might be right about the first clause, that practice happens in English (you're not, and my comment below points that out), but that doesn't mean that the testing has to happen in English. Again, the best way to test someone's knowledge of the subject matter is to test them in their native language.
Everyday Architect
Jun 11, 21 2:10 pm
At any rate, I ignored the NCARB survey yesterday when I saw it come through my inbox. I'm going to go dig it up and take it because apparently I can't rely on people being empathetic to ELLs instead of jerks.
Everyday Architect
Jun 11, 21 2:24 pm
Ok, the survey wasn't really trying to get feedback on whether or not anything should be changed, it was simply asking your proficiency in English and then the preferred language you'd want to be tested in. But true to NCARB fashion, the survey appears to only be available in English. Si no entiendes ingles, y no entiendes la pregunta ... ¿Cómo podrías saber contestarla?
archanonymous
Jun 14, 21 12:48 pm
Chinga tu madre, NCARB.
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 6:10 pm
Nope, not buying it. You can find plenty of places in this country where people conduct commerce in a language other than English. Places where the predominant spoken and written language is Spanish, Korean, Mandarin, Cantonese, Russian, Hebrew, etc. There are even entire neighborhoods of cities with different languages on the storefronts and even the publicly provided street signs.
I've worked at a firm with an international presence where if you wanted to work on the high profile projects going on in China, you'd better know the language. While we had offices over there, a lot of the initial design work was done here in the states and the local office was only there to deal with developing the design and working with the LDI. That firm often hired designers in part because they weren't native English speakers but were in a language where we had projects or pursuits.
I've met people that work in Florida and often get projects on Caribbean islands where English is barely spoken. You think the contractor will read your specs if they're written in English?
For crying out loud, one of the 55 jurisdictions NCARB covers is Puerto Rico where Spanish is the official language. It also covers Guam (English and Chomorro), and Northern Mariana Islands (English, Chomorro, Carolinian).
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 6:19 pm
Those are outlier situations and in no way representative of what the majority of ESL people working in the USA will experience. Back to credibility as a profession, how many states give the taker multiple language options for their Bar Exam?
If NCARB has jurisdiction over areas that English isn't the de facto/official language, then they should present the exam in those languages if a person is pursuing their license there, you chose that when you open you record with NCARB.
Everyday Architect
Jun 10, 21 6:58 pm
Again, you're assuming the examination is meant to deal with functioning in a practice setting, and not establishing minimal competence in a subject matter. NCARB already has a program to ensure candidates have functional experience called AXP. If you really are concerned that ELLs (English Language Learners ... English might be their 3rd, 4th, nth language, not just their second), won't be able to functionally practice as architects in the US, that will probably be figured out during AXP. Maybe focus your gatekeeping efforts there if you're so concerned.
JLC-1
Jun 15, 21 7:02 pm
I hadn't seen this; I did arch. school in a spanish speaking country, after 10 years of practice I moved to the US, where I worked as "urban designer" and didn't need a license, I tried starting with Ncarb 6 years after and they said I couldn't try at all because my school would not send the transcripts already translated. Door closed very quickly on that, I'm stuck being an employee. I now have 18 years of experience in the US but can't sit the exams.
Mr_Wiggin
Jun 10, 21 8:50 pm
I'm looking at this as if the AXP and the ARE work in concert to weed out those who are, and aren't suited to hold an architecture license in the US. This isn't to say that those that initially don't have the fluency level in English to pass the ARE don't, but just like the Bar exam, they should be expected to study English to achieve it. Architecture isn't, and has never been something for everyone, and trying to make it so only diminishes the value of architecture as a profession. As I previously stated, I wouldn't expect a similar concession if I moved to my SO's country and wanted to be a licensed architect there, and I know they wouldn't give it.
Chad Miller
Jun 10, 21 9:04 pm
No.
The ARE isn't a test that is applicable to only the US. You are able to apply for and get architectural licensure in other countries with it as well. There may an additional exam or two to take in these countries. For these exams the units are in metric but the tests can be in English if requested.
The country of your SO you keep referring to is an outlier and in no way representative of what most countries practice.
Non Sequitur
Jun 11, 21 8:49 am
got the 5G monitoring nanobot vaccine 5mins ago. I can’t wait to use all my new super powers.
Chad Miller
Jun 11, 21 10:04 am
I heard it causes male enhancement.
randomised
Jun 11, 21 10:52 am
Only for women though...men get female enhancement
Chad Miller
Jun 11, 21 11:11 am
Shhhh . . . don't tell Non that!
Miles Jaffe
Jun 11, 21 11:21 am
There ... I have Non on my tracking screen now. He's - OH! You don't want to know.
citizen
Jun 11, 21 2:45 pm
Faster than a speeding bullet train, more powerful than a monarchy, able to leap tall pines in a single bound...
citizen
Jun 14, 21 1:08 pm
Let's try again, minus the broken link.
Non Sequitur
Jun 14, 21 1:22 pm
Nice. Better be available in both languages or else you might get some poutine thrown your way. These are awesome!
Silly m'ericans... don't they know canadians don't believe in guns.
citizen
Jun 14, 21 1:24 pm
Of course! Just remind me... what's the other language? ;o]
Non Sequitur
Jun 14, 21 1:27 pm
Not sure citizen, but perhaps we can ask this guy:
citizen
Jun 14, 21 2:12 pm
That's got to be the butchest wearing of the fleur-de-lis I've ever seen.
Not sure if I'm just getting old and can't concentrate anymore or Design of everyday things is just a really boring book? There's a fair amount of waffling going on.
midlander
Jun 14, 21 4:48 am
i find written books on design and architecture (not photo-books) to be hopelessly boring. i stick to fiction and history.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 14, 21 8:43 am
The classics are often good, especially historic / archeological and treasures like Downing's 1850 The Architecture of Country Houses - which certainly wasn't a parody but can easily be viewed as one.
Miles Jaffe
Jun 14, 21 8:43 am
Books by architects today are uniformly awful PR campaigns.
square.
Jun 14, 21 9:13 am
i stopped reading books that were exclusively about architecture years ago- many others writers from other disciplines have much more interesting things to say, often indirectly, about architecture and design.
Non Sequitur
Jun 14, 21 9:42 am
I stopped reading arch books at the same time as I finished grad school. Don’t think I’m missing much
randomised
Jun 16, 21 8:31 am
Maybe it’s the book...could give The Language of Things by Deyan Sudjic a try, I even finished this one.
JLC-1
Jun 14, 21 11:30 am
this reminded me of some of the threads here
Chad Miller
Jun 14, 21 12:28 pm
Throw in a weird, slightly racist comment from x-jla and that's pretty much this entire form.
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 12:33 pm
Dilbert is appropriate on multiple levels in that case.
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 12:34 pm
Oh, hey. Been a bit. Did I miss anything neat?
citizen
Jun 14, 21 1:06 pm
Pete! Nah, only an uprising or two, and just the right amount of devastating but understated wit.
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 1:40 pm
Nice! I managed to avoid logging on for the duration that I was out (made a little Pete)
Non Sequitur
Jun 14, 21 1:43 pm
Oooooh, a mini-you? congrats.
JLC-1
Jun 14, 21 1:51 pm
you were "making" it all this time? or just receiving it? congrats anyway!
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 2:00 pm
Substantial completion was delayed a bit. Seems the contractor wanted perfection, which is OK by me. The CDs were dodgy to begin with.
proto
Jun 14, 21 2:22 pm
Congrats Sneaky!
...BTW, how did you get your name?
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 2:25 pm
Made it up out of the blue one day when I wanted to join 'nect.
citizen
Jun 14, 21 2:34 pm
Congratulations, Pete! Glad to see you have lots of free time now =O]
proto
Jun 14, 21 3:16 pm
hmmm, SneakyPete...not what contractor says... ;)
Donna Sink
Jun 14, 21 3:38 pm
Congratulations Pete!! It's the best thing ever.
Everyday Architect
Jun 14, 21 3:40 pm
Congrats on the mini-Pete!
SneakyPete
Jun 14, 21 3:42 pm
Thanks! Babies are the best things ever.
Everyday Architect
Jun 14, 21 3:44 pm
Re: your name ... you should have trademarked or copyrighted it when you had the chance. Bryan Cranston stole it for a TV series for Amazon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneaky_Pete
Miles Jaffe
Jun 14, 21 3:59 pm
Nice work if you can get it.
archanonymous
Jun 14, 21 4:19 pm
Congrats Pete!
randomised
Jun 14, 21 4:26 pm
Congrats! the unveiling of the project when the scaffolding comes down is otherworldly
JLC-1
Jun 15, 21 5:21 pm
I just realized my desk fan looks like Sir Norman designed
it.
citizen
Jun 15, 21 5:31 pm
Or Frederick's of Hollywood (image NSFW].
Everyday Architect
Jun 15, 21 5:50 pm
The arm on your lamp isn't plumb.
Non Sequitur
Jun 15, 21 7:16 pm
I have the same magnetic level... but in red. I also used to keep it on my task lamp back when in school.
archiwutm8
Jun 16, 21 7:36 am
Sketchy
p in the wild, a rare breed in these parts.
JLC-1
Jun 16, 21 9:47 am
Non, I think this one came in an IKEA tool set.
Non Sequitur
Jun 16, 21 3:16 pm
JLC... that makes sense.
axonapoplectic
Jun 16, 21 3:04 pm
PM: “so - who wants to tackle BOMA?”
:crickets:
PM: “anyone?”
PA: “I volunteer the person who will be joining the team tomorrow.”
SneakyPete
Jun 16, 21 8:00 pm
BOMA is annoying, but it's basically busy work for a few hours / days.
archanonymous
Jun 17, 21 12:57 pm
It's just busy work til you fuck something up and the client's lender is looking for the missing 823 sf in the project that never "existed" in the first place.
SneakyPete
Jun 17, 21 1:13 pm
Good point.
archanonymous
Jun 18, 21 10:00 am
One of the reasons I never understood assigning these kinds of tasks to the kids, unless the oversight/ education is actually good, which usually takes more time than getting an experienced person to do it.
BOMA? Good way to piss off the client and if you make a really bad boo-boo, get the project cancelled.
Bathroom and core layouts? The most likely spot to get dinged in an inspection or plan review, especially on accessibility.
Door Schedule? The source of many a pricey change order.
SneakyPete
Jun 18, 21 12:53 pm
God, door schedules. Especially Revit door schedules.
joseffischer
Jun 22, 21 10:52 am
I always do BOMA for my projects (PM here)... so does another PM I know... everyone else at all levels some how find one of us when it's their turn. "well, I don't want to make a mistake and it's a quick turn around." uhuh...
I am starting a new thread that is about other threads. You can talk about other discussions taking a place in Archinect and make cross references to a particular link, picture, response and whatever else you deem necessary or entertaining or thought provoking about the other thread. thus the name: Thread Central
here are some examples of comments that comes to mind:
* hey did you read on --------- thread ------- thinks frank gehry is good. hahahaharhar..
or,
*i can't believe he said that. how stupid of him. asshole.on top of it he is got hundreds of posts. gimme a break.
or,
* this is the best thread.. fuck the others..
or,
*****Thread Alert******
read the -----thread yet??? there is a dog fight going on between ----- and-----.it is about gondolas and pollution in Venice..see you there.
or,
* yeaah, i don't read that thread either. its kind a boring.
or,
*i am thinking about starting a discussion about ------------- ---- ---- will you guys in Thread Central post in it and say wow it a great thread?. it was about time 'somebody' (insert my name please) picked up on it.. and discuss it?
like whatever..
Has this happened to you? Coming in late in CDs on a large project with a bunch to do. Really low-level busy work like "create the restroom sheets" a task that at my level doesn't really need explanation... sure I can help out.
Caveat, the contractor is tracking changes, so don't move things around on the sheets for the sake of clarity or to fit more views. Leave grid lines where they are even if they're overlapping the titleblock. Leave inconsistent sheet numbering as it is, or else the contractor software won't notice the changes. Make new sheets for any new views even if it could fit on an old sheet without having to move old views.
I mean I get it, but that's the contractor being extra lazy and I want to sneak in a caveat somewhere being like "sheet A5.00-5.02 those were before my time and I wasn't allowed to touch them, sorry for the mess"
Sounds like the contractor needs to read the contract? Track changes all you like, but those gridlines need fixing. I wager if your team submitted a better set with a list of housekeeping changes along side so they could simply ignore most of the (bluebeam) differences they find, they might even thank you.
That's my nightmare.
Frankly if the drawing set is still that disorganized & incomplete it should not be shown outside the office. I try to emphasize a clean break between DD /Pricing / Bid / Permit / IFC. Once the name is changed all revisions reset to zero and you* better act like the previous sets didn't even exist. Read the drawings, that's your job. (*You = contractor. but also everyone on the team. )
@sneaky just to clarify, the grids are in the right place, their 2D revit extents are just not adjusted for each view, making it look sloppy.. I think they're using BIM360 though I haven't messed with it myself yet on a project so I don't know if it has some weird constraints. Would have namedropped bluebeam had I known as I'm familiar with that.
@tduds I'd love if we stopped sending DD sets out as messy as we do, but it usually doesn't matter for your exact reasoning. Contractor got involved for 50% DD pricing and now that I'm part of a growing team for CDs, thinks that the DD set should be some sort of starting point.
Joe, I'm in a similar situation this morning. I've been asked to speed up a new set of CDs for a repeat corporate client. We've done several dozens of these so far and have staff dedicated solely to those projects so I've only casually wondered into their space once or twice over the last 5 years. Anyways, It's taking all of my strength this morning not to tear it apart. It's almost like they deliberately are trying to rebel against every known office standard and basic drawing legibility practice... and, to make things worse, their dims are set to round-up but have not drafted the grids to round numbers. What's this, 40'- 0 3/16"? Cad will just show 40. we're good. Eugh. Very happy that I'm only a visitor to this project.
Do you have an LOD document in your contract? If not, and the contractor is using BIM360, do they have access to your model? If so how are you making sure they look at the sheets and not the model?
Someone needs to explain to the contractor that the clean break that tduds is espousing (and I support) protects all players in the game. Everyone loses money when the vestiges of aborted DD efforts haunt the construction of a project.
We typically don't have LODs sadly enough, though I've pushed it on my projects quite successfully. I think the contractor just has their own standards built into their contract to use 360... since I helped on the site that went out on Friday, I know we had to drop all our assigned sheets into a folder "to be uploaded" to the client's proprietary document management (state govt) that then gets "handed off" to the contractor who is using 360... but really I couldn't say how the contract is set up. That info wasn't conveyed in my 5 minute debrief and I only have access to that part of the folder tree on jobs I PM.
I had the same thing. the contractor shows me that if i move a keynote, it shows up as a change with their software. that's fine, i can try to accommodate them. i added doors to a door schedule, so the schedule got bigger and every door after that one now pops up as a change. the contractor starts walking through how i can change my schedule to make his life easier. nope. i'll try to help, but you're just going to have to do some of this the old fashioned way and actually look at the drawing and understand the project.
Yes, this has happened to me on a previous project. I was brought in on, what I was told was, 95% CD set. Only to look through and see no code review, details missing, wording of notes inconsistent, and products missing from the specs. I tried very hard to pitch in, but you can only do as much as the PM on the project allows. The code review was the only thing I refused to let go. I spotted some pretty blatant life-safety issues that the PM had refused to deal with. The boss made the team correct the issues; the PM was unhappy with me, but the boss was appreciative. I hate situations like this because you're expected to help but also not too much, and bite your tongue about the rest.
in china this kind of work is called "ass-wiping" and i think describes the nature and value of the work perfectly.
@midlander I dunno about you but I consider wiping my ass correctly extremely important.
What if you have a bidet?
Is the analog of bidet here just doing bridging docs and turning it over to the architect of record?
The sprinkler system malfunctioned and we lost all of the documents in the deluge.
to clarify the phrase ass-wiping i
implies wiping up for someone else
Is anyone having more difficulty than ever getting permits?
Yeah. My simple corrections took 8 weeks to review and it only took them 2 weeks to review the initial permit docs. The reason? The permit form literally got buried on the zoning reviewer's desk under a mountain of other shit and he forgot about it.
Yep. Had a small TI in southern CA take 4 months for review earlier this year. A good 50% of that was hard copies sitting in a quarantine room between reviewers. What a ridiculously arcane solution.
Here in western Colorado it's taking on average four moths to get a city planning review and building permit for new construction.
permits taking forever here as well, except on my jobs, 3 weeks tops, approved without comment. I'm magic : )
I have some flying through with no friction at all and some getting held up. Little reason why.
Or I know why. It's stuff like people are on permanent vacation, too busy to care, don't read their email or answer their phone, people are confusing, aren't taking the time to look at things and think, clients trying to do my job and not doing their job.
uuuunnnnnf gimme that friction mr plan reviewer.
what if the plan reviewer is a lady?
Whatever floats your boat. I like my plan reviewers lookin' as close to Mark Brandanowitz from Parks and Rec as possible.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/marriage-college-status-meritocracy/618795/
this article is an excellent summary of the absurdity of college rankings which should be required reading before any posts requesting advice on picking which school to attend.
Just got a call from a headhunter about becoming an owner’s rep. They called on a cell number that I only use for work. The only people who should have that number are clients, GCs, consultants, and coworkers.
he was telling me he got my number off linked in, but I don’t have any number associated with my linked in account. Just seems fishy - who gave him my number?
I have no experience dealing with headhunters, and I don’t really know what an owner’s rep job responsibilities are aside from the ones I’ve interacted with during CA. I am sort of interested, but I’m also very wary.
Do I need to carry liability insurance as an owner’s rep?
Cold calling, trying to turn a dime. On you.
I had a headhunter email me recently saying they got my email from LinkedIn. And while it was the email associated with my LinkedIn account, the message didn't come through LinkedIn. Made me wonder if they have a higher level of access to user data as a headhunter (through payment I'm sure) that let them see my email without using the contacting features of LinkedIn.
OR ...
They got my email some other way and lied to make it seem less creepy.
Almost every interaction I've had with head hunters and recruiters have left me feeling like I need to take a shower.
To your question about being an owner's rep ... I don't have any experience other than I know some former co-workers have left to go to owners over the years. They've all gone to large healthcare clients who have teams of representatives on payroll. My guess is the owner would cover any insurance requirements if needed, but I don't know if any would realistically be needed.
Yeah - I felt icky after that conversation. I have no idea how he got my number. I’m not following up with him.
I've received a number of phone calls from head-hunters... and my office extension is not listed on my LinkedIN page. I eventually figured out that the headhunters would call our reception and ask for me without actually stating their reasons so BOOM, now they have a direct line to me. I turn them down with gusto when they do that. I got one such call once and after I turned them down, they phoned my coworker who sat directly behind me.
Almost every interaction I've had with head hunters and recruiters have left me feeling like I need to take a shower.
Can confirm that I have never actually had a pleasant conversation with a headhunter before... the unknown methods for getting my private contact info are very creepy.
Helped a friend out with a huge art/design project the studio she manages will premiere in New York in the fall. So nice to work with my hands all day, only sat down for lunch...I want more days like that!
Work can be so very rewarding. If only we could dispense with the money part.
Just got an email from my main arch association. They are making it mandatory for all licensed archs to take at least 1 cont-ed course in a brand new category they call "equity, diversity, and inclusion".
They also just announced a partnership with a for-profit consultation/training firm who will, surprise surprise, provide such cont-ed courses.
As much as I applaud the effort, I am not too certain about how I feel with the sole-sourcing (and use of our dues) and general wise-guru/group hug verbiage of the announcement. Will hold off judgement until I get my hands on the cont-ed outlines tho.
Anyone else's association do something similar?
We had to take a mandatory harassment and discrimination training. They did promote a few providers of this course, but ultimately our internal HR was able to purchase an online training that satisfied the requirements for some group rate.
Reminds me of Radon requirements, being lobbied and implemented by the only Radon testing company around
My association hasn't made that category mandatory BUT within the last year we had an optional 3-hour diversity course. It was a disaster. The moderator was openly racist against white people and was combative, and didn't give any relevant advice at all. Several people left the zoom meeting during the event. I was hoping to glean some insights that would be helpful to my position, but it never came close. At least it was free and I got 3 hours of credits for it.
Our insurer requires harassment training for all managers.
I’m curious to hear about the "openly racist against white people" story.
I could tell you a few.
Yep, my corporate overlords have mandatory training classes; diversity and inclusion, sexual harassments, anti-bribery training, anti-money laundering, finacial sanctions, information security awareness, and a few others. My IL arch license requires sexual harrassment certified training if I remember right; hoping my corporate one works, but is based on England's/Euro laws rather than US.
I'm unclear, Non: is this now required to maintain your license?Are they instituting a D&E credit in addition to your HSW credits? Or is this just to maintain local membership? We're mid-way through an implicit bias / equity lens training at my office and it seems to be well received by pretty much everyone. No issues so far, or at least none that have come up vocally.
Tduds, it’s unclear if it is a new category to be completed on every 2 year cycle but the wording certainly implied it was a perpetual thing.
Who needs CAD standards?!... Just name drawings and files however you like!
Quiet troll.
How rude!
Only a thinly veiled troll would say that. :P
You've googled my name haven't you? :)
Jaetten, or rather jätten or jætten - the correct spellings, do indeed mean 'the troll' or 'the giant'
The best thing about standards is there are so many to choose from!
Jaetten - I didn't look you up. I just read your post. Troll.
Not sure I see the link, but ok.
You don't see how your post was an antagonistic attempt to get responses? It may be a language / cultural thing.
It's OK though. I thought you were just being cheeky.
sometimes coming up with a file name is the only creative endeavour of a day...
Sad but true.
randomised, I didn’t know you worked at my first office too. The other creative endeavor was when someone would forget to log-off or lock their computer when they went to lunch. All sorts of creative things you can do with their autoCAD shortcuts during a lunch break.
EA, I'd get Peter Zumthor on you within a metric second if I found out you touched my settings.
Which is why I learned to always "windows + L" when you step away from your computer. But yeah, it was all fun and games until you had it happen to you.
I was always nice about it and only changed a couple things I could quickly change back. I myself was this close to going Peter Zumthor on someone who "couldn't remember" what they changed on my computer when they did it to me once.
If you ever want to give someone a complete meltdown: Screenshot the desktop. Make the screenshot the desktop background. Hide desktop shortcuts. Hide the taskbar. Sit back and watch.
You evil bastard
That's hilarious, and I would ____ anyone who did that to me.
done that tduds...was great fun to watch.
Chad. more of a 'rant' than anything else... What's the point of spending time on setting up a cad system when people don't use it....
Never mind.
jaetten. the goal is not to get work done. it's to fill your day with committee meetings.
what is that "going zumthor" about? is he temperamental?
JLC-1... see recent deaths of 2 famous architects within 24hrs from each other. I don't think we even need a trial.
tduds, I’d do that to my big brother growing up. So much fun. He once made the mouse pointer a single pixel. Probably less effective with touchscreens becoming more prevalent.
Another one was to open the properties of the desktop shortcuts and make them open different folders and programs. Double click Revit for example and it opens the archinect website. Easy enough to work around but frustrating until you realize what’s going on.
What about removing the old ball from the mouse trick?
Classic
This explains everything.
Wine bar "research" on the boss' dime on a sunny Friday afternoon. This job does occasionally have it's perks. Happy weekend everybody.
Yesterday I had a really nice reunion with folks in the small firm I was part of for twenty years, before leaving 15 years ago. I've stayed in touch and stopped by for chat or lunch a couple of times a year; they continued to invite me to their holiday bash every year; and I've invited some of them to be guest critics in design reviews over the years. Five years ago the junior partner left (amicably) to join a big A/E firm, and took a handful of people with him. The senior partner kept the office and a couple of folks to focus just on housing projects. At 85, he told me yesterday he's 'thinking' about 'possibly' going into 'semi' retirement, though he's not sure what he'll do with himself.
The occasion was the closing of the physical office space, as people have moved on and the remainders work at/from home. Sad to say a final goodbye to the converted storefront where I cut my architectural teeth, and learned the field (and adulthood) from two amazing and wonderful guys-- and their wives, both around all the time and very involved in the arts and academia. I'm a big 'place' and 'nostalgia' guy, so driving by and knowing I can't stop in there anymore is a bummer.
The great news is that the relationships continue, even with gaps of time. Hang around good people you admire, and maintain those relationships... that's the lesson I've learned.
Great post. In the end, all we have is our memories, and if you have good ones then it was all worthwhile.
That's a good story, citizen. Getting older is wonderful in how it give perspective to previous experiences.
That's actually a great metric for choosing a place to work. "Would I stop by and hang out with these people after I no longer work here?"
Correct - I still hang out / text my friends from my first office a lot.
I still speak with my old boss and mentor. Hell we're buddies on social media.
Looks like Igor is jealous of Theaster's swagger.
Now that's a coincidence. My cats are named Igor and Theaster. What are the odds?
He’s jealous of his serpentine...
Good cat names.
OMG when I work in Revit I spend 2/3 of the day waiting for it to regenerate.
I feel like that's a hardware issue, not Revit's fault.
Could also be user error. There are plenty of ways to cause a Revit model to run slowly.
It’s a BIM 360 model, in the cloud, and it’s a huge project.
insert Donna yells at clouds meme.
That is probably why. When you have a lot linked files the models take a bit to save. This gets worse if people are creating and copying in place families throughout the model.
Worksets, Worksets, Worksets...
Standards, Standards, Standards.
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I feel your pain. Go for a walk and get a coffee while you wait. :)
I can LOL at myself for yelling at clouds, because it's true, but I also recently heard from a friend who's "putting together a team" for a larger firm opening a local office and wants me to send my resume and my first thought was "but will I have to use Revit?".
Donna, you don't need to use revit to write up your resume. MS Word, or even google docs is fine.
You will have to use Revit though Donna. That's the profession.
so many grey hairs in our office that don't touch revit and don't even produce anymore... wonder if I can dye my hair grey and get out of production work
If you're not working in Revit you're probably not too involved in design anymore. That is unless you're doing a lot of sketching or Sketchup work. :P
Chad, we have two main designers in our office (principals) who don’t touch Revit - they use SketchUp. The other person who does significant design uses SketchUp for design then has become proficient enough in Revit to do some production ( small to medium projects). The design work I do (on small projects) is autocad with hand sketching on top, then autocad for production. My husband’s company does architecture-scaled projects and they only use rhino.
I've never worked in a firm where 'designers' didn't also do production, at least occasionally. I use a combination of hand sketching and Revit for my design work. I know some say that Revit isn't good for design but I've never had an issue with it.
Having used Revit since 2006, doing hospitals, on Lenovo laptops, the ability to not load, or unload burdensome worksets was a life saver.
Confession time: I've never actually drawn a CD set. But my knowledge of how buildings actually get built is pretty darn good. Good enough to lead others who do the production.
me too... actually. I sometimes feel out of place here as someone who is mostly focused on lead design work. I do do production work through DD though and much prefer revit for that. still rhino and sketchup for the 3d design studies though.
I guess the upside to a slow Revit model is I've never gotten so focused and deep into the "flow" that I move faster than the computer and crash the drawing, which has happened to me many times in Autocad. If my Revit file crashes it's just because it decided to, for its own reasons. Which has also happened many times.
maybe you're just too fast in CAD - it gives you unrealistic expectations!
We do all our design work and con. docs in Revit. And since there are only two of us the building science department (we are an engineering firm, we dont provide arch service), Who ever designed it, is taking it through to opening day.
Obituary: Terence Riley, 1954–2021
OMG when I work in Pencil I have to empty the sharpener 2/3 times a day.
I'd let you try my PEN by Pigma, but it has some disadvantages - doesn't work in the dark or when my hands are sweaty. And it costs at least 10 times more.
Actually Miles that raises an interesting qustion for me: I burn through pens fairly quickly when hand-sketching because I crush the tip. So that's, let's say, 1-3 new pens a week, so I'm tossing say three of these in the landfill every week:
That's say an ounce of plastic times three every week which is about 10 pounds of plastic every year. Is that more environmentally destructive than a Revit model?
I don't really count the paper in this scenario, because trees are a renewable resource. Plastic is the real enemy.
Of course, there's a lot of plastic in a computer, which gets landfilled every ten years or so. But there's also the toxic brew that no doubt makes up the ink in a Sharpie. The fumes alone are anthropocenic ;-).
I use a fountain pen and refill it from bottles of ink - no disposable cartridges. There is also a not insignificant amount of energy used by computers, much of it generated by fossil fuels and delivered at 60% loss over the antiquated power grid.
if you think that's bad you should see how much waste is generated when they build the buildings! but the fumes on sharpies are unbearable. why would you prefer them to pigma pens or similar?
I don't know, I've never tried a Pigma.
midlander - what type of pigma pens do you use? Are they the Microns? If so I find that they don't flow very fast. Quick sketching seems to dry them out fast.
https://www.yookers-shop.com/
or, for the cheap knock-offs: https://www.jetpens.com/Point/...
Pentel TRJ50 Tradio Stylo Pen, best pen for sketching/drawing I’ve ever had (and it has refills)...
Rando - how quickly does the ink dry on trace?
Chad - yes actually i use a variety. pigma microns for more careful drawings after rougher fast studies. the fast ones i use pentel sign pens. to be honest i horde pens and don't worry too much what type. pigma graphic pens and pilot super color markers too.
Chad, never have issues with drying speed, but am right handed so that helps, it is not waterproof however...
Current view.
What type of internet access do you have? Also what are the specs on your computer. Both of these can slow this process down.
If this is taking more and a few minutes then something isn't right. We run fiber and robust machines. Even when saving a 470 MB model with another 355 MB of linked models saving to the cloud only took about two minutes.
I can’t answer those questions, Chad. As in, I don’t have any idea what the answers are.
I still think it's a problem when you combine *even with the best computers* "saving should only take 2 minutes" with "don't forget to save every 15 or so minutes"... so over 10% of my time is supposed to be running to the breakroom to get coffee? that's gonna be a lot of coffee
If you had to move a bay of 5 lavs to make room for a baby changing table, how long would it take? Then, when plumbing updated their model, how long do you think it should take them to replumb? Did you guess 6-8 hours because that's what I'm being told... better question, why are we modeling every fitting and the pipe slope... it's not a LOD 500 contract, there's nothing else in the wall to conflict...
Joseff - You realize that in Revit there are two types of save. Save to Local and Save to Central? Local saves only take a few seconds. Save to Central takes your local model copy and saves to the model in the cloud / server. For really large models this can take a couple of minutes and is only done once every few hours typically.
As for your plumbing model question - why not ask MEP? I know that Revit requires a certain amount of modeling for the MEP in order to provide calculations. Pipe fittings and slope are part of that required modeling.
What's the difference between save to local, save to central, and sync to central?
If you're still moving Lavs there's no reason to have pipes modeled.
Donna –
First off there are two types of Revit files, Local and Central. Central files must be created via work-sharing and are stored on an office server. Think of this as the final or main model.
When you open the central file, a Local File is created on your hard drive. This Local File is what is you're doing all your work in. Revit will create backup local files as often as you tell it to.
A Local Save will save to your hard drive. This typically takes less than 30 seconds.
A Save to Central will take your Local File and save anything you’ve changed in it to the Central Model. This typically takes 1-2 minutes depending on file size.
A Sync to Central is very much like Save to Central but instead of saving to a server it is saved to the Revit Cloud. This also saves a backup version of the file to a server of your choosing. Basically Revit saves to the cloud and creates a normal central file as a backup. This can take anywhere from 2-10 minutes depending on internet speed and project size.
^Chad, to add, sync to central will also update your local copy so that it matches the central model. Important when more than one person is messing around.
rather than add more snark... I'll just ask Chad, do you not cause problems with the team by saving locally and waiting to sync until later? We're told to always sync... if we do wait to sync (say every 2 hours or so) it then takes 15 minutes to catch up and sometimes throws errors... I guess on the plus side the coffee breaks get condensed, maybe I can squeeze second breakfast in
what about third breakfast?
revit stans represent!
Elevenses
Josef - Saving to Central is done often. Syncing to the cloud is done on regularly scheduled times - typically every 2 hours. At least that's how we've done it. Haven't had any issues. You may have your work-sharing configured differently than ours. Just like when working from a central model when a team member touches a part of the model in the cloud they 'own' it. For anyone else to modify that element they must get permission from the 'owner' and sync to the cloud model. This also happens if you go to modify an element that someone else has recently changed in their local model. Again, it sounds like your central / cloud models don't have their work sharing set up correctly.
I'm still not sure why it's taking so long for your files to sync to the cloud. I think you must have a model with a lot of errors in it and / or slow internet speeds.
I should add that this monitoring of the central and cloud model doesn't require you to save to central or sync to the cloud. Revit simply monitors all the local models and compares them back to the central / cloud model.
if I swivel my chair away from my computer I see this:
So at least I can refocus my eyes while I wait for the regeneration to finish.
Swivel more often than not. You are worth it Donna.
You're looking at the view and not the jail bars, right? (Not that I can talk--my home office only has a tiny window, though a nice view.)
Anyone else watch John Oliver's piece on sponsored content and think of the occasional sponsored news items here on Archinect? No, just me?
I'm not necessarily trying to directly say the issues Oliver is pointing out exist with the sponsored Archinect articles, but since I've complained about how I don't feel they should be included as "news" before, I figured I'd post it up and see how long before it gets taken down.
Economics at work, because money is the only thing that matters. The end result is a media landscape that consists almost entirely of advertising in one form or another - from paid placement to brand integration to straight-up propaganda. In many ways traditional advertisements are the most honest part of media because you know they are trying to sell you something.
it was a bit of a historical aberration that ordinary people once thought there was fair unbiased news just kindly provided for public benefit. now you know!
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Most of my comments are sponsored by kicking horse coffee or some local craft brewery, depending on the time of day.
Your comments are sponsored by Snark Brewery. :P
Uhg.
We lost power twice over the weekend and once yesterday. This has caused us to have server and network issues.
Yesterday - no internet, e-mail, or phones .
Today - no server access.
Good thing I can sketch well.
we put a down payment on a generator in Feb...we were told 6mo wait for availability
go outside and give no f*cks for a few hours...forget the deadlines on a week day!
Not allowed to. Have to stay in the office for a 1pm meeting. :(
Proto - can you expand? Natural gas tied to the grid? Diesel tank? Or something else? I'm curious about your setup if you can share any details
We're getting natural gas piped from the street. Diesel offers a solution in the cascadia earthquake scenario, but 50hrs of run time is a little limiting ultimately. Our typical outage is because we are in a forest and our local power is all above ground (storms that down branches). We've been suffering multiple outages each year, some extending as much as 7 days. So, the office is useless during those times. I think the ultimate backup is PVs on the roof/batteries in garage, but this is more economical for the moment & less likely to be outdated in 5yrs.
I have a manual pencil sharpener for when the electric one is offline.
@proto, if you install a PV system (even a small one) at the same time as a generator, and associated emergency circuit and transfer switch upgrades, battery backups, etc, you are eligible for federal grants for essentially everything except the generator itself. All those expensive inverters, emergency circuit, the pv's of course, transfer switches, new boxes, etc can be lumped in with cost of the solar system and then become eligible for the credits/ grants. Check it out.
@ archanonymous, something to think about, thx, i'll look into it
@miles, I keeping breaking lead on the monitor so a manual sharpener is just the thing! ;)
Yes, I am a 54-year-old woman who just giggled outloud that I've been asked by a contractor to "please take a quick look at these erection drawings". Inside I'm still 12.
Did you tell him he was short about four inches?
Hopefully they're printed, Donna. Office computers will block online NSFW materials. (So I've been told.)
"I'll do what I can but really think it would help if I observed the erection as it is happening."
Tell them to be careful if any shaving of nuts is required
[NZaccent]"We'll put all hands on deck & hop on it right away!"[/NZaccent]
Been seeing more people come into the office. Mostly parents of school age kids. they look rather haggard - more so than the last time I saw them.
Hi fellow archinectors! After reflecting on several conversations both here and in real life, I really don't like how I've been coming across lately - combative, impatient, and often insulting. I need to get my daily stress under control and forums like this have slowly become a place to let out my frustrations and that's just not fair to anybody. It just perpetuates the stress.
So I'm taking a break. Not sure for how long, but I'll be back.
I want to wish everyone the best and I'm sure we'll talk later this summer. Take care!
i hadn't noticed it - you're one of the consistently reasonable posters. but IRL always takes precedence. good luck and enjoy the summer!
Can't say I've noticed much hostility out of your posts but mental health, however one defines it, is important. Best of luck and there's a cold beer waiting for you if ever our provincial border walls go down and you happen to find yourself on my side. 8-)
Thanks for posting this, b_b, though I haven't witnessed any troublesome posts. I do appreciate your mention of real life, because I recognize my disposition has gotten more prickly and less patient in the last year or so. I need to relax and just let stuff go... so I'm glad you brought up the issue. Don't stay away too long.
I’ll miss you bowling ball! But do take care of yourself.
Take care of yourself and we'll see you when you come back.
Completely stressed out, fucked up royally with some fabrication and was found out when team went to site to install said fabricated item.
Been feeling so low and lost if I want to continue this, workload been manic for the last few months for some unknown reason.
I see a few beers.
wish you a healthy peace. work is too crazy for so many people recently.
It's not just work. Here in Paradise you can't get a sub if your life depended on it. doG help you if your toilet backs up. A caretaker friend told me that bids for cleaning a house ranged from $6,000 to $12,500. What is normally a 10 minute drive can take 45 minutes or more and people are driving like they're trying to qualify for Daytona. Basic behavior reflects these realties - in other words everyone is pissed off pretty much all the time. So much for Paradise.
It happens to all of us achi. Think of it as a learning experience.
Thanks for posting, archi. We can all relate to this. It stings like a mother, no doubt. But it happens, time passes, and we move on. Don't flog yourself for more than a day or two; after that, try to let it go.
It would be hard to catalog all the expensive mistakes I've made! Most didn't end up built or costing much because the project checks and balances worked correctly. It is never only your fault.
archiwutm8, please don’t be hard on yourself. We all screw the pooch on a project every now and then, and building things is just so freaking difficult it’s a wonder to me that almost anything ever gets built “right” the first time. As for the manic schedule, please do try to take some personal time! But don’t beat yourself up. Making things is hard.
Donna, that last sentence ties back nicely to your previous topic :o)
Thanks Donna, I was/am just really overloaded with work for some unknown reason even in a pandemic.
Finally.
After weeks of waiting, yesterday I received my architect's license. I am extremely chuffed and humbled to finally be able to cap what was a long and complex path towards licensure.
And I'll give a shoutout to this forum. I remember signing up somewhere around the time that I was looking to transfer into an undergraduate architecture program, asking questions here. That would have been almost 12 years ago at this point - wow. Scrolling through the healthy debates/quesetions over the years exposed me to a lot of subjects I otherwise would not have heard about. Healthy doses of snark mixed in always kept it light and enjoyable. Dont change!
Cheers.
Congrats on the license to snark.
Congrats on getting licensed! Posting on the archinect forum should somehow count as hours needed for a license and should obviously be signed off by the big green head.
^rando, I claim archinect time as part of my cont-ed hour requirements.
How the heck dose that work NS? It has to be some weird Canadian thing. :)
CONGRATULATIONS BENCH!!!!!!! It's so awesome to cross that finish line!
Congrats! Big weight off of your shoulders I'm sure. Comparatively speaking, there aren't many architects out there.
Finish line? I thought that was the starting line.
Kudos, Bench! You're now an architect.
Now could you take a look at my house and tell me how to add on, remodel, and identify its architectural style? I can't pay more than $63, but this would be a good chance for you to get some experience.
Thanks all. Donna no idea if you’re still working with our firm at all, hoping we can still get that bourbon down the line.
Citizen - very happy to report that I work for a large specialist firm that has exactly zero market share for any type of housing/residential projects. So when the inevitable question comes up I can politely defer to the “aww shucks don’t know anything about it” answer.
Welcome to liability world!
Bench's achievement got me thinking. We really should have an official Archinect Forum welcome/ induction/ hazing ceremony for new architects. Nothing deadly, just something fun, affectionate, and mildly humiliating.
Brainstorming here... maybe travel around the continent, and wash the cars of members who've been here for 15 years or so? Other ideas?
Instead of "thumbs upping" their achievement we "thumbs down" it? [shrugs]
^ Ironic response, EA. Or is it?
Meant to be ironic. Reality is that it would just look like protectionism and gate keeping ... "Boo! One more potential competitor! Boo!"
I'm all for something fun as a welcome gift of sorts. All my brainstorming is turning up some duds though. Red ink pad for the stamp labelled "Blood of Archinect's Trolls," ... stuff like that. Do trolls even have red blood?
I know, I was kidding ;o] You've proven yourself a witty compatriot. ("Boo!" made me laugh.)
I like the blood-of-trolls idea... maybe a festoon of their entrails to adorn the new architect's computer monitor? You know, something festive for the celebrant while suitably grim for the irritant. Bonus: if the inductee scored high enough on their exams, s/he gets to choose the 'donor'.
Anyone follow this guy on LinkedIn?
His "white papers" on envelope design seems to be legit changing the game.
Yup.
To be fair - this isn't new information. It's also important to note that any damage to the foil face (aka fasteners) of the polyiso will increase its water absorption. In typical assemblies where fasteners pernitrate the facing of the polyiso it's water absorption is increased 0.5 - 3x and it's drying time is increased 3x - 6x
I had been sold on the idea that mineral wool was the way to go, but his analysis has me rethinking that idea. TBH, it seems there's no "real" all encompassing solution, only pathways to mitigating damage. Especially if you are going to use attachment systems.
Very true. I for one have never used mineral wool except for interior fire blocking. Using any type of blanket insulation outside of the water / weather barrier seems foolish.
On a related note we don't use polyiso for below grade insulation. Instead we use EPS. It remains 94% of it's r value when wet (R3 inch), dries out fast, and has a water absorption of 2%. Polyiso retains 54% of its r value when wet (R-2.5 in), takes longer to dry out, and if the facing is compromised has a water absorption of 5%.
this one is good https://archinect.com/news/art...
foster fits an apple store inside a 17th century palazzo, thank god for italian conservation rules.
This is how I think about this, and the argument that takes down "revivalists";
This is how I think about this, and the argument that takes down "revivalists";
I walked into a school, doing some site verification, and the math teacher asked me if I wanted to teach some math. I said no, I was horrible at math, he said c'mon. I explained that it's a common misconception that architects are good at math. He chuckled. I told him that it's common for architects to tell the layperson, the only numbers we needed to know, were the ones to our structural engineers.
He did not chuckle.
Another bullshit artist taken down.
I don't follow - who is the BS artist in this story? You?
Let's do the math. I suck at math + architects are bad at maths^2 = not structural engineers = call engineers
Bye Katerra.
Feeling sad for all the employees. I was tempted to apply for a job with them a couple years ago. Had a friend that was thinking of going over there too. Luckily we looked into the company a little more and realized we didn’t want anything to do with it.
it's one of those things like self-driving cars that i look at and think "this isn't going to work" and then it doesn't. i only wish there was a good way to get rich being right as a skeptic.
I'm so out of the loop. Never heard of them until now. They didn't last very long, bummer. :s
what is off-site construction management? doesn't make any sense
they ate Lord Aeck and Sargent in ATL and there was some office gossip on what will happen and how the old LAS partners may spin off and get rehired on some of their jobs...nothing note-worthy, but always interesting overhearing firm owners talk about owner things
I was also tempted to hop on the Katerra bandwagon, since I strongly support the concept & the tech they were pushing. But right around the time they were rapidly expanding, I'd recently been through a startup boom and collapse & the whole thing felt a little too familiar for comfort. I decided to look for a more stable place to spend a chunk of time. Feeling justified in my choice, since I'm still with the stable firm.
i only wish there was a good way to get rich being right as a skeptic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance)
It's really sad that Katerra fell apart. The idea behind it was great, but they pretty much did it the wrong way from step 1 and collapsed. It really was only a matter of time.
Last line of my text response to a client today: "All of my other clients seem happy to pay on time, without complaint." I could tell some stories but I'm sure you know the type.
That's frustrating. My current issue a client who's not signing contracts yet wants me to work on said projects.
Ask him if he doesn’t pay after eating at a restaurant. Or if he tries to negotiate the menu prices when the check comes.
Some do...
Yeah and they're call d-bags.
The more they have the tighter they hold on to it.
This client is an interesting guy. He built a telecom company of some sort and sold it, then got into commercial real estate development. I broke my rule of not working for real estate agents or developers (because my experiences lead me to believe they're not fully human) to take on his project. I've worked for plenty of wealthy people but none that bragged so much about what they have and none who complained so often about paying me for the work I've done. I'm in a good position--I don't need his job at all, it's complicated enough that it would not be wise to proceed without me, and he knows it. But I still don't need to hear that I take too long to deposit his checks (typically a few days, possibly up to two weeks.)
So this client isn't paying you on time then complains that you don't deposit their payments fast enough? RED FLAG!
He's been a client for 2 1/2 years now. I did get red flags before we signed a contract, but I checked with a couple of contractors who I know had done some work for him and they said he was a blowhard but paid. And he has paid all of my invoices, he just complains about it. I would not take the job today, but at the time it was going to be my biggest, best project. With every project I learn again how important it is to find good clients!
Here is my current frustration at work. It’s funny, but also frustrating. For the last two days we haven’t had working toilets at the office. Some kind of sewer collapse happened over the holiday weekend. So despite having a zillion RFI’s to answer and submittals to review, I’ve been breaking my day into three-four hour chunks between which I run home to use the toilet (it’s a 10 minute drive). The partners made arrangements for us to use the toilet of the brewpub next-door, but I just can’t bring myself to do that.
Why not just let you all work from home until it is fixed? We have the technology...like they say.
That's a bladder of iron you have there, Donna.
As one who, on occasion, is not above using the great outdoors as a loo, the pub toilet sounds luxurious in that scenario... especially next to multiple drives home.
Josh, we *are* actually allowed to work from home. But the Revit and submittal review work I’m doing this week are just so much easier on my two big screens at the office than at home. Very few of my coworkers are at the office.
"Very few of my coworkers are at the office"
That potted fern is looking mighty convenient. There's your solution.
Also when I head home briefly I get to see the dog, and she likes it, so win-win (I take her out to pee, too).
Uh oh Donna ... sounds like SNL already has you covered !
Bring the doggo to work! Then everything is good! :)
Pretty sure it would be frowned upon for Donna to poop in a yard.
I first read it as "(3) four-hour chunks"...and I was thinking, "isn't 8 hrs enough, donna?"
I'd stay away from good ol' "potted" Fern. She's got her own problems.
Monday morning update: we have working toilets.
Bad news: sinks are out.
On many a jobsite we'd wash our hands in the toilet tank. (Not the bowl.) Just an idea.
Never used that myself (I was never lucky enough to work at a job site with running water), but I like the idea. Flush with gray water.
Any of ya'll have GC put down portable urinals on construction sites? On my last multi-story, they had these banks of 4ish feet tall plastic triangles every 2 or 3 floors. Kept the workers from using the... drains.
this would be funny if ot wasn't so sad
https://www.bbc.com/culture/ar...
No different from the Waltons, the Sacklers, Bezos, Nike, Apple, etc. This is the foundation of 'great' wealth, and we all serve them in one way or another.
That's the sad part, but it's funny they try to appease history with a museum exhibition.
Maybe tell that to the curator and now head of History at the Rijksmuseum Valika Smeulders (the one with Rembrandt's Night Watch)...she herself was born in a former colony (Curacao) and descends from former slaves and slaveowners...this show has nothing to do with appeasing history, it is about confronting it.
I don't see the problem here. It's not like this is the only thing happening and someone is going to be like "Welp, we're good now!" after a museum exhibit. It's part of the conversation.
i think the purpose is helping everyone recognize that history is complex and amoral. viewed over a long enough period there is no clear division of good guys vs bad guys - it's all just a hopeless mess of compromise, groupthink, and well-meaning hypocrisy, with occasionally genuinely evil individuals in charge. it would be useful in contemporary politics where there is an unrealistic push to sort everything into good versus evil and simply isolate the badness away.
such awareness evades those like chemex who imagine there is some ideal standard a country must meet for its people to deserve recognition as individuals.
I'm not trying to mock the effort and the exhibition is great to raise awareness, but as a state or states - not only Netherlands - a sanitized view of the past has the same effect as thoughts and prayers, especially when such colonialism hasn't ceased, it's just legal and civilized now.
Okay they’re not lynching or raping anyone as part of the exhibition, I’ll give you that...
We have GC interviews in our office today. The clients are here for said interviews so we ordered food from a local restaurant.
Delivery driver comes in and lets us know that she can't deliver the food because the restaurant is currently ON FIRE.
Mondays . . .
did you order from shooters in rifle?
I guess it isn't bbq? or maybe it is?
JLC -1 - ha! I wish. Nope a local place in Junction. Bummer.
I think our next Colorado archinect meetup is at Shooters.
We'll all get food poisoning then . . . :)
We won't be there to eat then, just to discuss politics.
Oh you don't want to do that there.
I was there with my wife and heard a young child ask his father why all the waitress where carrying guns. The father said that only a good guy with a gun can protect us from a bad guy with a gun. I couldn't help myself and told my wife that it would be difficult for the waitress to do so since none of their pistols where loaded. Rather easy to see with modern semi autos.
The man overheard me, got mad, and challenged me to a fight. When I told him no and to please sit down he then pulled out a handgun and placed it on the table while glaring at me. I just ignored him. Cops came and said I should just leave as soon as we were done eating.
Classy place with ::meh:: food.
Exactly.
Just got off the phone with my 89yo dad, who finished the call with "Okay, honey, we'll see you...." That was nice.
Another one of those days where I get nothing done because I spend all of my energy jumping in and out of meetings where I have to tell groups of people about all the things I'd be doing were it not for the meeting.
My last few weeks have felt this way. I'm training a new hire to eventually replace an arch-intern going on mat leave soon and I'm spending more than half my day either on the phone or answering emails related to these phone calls. I booked some vacation time for august (like half the month) and realised it's much sooner than I expected. Will probably take half of november off too if this pace continues.
Been feeling like every change that I need to make is requiring half a dozen people to weigh in before no one makes a final decision ... and the cycle continues.
Last week I tried to corner a guy at the end of a zoom call to just work with me to make three decisions that he needs to make. We made one of three and he was going to follow up with me yesterday on the other two. He never followed up. Oh, and the one decision "we" made ... I told him what I think he needs and he simply agreed (I had already done this via three emails, but I was able to nail it down over zoom).
I think there are some people who measure their value by how many meetings they can call.
Makers vs managers
Ever since I discovered that essay I think about it at least once a day. I should send it to my project teams.
I generally like the threads that Piero1910 starts. They don't generate intense discussion but the questions are obviously well considered for someone I assume is a student.
He’s crowdsourcing a publication or phd and doing it rather well...
I have to selfishly brag on my kid. 15 years ago I put this picture here on TC (page 2):
Here is my kid today. He just graduated high school, will be going to Columbia College Chicago to major in Acting with a minor in Stage Combat. And he is the funniest, kindest,most creative person I know.
I've spent a looooooot of time on TC in the last 15 years!
Nice work, Donna. Especially keeping him out of architecture. Although stage combat could come in handy dealing with clients, contractors, and officials.
Congratulations, Donna! And I agree with Miles... just think of the all creative uses for that hatchet.
He’s a second degree black belt, so he can do both faux combat AND real combat!
you call that an axe?
Where I'm from (MN - aka southern Canada) - that's what is used to shave.
I call that a hatchet.
Congrats, Donna. Sounds like you've done a fine job!
That's a hand axe.
Donna, if I recall correctly, didn't he have a short run of some comics he was drawing and putting up on the web? Congrats on this milestone!
Yes, Everyday, he had a short-lived Tumblr of his piranha comics! I’m humbled and delighted that you remember.
I wasn't paying attention to this thread yesterday because of the terrible title and first post(s), but I have to give credit where it is due ... the resulting discussion, once I dug into it, has been great.
If you have a choice you will quit your architecture job, don't ya?
Good perspectives and opinions to challenge ideas, fairly civil discourse (Miles' curmudgeonry* notwithstanding), and not being derailed by trolls (yet). I need much more of this on the forum.
*I don't say this critically or as a complaint, but I don't expect anything different. Miles does just enough curmudgeon talk to remind us all he's there and part of the conversation, and then usually someone else (mightyaa in this case) seems to be able to come in and tease out the good bits. I mean this with all the love and respect in the world, but it's like having grandpa at the table for thanksgiving. It may be slightly annoying at the time, but I'd rather have him there because we do miss him when he's not. Glad you're here Miles.
I'll give this a like solely for my new favorite word: curmudgeonry.
Glad I could make up a word for you to add to your lexicon.
Enough of this dang tomfoolery. Somebody has to kick young whippersnappers like Everyday Intern into shape. Time's a wastin' ... where's my cane?
Where is Everyday Intern? Haven't seen that guy around for the past 4 years. Get with the times old man.
I'm currently on the home stretch of the ARE gauntlet with my final exam scheduled for the end of the month. Lots of changes have come down from NCARB during this time, usually preceded by a survey consisting of a few loaded questions. Today's was about "What language I, as a ARE candidate in the United States of America, prefer when reading architecture related content?" This, in relation to how English as a second language effects performance on the ARE... Of course it effects performance, but how would changing the language in which the ARE is given help one in the day-to-day professional setting?
Is the intent of the ARE to determine how well one functions in a day-to-day professional setting, or determine minimum competency in the subject matter?
I didn't open the survey, but kudos to NCARB for looking into this. Let them test candidates in the language the candidate can best show their competency. Let the employer with their employees, and/or the client with their architect figure out what language they best communicate in.
The US of A doesn't have an official language.
However, the de facto language of commerce in this country is English... Architecture is an applied profession, and being able to communicate clearly can be the difference between a successful project and losing a reference for future projects, not to mention more dire consequences I'd question the usefulness of the ARE if they don't believe there's a connection between testing your knowledge within the bounds of the exam, and applying it in the profession. It's not about accessibility or politics here, I wouldn't expect if I were to move to my SO's home country to be so accommodated, even if I were to become fluent in their language, it's so full of specialized language that even native speakers can have difficulty following a conversation if it's not within their own vocation/region. Needless to say I'd probably find something else to do there. This kind of accessibility is not helping the profession if we want to maintain some kind of credibility.
There is no de facto language in the US be it for commerce or anything else. The de facto currency for commerce in the global economy is American dollars though. The use of one does not equate the use of the other.
Using the English language dose not provide credibility in this field. Being a good architect dose and that can be done in many languages.
Unless the definition of de facto has recently changed, you might want to check back on your first conclusion. On your second point, it's the credibility of the ARE itself that I'm questioning not so much the architects that have passes that gate.
The de facto language of construction sites is Espanol. Good luck doing CA on small residential projects with only one language at your disposal.
de facto - in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
So Wiggins - you're saying that unless an architect took their licensing exam in English they are not credible enough to practice in America?
OR
Are you saying that if the ARE is given in languages other than English in the United State that the license isn't credible? Even if the exact same information is tested?
I'm questioning the credibility of the ARE as a qualification standard to practice architecture in the United States if they were to make this kind of concession. I'm looking at this as if the ARE is analogous to the Bar Exam in any given state, regardless of your personal opinion, practicing law and practicing architecture (as a licensed architect) are on similar levels. I've looked, and as far as I've found there are no states that let a candidate take the Bar exam in any language other than English. And for those confused, I'm talking about the practice of architecture as a licensed architect, not the applied process of construction by a tradesman.
English is the primary language for global commerce, thanks to the fact that the British Empire once controlled 25% of the worlds land & the US followed as the largest economy for the last 80 years. I also think its advisable purely from a practical standpoint to learn English if you live in the US.
But I don't think that matters for the ARE. If they sit there & translate every question into Spanish what difference does it make. The point of the exam is to find out if you know the material, not if you can read a question in English. As long as it's the same material you could give the exam in brail for all I'm concerned.
My wife is a nurse & ends up using quite a bit of Spanish (she's not fluent but does the best she can). We always talk about how it's more difficult than trying to do basic things, because she doesn't have any clue what the Spanish word for long medical terminology is.
"And for those confused, I'm talking about the practice of architecture as a licensed architect ..."
This is where you're just starting off on the wrong thought process. For the third(?) time now I'm saying that the point of the ARE is not to test any candidates ability to *practice architecture.* It is there to simply test *knowledge in a subject matter.* You can know everything there is to know about architecture and still fail to be someone that can actually practice architecture successfully (I think I had a couple of professors in college that fit this description). Testing someone's knowledge in their native language is going to be the best way to *test* *that* *person's* *knowledge.* Passing the test still doesn't mean they will be able to *practice architecture.*
Spend any time around other people taking the ARE and you'll find that many of the more experienced ARE candidates complain that they do poorly on the tests because the answers don't properly reflect what their experience in practice would indicate as the right answer. That's because the test is not supposed to be a reflection of what you would necessarily do in practice. It's meant to test your knowledge of the source material. Many times this is different than in practice.
Perfect example: People struggle all the time with the question of if drawings or specifications take precedent over the other. The correct answer based on AIA A201 is that neither takes precedence. However in practice I see this get messed up all the time where one is given precedence and written into contracts all the time. Does that make it wrong? Not necessarily. Not if that's how the contract is written. The contract determines what is right based on mutual agreement of the signing parties *in practice.* But for the ARE the standard AIA documents are the *source material* so you need to know what they say ... not what you did on your last 20 projects.
With sufficient study, I'm sure plenty of people could pass the ARE without working a day in an architectural office. You keep getting hung up on this idea that the practice of architecture happens in English and so the testing must be done in English. You might be right about the first clause, that practice happens in English (you're not, and my comment below points that out), but that doesn't mean that the testing has to happen in English. Again, the best way to test someone's knowledge of the subject matter is to test them in their native language.
At any rate, I ignored the NCARB survey yesterday when I saw it come through my inbox. I'm going to go dig it up and take it because apparently I can't rely on people being empathetic to ELLs instead of jerks.
Ok, the survey wasn't really trying to get feedback on whether or not anything should be changed, it was simply asking your proficiency in English and then the preferred language you'd want to be tested in. But true to NCARB fashion, the survey appears to only be available in English. Si no entiendes ingles, y no entiendes la pregunta ... ¿Cómo podrías saber contestarla?
Chinga tu madre, NCARB.
Nope, not buying it. You can find plenty of places in this country where people conduct commerce in a language other than English. Places where the predominant spoken and written language is Spanish, Korean, Mandarin, Cantonese, Russian, Hebrew, etc. There are even entire neighborhoods of cities with different languages on the storefronts and even the publicly provided street signs.
I've worked at a firm with an international presence where if you wanted to work on the high profile projects going on in China, you'd better know the language. While we had offices over there, a lot of the initial design work was done here in the states and the local office was only there to deal with developing the design and working with the LDI. That firm often hired designers in part because they weren't native English speakers but were in a language where we had projects or pursuits.
NCARB and CALA have a Mutual Recognition Agreement where reciprocity can be obtained between the US and Canada where French is officially recognized as one of the national languages.
I've met people that work in Florida and often get projects on Caribbean islands where English is barely spoken. You think the contractor will read your specs if they're written in English?
For crying out loud, one of the 55 jurisdictions NCARB covers is Puerto Rico where Spanish is the official language. It also covers Guam (English and Chomorro), and Northern Mariana Islands (English, Chomorro, Carolinian).
Those are outlier situations and in no way representative of what the majority of ESL people working in the USA will experience. Back to credibility as a profession, how many states give the taker multiple language options for their Bar Exam? If NCARB has jurisdiction over areas that English isn't the de facto/official language, then they should present the exam in those languages if a person is pursuing their license there, you chose that when you open you record with NCARB.
Again, you're assuming the examination is meant to deal with functioning in a practice setting, and not establishing minimal competence in a subject matter. NCARB already has a program to ensure candidates have functional experience called AXP. If you really are concerned that ELLs (English Language Learners ... English might be their 3rd, 4th, nth language, not just their second), won't be able to functionally practice as architects in the US, that will probably be figured out during AXP. Maybe focus your gatekeeping efforts there if you're so concerned.
I hadn't seen this; I did arch. school in a spanish speaking country, after 10 years of practice I moved to the US, where I worked as "urban designer" and didn't need a license, I tried starting with Ncarb 6 years after and they said I couldn't try at all because my school would not send the transcripts already translated. Door closed very quickly on that, I'm stuck being an employee. I now have 18 years of experience in the US but can't sit the exams.
I'm looking at this as if the AXP and the ARE work in concert to weed out those who are, and aren't suited to hold an architecture license in the US. This isn't to say that those that initially don't have the fluency level in English to pass the ARE don't, but just like the Bar exam, they should be expected to study English to achieve it. Architecture isn't, and has never been something for everyone, and trying to make it so only diminishes the value of architecture as a profession. As I previously stated, I wouldn't expect a similar concession if I moved to my SO's country and wanted to be a licensed architect there, and I know they wouldn't give it.
No.
The ARE isn't a test that is applicable to only the US. You are able to apply for and get architectural licensure in other countries with it as well. There may an additional exam or two to take in these countries. For these exams the units are in metric but the tests can be in English if requested.
The country of your SO you keep referring to is an outlier and in no way representative of what most countries practice.
got the 5G monitoring nanobot vaccine 5mins ago. I can’t wait to use all my new super powers.
I heard it causes male enhancement.
Only for women though...men get female enhancement
Shhhh . . . don't tell Non that!
There ... I have Non on my tracking screen now. He's - OH! You don't want to know.
Faster than a speeding bullet train, more powerful than a monarchy, able to leap tall pines in a single bound...
Let's try again, minus the broken link.
Nice. Better be available in both languages or else you might get some poutine thrown your way. These are awesome!
Silly m'ericans... don't they know canadians don't believe in guns.
Of course! Just remind me... what's the other language? ;o]
Not sure citizen, but perhaps we can ask this guy:
That's got to be the butchest wearing of the fleur-de-lis I've ever seen.
Is that Wolverine, if designed by DC Comics?
Plutocrats
Not sure if I'm just getting old and can't concentrate anymore or Design of everyday things is just a really boring book? There's a fair amount of waffling going on.
i find written books on design and architecture (not photo-books) to be hopelessly boring. i stick to fiction and history.
The classics are often good, especially historic / archeological and treasures like Downing's 1850 The Architecture of Country Houses - which certainly wasn't a parody but can easily be viewed as one.
Books by architects today are uniformly awful PR campaigns.
i stopped reading books that were exclusively about architecture years ago- many others writers from other disciplines have much more interesting things to say, often indirectly, about architecture and design.
I stopped reading arch books at the same time as I finished grad school. Don’t think I’m missing much
Maybe it’s the book...could give The Language of Things by Deyan Sudjic a try, I even finished this one.
this reminded me of some of the threads here
Throw in a weird, slightly racist comment from x-jla and that's pretty much this entire form.
Dilbert is appropriate on multiple levels in that case.
Oh, hey. Been a bit. Did I miss anything neat?
Pete! Nah, only an uprising or two, and just the right amount of devastating but understated wit.
Nice! I managed to avoid logging on for the duration that I was out (made a little Pete)
Oooooh, a mini-you? congrats.
you were "making" it all this time? or just receiving it? congrats anyway!
Substantial completion was delayed a bit. Seems the contractor wanted perfection, which is OK by me. The CDs were dodgy to begin with.
Congrats Sneaky!
...BTW, how did you get your name?
Made it up out of the blue one day when I wanted to join 'nect.
Congratulations, Pete! Glad to see you have lots of free time now =O]
hmmm, SneakyPete...not what contractor says... ;)
Congratulations Pete!! It's the best thing ever.
Congrats on the mini-Pete!
Thanks! Babies are the best things ever.
Re: your name ... you should have trademarked or copyrighted it when you had the chance. Bryan Cranston stole it for a TV series for Amazon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneaky_Pete
Nice work if you can get it.
Congrats Pete!
Congrats! the unveiling of the project when the scaffolding comes down is otherworldly
I just realized my desk fan looks like Sir Norman designed
it.
Or Frederick's of Hollywood (image NSFW].
The arm on your lamp isn't plumb.
I have the same magnetic level... but in red. I also used to keep it on my task lamp back when in school.
Sketchy
p in the wild, a rare breed in these parts.
Non, I think this one came in an IKEA tool set.
JLC... that makes sense.
PM: “so - who wants to tackle BOMA?”
:crickets:
PM: “anyone?”
PA: “I volunteer the person who will be joining the team tomorrow.”
BOMA is annoying, but it's basically busy work for a few hours / days.
It's just busy work til you fuck something up and the client's lender is looking for the missing 823 sf in the project that never "existed" in the first place.
Good point.
One of the reasons I never understood assigning these kinds of tasks to the kids, unless the oversight/ education is actually good, which usually takes more time than getting an experienced person to do it.
BOMA? Good way to piss off the client and if you make a really bad boo-boo, get the project cancelled.
Bathroom and core layouts? The most likely spot to get dinged in an inspection or plan review, especially on accessibility.
Door Schedule? The source of many a pricey change order.
God, door schedules. Especially Revit door schedules.
I always do BOMA for my projects (PM here)... so does another PM I know... everyone else at all levels some how find one of us when it's their turn. "well, I don't want to make a mistake and it's a quick turn around." uhuh...