I am starting a new thread that is about other threads. You can talk about other discussions taking a place in Archinect and make cross references to a particular link, picture, response and whatever else you deem necessary or entertaining or thought provoking about the other thread. thus the name: Thread Central
here are some examples of comments that comes to mind:
* hey did you read on --------- thread ------- thinks frank gehry is good. hahahaharhar..
or,
*i can't believe he said that. how stupid of him. asshole.on top of it he is got hundreds of posts. gimme a break.
or,
* this is the best thread.. fuck the others..
or,
*****Thread Alert******
read the -----thread yet??? there is a dog fight going on between ----- and-----.it is about gondolas and pollution in Venice..see you there.
or,
* yeaah, i don't read that thread either. its kind a boring.
or,
*i am thinking about starting a discussion about ------------- ---- ---- will you guys in Thread Central post in it and say wow it a great thread?. it was about time 'somebody' (insert my name please) picked up on it.. and discuss it?
like whatever..
Miles Jaffe
Apr 6, 18 8:58 pm
Peter Dow (of the bridge collapse thread) is an astounding character.
Despite an overwhelming amount of self-created controversy (to put it mildly) this guy keeps fanning his own flames. I've never seen anything like it.
His attitude seems to be
Damn the torpodes - full speed ahead!
despite the fact that he launched all of them.
b3tadine[sutures]
Apr 7, 18 7:15 am
that guy, balkins level +1 crazy.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 7, 18 1:58 pm
Ricky plays Little League - Dow plays in the majors.
Le Courvoisier
Apr 7, 18 12:45 pm
I don’t think Sonna Dink’s thread made it past the admins... Pity. There was some good stuff in it.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 7, 18 3:40 pm
Do any of you guys ever run background checks? Specifically, to see if they have sued any previous architect?
archi_dude
Apr 7, 18 4:15 pm
Doesn’t show up if it was mediated or arbitrated. I’d see about asking people who previously worked with them, did they get paid on time ect.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 7, 18 4:29 pm
Thanks, the guy just moved here. I do need to check his references from where he was previously, good idea.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 7, 18 4:40 pm
Now, how to ask for such a thing without sounding suspicous?
Miles Jaffe
Apr 7, 18 5:00 pm
Start with a deep google search, it's often surprising what you can turn up. One develops a good sense of smell after a while - if you have doubts your intuition is probably correct.
Always structure your deals so you that don't get far behind, never release work without payment in full to date, and have a clear exit clause so that if they start jerking you around it's adios.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 7, 18 5:03 pm
It's not suspicious. He might very well ask for your references. It also puts him on notice that you won't take any bullshit.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 7, 18 5:55 pm
Thanks Miles.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 7, 18 9:13 pm
Ug, I can't give details but yes, humans. Ug.
Non Sequitur
Apr 11, 18 8:45 am
On subject of background checks, this has come up recently in our office because, being Canadian, we have a steady stream of applicants from conflict regions. All of us require basic security clearance just to have access to projects while others (such as yours truly) need secret level. We're not sure how to ask applicants if they can foresee any issues with them passing basic security clearance.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 11, 18 8:59 am
Secret level? Are you working on a facility for Labatt?
randomised
Apr 11, 18 9:05 am
You need to be careful indeed, Pakistan got their atomic bomb "thanks" to the Netherlands. Abdul Qadeer Khan, a former exchange student from the TU Delft, stole the necessary nuclear technology from his Dutch employer: https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/tu-delfts-dr-strangelove
Non Sequitur
Apr 11, 18 9:05 am
Miles... if I told you, I'd have.. wait, I hear helicopters.
archanonymous
Apr 12, 18 11:05 am
NS.... like most things, it is best done in a straightforward way. "You will need to pass a basic security clearance screening, if x, y, or z is true, you may not pass and should reconsider your application for employment"
randomised
Apr 12, 18 3:12 pm
But people lie...
Donna Sink
Apr 11, 18 8:17 am
My wonderful nephew proposed to his wonderful girlfriend yesterday and she said yes. I’m ridiculously excited for this!
Non Sequitur
Apr 11, 18 8:41 am
are we invited to the wedding, and, not related at all, but will it be open bar?
randomised
Apr 11, 18 8:57 am
wonderful!
geezertect
Apr 12, 18 5:33 pm
What about an outdoor wedding? Astroturf and plastic flowers.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 14, 18 10:23 am
Good morning! Catching up on the week's gossiping. Holy crap you guys.
curtkram
Apr 14, 18 11:23 am
i'm out of touch. i know trump interrupted tv last night, but i couldn't take more than a word or two before i left the room. anything else i should know?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 14, 18 11:25 am
trump who?
curtkram
Apr 14, 18 11:32 am
we start next week with a new moon. new moons mean new beginnings.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 14, 18 1:30 pm
Sounds good to me.
archanonymous
Apr 15, 18 10:45 am
Perfect timing! Just gave notice at my current job.
Donna Sink
Apr 15, 18 1:09 pm
Congrats archanon! Where are you off to?
archanonymous
Apr 16, 18 12:40 pm
Thanks Donna! I don't think I want to say publicly with some of the recent activities on the forum... I value my anonymity under this account. Suffice it to say its an amazing female owned firm. PM me though, or I think you have my personal email?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 16, 18 9:52 pm
I discovered a new drink, a French martini. Ah hah! It's Martini Monday guys. Taxes are done!
Non Sequitur
Apr 16, 18 10:05 pm
What's in it and is it better than this "california common" brew I have at my desk?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 16, 18 10:08 pm
Vodka, Chambor, and pineapple juice. It's girly, but good. Edit: not that martinis have genders, they are free to choose and be gender fluid too.
Non Sequitur
Apr 16, 18 10:19 pm
hey, keep your politics away from TC. 8-)
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 16, 18 10:33 pm
The martini is offended.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 16, 18 10:34 pm
At least it's NOT gin.
archanonymous
Apr 17, 18 9:10 am
I just discovered there's a ton of booze at my desk, and i'm only here for a few more days so I gotta drink it.
Non Sequitur
Apr 17, 18 9:54 am
Gin is delicious... Tanq10 or Hendricks or GTFO
Donna Sink
Apr 17, 18 11:55 am
When I had drinks with Peter Bohlin FAIA he ordered a Cosmopolitan, which I always thought of as a girly drink, but he ordered it so severely and minimally that he changed my mind.
Bench
Apr 17, 18 4:45 pm
Im always surprised when people raise eyebrows at my ordering a Manhattan. I always associated it with mobsters, but apparently theres a feminine perception to it? Whatever. Love me a some good Canadian rye, and its the only reliable whiskey cocktail i know of.
tduds
Apr 17, 18 5:25 pm
The only reliable whiskey cocktail is Whiskey.
Mr_Wiggin
Apr 17, 18 6:48 pm
...recently purchased a bottle of The Yamazaki - Single Malt Japanese Whiskey...
DID YOU DRINK IT?
tduds
Apr 18, 18 5:17 pm
There is just no way 5% of the population dies every year.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 17, 18 9:14 pm
I made up a drink called sir apple chrissy. A girly one. Apple schnapps, sour, whiskey, club soda, and a stick of cinnamon.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 18, 18 10:25 am
I need sensitivity training.
Non Sequitur
Apr 18, 18 10:26 am
Do you use the cinnamon stick as a straw?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 18, 18 10:35 am
No, the cinnamon stick is used as a cigar. It isn't even in the drink.
curtkram
Apr 27, 18 9:33 pm
i wonder if the dialogue would make more sense if you switched screen names when talking to yourself?
Josh Mings
Apr 18, 18 10:02 am
You all should stop hating on gin. Get some good stuff (Letherbee's, Death's Door, Finn's Gin, Reykjavik Distillery's Eineberja).
Non Sequitur
Apr 18, 18 10:08 am
Hendricks or GTFO.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 18, 18 10:26 am
I overdid gin and tonics in college. They were 75 cents at a certain dive bar.
Josh Mings
Apr 18, 18 2:20 pm
Hendricks is also a great gin. I really miss the one from Reykjavik distillery. Haven't replaced it yet since air freight costs are as much as a bottle.
Bench
Apr 18, 18 4:32 pm
Think i've mentioned this before but its still a good shout. Try Ungava from the Canadian arctic; really good stuff.
tduds
Apr 18, 18 5:18 pm
I way overdid G&Ts in grad school and somehow I'm still not sick of 'em.
b3tadine[sutures]
Apr 18, 18 8:38 pm
Hendricks G&T with a cucumber slice.
wurdan freo
Apr 18, 18 11:29 am
speaking of gin... whatever happened to the hammered thread???
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 18, 18 10:57 pm
How do you spell it?
Donna Sink
Apr 18, 18 3:23 pm
Our state Bar Association is having a "Free Will Event" at community center in my neighborhood tonight. What do you think they'll talk about?!
tduds
Apr 18, 18 5:15 pm
Whales.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 18, 18 7:06 pm
How people don't qualify for the "free" part but should sign up the sharks now to do their wills.
Non Sequitur
Apr 19, 18 7:40 am
Are you free to choose if or if not you attend? Did I freely wrote that sentence? What about this one? The hole gets deeper... did I choose to dig it? No... no, dig up stupid.
Non Sequitur
Apr 19, 18 7:41 am
*write*. Silly iPhone. I freel
y chose to not correct my post.
b3tadine[sutures]
Apr 19, 18 12:19 am
Got a call from a headhunter today, asking me what kind of work I might be interested in doing, because he had a need for a PM/PA. I told him, let me tell you what I'm not interested in doing; prisons.
Him: well you might not be interested in this role, they have a need for detention centers, etc.
Me: I'm not interested in doing work for ICE.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 19, 18 10:41 am
My very first real project was an ICE detention center. It was called INS back then though.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 19, 18 7:25 pm
Jails and detention centers are a growth industry. They're planning ahead for massive civilian uprisings.
Non Sequitur
Apr 19, 18 7:45 pm
Probably planning ahead to incarcerate all those architects who issue stamped PDFs according to Ricky's latest ramblings.
b3tadine[sutures]
Apr 20, 18 8:58 pm
wait, that baller is still here? god, that change really does the trick.
Also, re: gin. Been a big fan of sipping Old Tom gin for a few years now. Specifically, Ransom Spirits' version...
Josh Mings
Apr 20, 18 10:35 am
Is it just me or is the horse stoned? Awesome photo!
The gin bar near me (Scofflaw, named one of the best cocktail bars in the country in some magazine) has a great Old Tom gin.
wurdan freo
Apr 20, 18 4:19 pm
emulating Prince with a little bit of jon bon jovi...
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 20, 18 1:49 pm
Looks like the wolf got zapped.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 20, 18 3:57 pm
Yaaa!
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 21, 18 5:15 pm
Missing posts returned.
citizen
Apr 22, 18 4:00 pm
All of that was bizarre. Scary, too, to see his/her/its wingnuttiness coddled
.
randomised
Apr 20, 18 2:35 pm
Only now in that Shitty-thread with half the conversation gone.. it looks like I'm talking to myself like some kind of mad person.
randomised
Apr 20, 18 2:36 pm
Ah well, shit happens.
wurdan freo
Apr 20, 18 4:13 pm
I talk to myself... sometimes I need an expert opinion...
Miles Jaffe
Apr 20, 18 4:44 pm
I talk to myself ... sometimes I need a contrary opinion.
geezertect
Apr 21, 18 7:56 pm
I don't talk to myself because it always just ends up in an argument.
“””1991”
Apr 22, 18 10:04 am
someone’s having a mental breakdown
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 10:14 am
Do any of you do your own structural engineering? I'm talking about a single family residential, a straight-forward type of building. If so, how did you learn? I want to hire a structural engineer who will do the first one or two for me and then teach me. Is that realistic? Can anyone here do that for me or know someone who would?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 10:57 am
You do all the drawings, details, and specs too? Want to help me?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 11:24 am
You want to teach everybody on a thread? That sounds like fun!
archanonymous
Apr 22, 18 11:46 am
Tintt, in Denver you want Kyle Schurter and Robbie? At KL&A. Inexpensive, especially for simple projects and we're always happy to talk bigger picture principals, rules of thumb, check work, etc...
archanonymous
Apr 22, 18 11:47 am
Were rather than "we are", I'm not them.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 12:04 pm
Awesome, archanonymous. Thanks!
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 12:05 pm
Chrissy, I'm open to it. I'll talk to the rest of the team. (can I call you chrissy? probably shouldn't.)
archanonymous
Apr 22, 18 12:10 pm
If you want to send me a pm you can tell them who sent you but it shouldn't matter, they are serious professionals over there.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 22, 18 1:17 pm
I sent you an email, sir.
mantaray
Apr 22, 18 4:13 pm
This is an awesome idea, thanks tintt & Chrissy ! I have a "back-pocket" structural engineer that I've used to double-check my gut in various small renovation settings, and with a bigger renovation coming up I was actually thinking the same thing as you -- asking if he'd walk me through some basic rules of thumb for being able to start sizing things on my own. He's shared a bunch of basic guidelines on previous projects (and of course, using the wood frame span charts and stuff gets you a lot of the way there -- when in doubt, oversize (haha)) which has helped me feel more confident in my own quick analyses. Would be great to have a little crash course in this from Chrissy, thanks!
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 23, 18 9:32 am
Yay! I'll see if I can make it work!
Non Sequitur
Apr 23, 18 9:38 am
This is a neat idea. On the rare occasion where I've done residential moonlighting, I did all the calcs myself using the guides available in my national and provincial codes. Basic span tables, concrete and rebar specs, etc. If you don't deviate, the code examiner typically does not ask questions and I would purposefully undersized something obvious to attract their attention and make them believe they did their job. I used to know truss design and would love to pick it back up again. Just been about 14y since I've had to do one.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 23, 18 9:46 am
Yeah, my plan was to not deviate to make it easy. So design is one part, then I'm guessing there are submittals and inspections too. I don't know that part at all. hmmm
mantaray
Apr 23, 18 12:28 pm
Yes tinty most municipalities make you submit your calcs for review--that's the tricky part. So far the stuff I've sized has been for off-permit work so no worries--but I have one coming up that will need legit calcs.
Curious Chrissy--what do you have to do with trusses? I imagined they would be the easiest bc as long as you list your required live and dead loads correctly, the truss manufacturer figures out the trusses AND provides calcs as part of their delivery. Are you doing anything more than that?
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 25, 18 7:08 pm
Have you seen the software that shows trusses like a heat map? Tension is red, compression is blue.
I'll pop out of past... Didn't see my post to Tintt's, but I used Strucalc for most of my smaller projects along the lines of small additions or renovations. Great little program that let me play around and try a lot of different things. I also used to it to predesign reasonable structures during schematic phases so I had the space allocations right before going to a structural engineer. You can do things like cantilevers to get the member sizing down, etc. and complex loaded beams. The only issue is that you sort of have to know structural to input what you need like loads, point loading, and transfer loads to the member you are sizing. Since I mentored under a structural engineer, it's ingrained into me how to size members and trace load paths.
(btw; I also like KL&A on projects of all sizes) I know a couple one man shops up in the hills if you are doing work up there too that were pretty laidback.
I'm also back in the forensic / litigation expert world again; Apparently, real architecture doesn't hire experience beyond 10 years. I was unemployed for 6 months before getting back into forensics (which only took a week to get a couple offers and back into a six digit salary). Looks like I'll be doing it nationally now and this new firm is getting me licensed from FL to HI and renewing various association memberships. More rants: NCARB really reams you though; $400 per transfer... AIA wanted $1400 to get me back after letting it lapse a couple years.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 25, 18 6:31 pm
Congrats on the new job!
archanonymous
Apr 25, 18 10:12 pm
Congrats on the job and what sounds like some fat stacks of cash. Hope you asked for a signing bonus
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 25, 18 6:48 pm
I just met with a realtor about listing my house. I need a whiskey. What do you guys do, as architects, when it's time to buy and sell your own homes?
archanonymous
Apr 25, 18 10:11 pm
Use a good realtor! Don't let anyone know you're an architect!
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 25, 18 11:03 pm
He was supposed to be a good one. I didn't tell him I am an architect.
wurdan freo
Apr 26, 18 1:01 am
"What do you guys do, as architects, when it's time to buy and sell your own homes? " ... regret that I spent 6 years mindfucking myself debating the fold, form and the tartan grid... instead of taking a 15 day course for 6
%... oh hell... who am i kidding it was 8 years... :D
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 5:51 am
The info he had is invaluable tho! Did you know 96% of home buyers start their search online? Did you know brick houses have brick walls?
Josh Mings
Apr 26, 18 10:48 am
Guess he forgot to mention the vinyl siding on the sides and rear.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 11:18 am
He was talking about my house. Load-bearing triple wythe. Brick on the inside AND the outside? Yup.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 8:04 pm
The realtor actually told me his fee was negotiable. I'm going to take him up on it.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 25, 18 11:01 pm
trusses, yo
archi_dude
Apr 25, 18 11:04 pm
You gotta love those interviews where they try and lecture you that your current job pays you too much.
Donna Sink
Apr 26, 18 4:11 pm
I have so much work to do I can barely think straight. Assume everyone else is in a similar situation. Get while gettin's good, I guess. <sigh>
mightyaa
Apr 26, 18 4:46 pm
Yep... it's Thursday and I've already put in 42 hours this week and looking at coming by Saturday to finish a report.
archanonymous
Apr 26, 18 5:16 pm
Yep... I just hit 40 and its my first week at the new job/ worked a 1/2 day Monday.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 7:12 pm
Busy in a good way. Witnessed one of those moments where someone runs out of the room crying no!!!! today. I took comfort in knowing that others recognize this behavior as inappropriate even though social code says we must pretend we don't see it.
curtkram
Apr 26, 18 7:36 pm
lol. i just walked out of the office at 38, thinking maybe i should stick around just to finish off the work week.
curtkram
Apr 27, 18 7:14 pm
you have to keep track of hours if your time is billable. not that you have to stick to a 40 of course, that's just for amusement.
archanonymous
Apr 26, 18 5:17 pm
Donna, Mightyaa, tinttttt, Miles, anyone know anything about my IBC question on the front page of the forum? I'm a bit perplexed and usually don't have any issues with code.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 7:14 pm
I don't know but I just looked at the code at it says 1 toilet per 10 occupants and 1 shower per 8. Is that what you want?
archanonymous
Apr 26, 18 8:07 pm
Thx tintt, that's what I found too... I was talking about establishing base occupancy # though. 2015 is 200 gsf/ person for residential, but you could have a double or triple occupancy dorm room with 200sf... Which seems like it would throw counts way off.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 26, 18 8:42 pm
Got it. Not sure.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 27, 18 2:38 pm
You'd think this would go without saying, but apparently it's confusing. If you are too busy to work on a job and you tell the client that and the client calls me instead -- it is NOT stealing a client. I even tried to give the project back because I do not steal clients. Four times I tried to give it back. The other designer said he was too busy all four times. Then accused me of stealing the client each time. You can't make this stuff up.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 27, 18 2:40 pm
and I'm so busy I've been forgetting to eat all week.
shellarchitect
Apr 27, 18 3:41 pm
that's crazy
tduds
Apr 27, 18 7:04 pm
Gotta love the Studio diet. I lost 10 pounds over thesis.
curtkram
Apr 27, 18 7:15 pm
you need snacks!
curtkram
Apr 27, 18 7:39 pm
yes, but if you have a lot of work to do you might want to supplement it with some sort of protein or a bit of lettuce or something like that.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 27, 18 9:08 pm
I got a giant box of granola bars. Curt, are you still interested in moving to Colorado? I'm looking for a partner.
curtkram
Apr 28, 18 8:53 am
i would consider offers.
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 28, 18 10:44 am
I'll know more within a month or two. Or theres this..... I'm getting lots of recruiters contacting me - I could give them your name if they are willing to recruit from out of state.
curtkram
Apr 28, 18 11:25 am
i've been contacted by quite a few recruiters as well. have you followed up and actually spoken with them? i talked to a couple before i got the job i have now. it just sort of seems that what they do isn't viable. i'm not actively trying to leave the job i have at the moment, but there are always times when i think things out of my control could be controlled better. i could probably be pulled away if your pitch was good enough :)
Wilma Buttfit
Apr 28, 18 11:53 am
I always turn them down. I'm not interested in working in a firm. I asked one a question once and never heard back so yeah. It's crazy busy is what I'm saying.
Bloopox
Apr 27, 18 3:48 pm
Weird Problems of Being Busy:Apparently I have an angry would-be-client badmouthing me around town. She called me about a residential project a couple months ago. I told her I was in the simultaneously regrettable and great position of being swamped with several large ongoing projects, can't take on new work, and also that I don't do much residential work anymore. I said I could recommend other excellent residential architects, or I could put her on a waiting list but wasn't seeing much likelihood of being able to start it until mid-summer or later.
She declined to be put on the waiting list and asked for my recommendation for another architect, which I happily provided - and I think he's better suited for the project. Since then I've heard that she visited the person I recommended, as well as a couple other local architects, and hasn't yet picked one with which to work, but has told all of them that she called me first and that I wouldn't take her project because I thought it was beneath my abilities! Even if I somehow really gave her that impression, which I don't think I did, I don't understand why she'd tell my colleagues that - it seems to imply that she considers them all 2nd choices, so why would they want to work with her when they're all busy too? I guess I should feel like I dodged a bullet with her.
Miles Jaffe
Apr 28, 18 9:52 pm
You dodged a bullet. If she's this much of a bitch because you didn't take her project, just imagine how impossibly difficult she would have been if you had. Congrats.
citizen
Apr 27, 18 5:44 pm
"...just say no to assholes"
That's a lot of noes.
JLC-1
Apr 30, 18 1:46 pm
navid ganji, wtf?
randomised
Apr 30, 18 2:08 pm
Gotta flag 'em all!
Le Courvoisier
Apr 30, 18 3:55 pm
Over the last week, recruiters have been blowing up my LinkedIn. I haven't even been at my new firm a month. Is this a new normal?
Non Sequitur
Apr 30, 18 4:10 pm
Same here, got another one this morning.
Donna Sink
Apr 30, 18 8:13 pm
Last week my son texted me a question from school for a project he's working on: "What is a problem you encounter in your work?"
I was having a slightly rough day so I responded "My biggest problem at work is clients who won't listen to me."
His response: "Megaphone."
Miles Jaffe
Apr 30, 18 9:11 pm
Ha!
Non Sequitur
May 1, 18 5:17 pm
today’s entertainment was brought to us by the generousity of Rich_9999.
Elitism and snobbery towards established practice and material detailing? Check
Junior / intern level superficial knowledge of construction? Double check
Zero to 100 sprint to assholeness with a sprinkle of sexism? Triple check
Miles Jaffe
May 1, 18 8:11 pm
Some people are put on Earth just to provide amusement for others.
Non Sequitur
May 1, 18 8:19 pm
Correct, and for some reason, several find their way here. Are we some sort of promised land for the lost causes?
Miles Jaffe
May 1, 18 9:03 pm
This system of tubes is a place where anything is possible.
Non Sequitur
May 1, 18 9:16 pm
Is tube some new hipster slang for gutters?
Miles Jaffe
May 1, 18 9:36 pm
That thread is in the gutter.
Non Sequitur
May 1, 18 10:05 pm
A dumpster fire without Ricky B? Can you imagine if he got his mitts on this one?
Donna Sink
May 1, 18 11:09 pm
I saw a thread on twitter yesterday that was an angry vegan shaming another vegan for buying a non-vegan ice cream for a sad child. I was near tears of laughter because I truly felt this guy was Balkins but arguing about veganism. it was delightful.
Miles Jaffe
May 1, 18 11:37 pm
This idiot makes Balkins look good. Really. I mean Ricky doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
Josh Mings
May 1, 18 11:44 pm
What did I miss?
Non Sequitur
May 1, 18 11:59 pm
Josh, look up both of Rich_9999's threads. You missed out.
Miles Jaffe
May 2, 18 12:14 am
Alright, I've got to stop. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You want to look away but you can't.
randomised
May 2, 18 2:45 am
That took quite a while to escalate, normally that level of dumpster fire is reached within a few posts.
Non Sequitur
May 2, 18 7:42 am
Rando, I think it lasted so long because we were hoping the OP would provide a detail or drawing of their design/solution. It degenerated after it became apparent he was not able to look at the problem in a logical way.
randomised
May 2, 18 8:42 am
Their loss...I was just getting into the subject matter.
archanonymous
May 2, 18 10:03 pm
Question for TC: Is it appropriate or not to report someone in your home market to the licensing board/ AIA/ NCARB for selling and marketing their "firm" as providing architectural services when they are not licensed architects/ licensed professional services corporation?
Donna Sink
May 3, 18 9:35 pm
I can’t believe there are over 200 comments on the internal gutters thread! You guys crack me up. Keep fighting the good (albeit absurd) fight!
randomised
May 4, 18 2:56 am
While OP checked out days ago already.
Miles Jaffe
May 4, 18 8:50 am
He must have found our incompetence and buffoonery intolerable.
Non Sequitur
May 4, 18 9:06 am
Certainly the wanker is still lurking silently in the background.
SneakyPete
May 4, 18 11:50 am
I was gonna mention coravent for vertical wood rain screens, but I didn't wanna seem like I was taking it seriously.
Donna Sink
May 4, 18 10:35 am
I started a thread on concrete, you guys. You know how much I love it, and I actually have a client right now who might be willing and able to explore some cool work with me!.
shellarchitect
May 4, 18 11:22 am
I complained awhile here ago about having to work for a new PM who I felt was pretty unqualified.
Turns out she actually is screwing the CEO, who is now getting divorced. A couple people have left the firm because the can't stand working for this woman. To make matters worse, one of the guy's sons works here, and is pretty pissed about the whole thing as well.
One of the guys who left told her she was unqualified in the middle of the office, was canned a week later. Another wrote an email to half the office that he didn't have time to do her job and his at the same time. (he said it in a much nicer way and left on his own shortly afterwards)
Anyway, I've been here just over a year and really not sure how I feel about sticking around.
Wilma Buttfit
May 4, 18 11:36 am
Leave.
randomised
May 4, 18 11:44 am
Sounds like a great place to move up quickly through the ranks now with everybody gone :)
Miles Jaffe
May 4, 18 11:55 am
The path for advancement is clear.
JLC-1
May 4, 18 12:29 pm
the company will not survive the divorce unscathed
Josh Mings
May 4, 18 12:32 pm
Leave, and pull a Scarface from Half-Baked on your way out. Sounds like this one is a bridge you probably should burn.
Donna Sink
May 4, 18 4:10 pm
While there are a lot of dysfunctional firms in our discipline, this one sounds like a real prize winner. There are also really wonderful firms. Go find one of them.
shellarchitect
May 4, 18 2:16 pm
would be a lot easier to leave if I wasn't on my 4 firm in the past 5 years, but ya, I'm not excited about the future here
geezertect
May 7, 18 10:20 am
This is about as good an excuse as you'll ever have to leave a firm. If you interview in the same city, the prospective employers probably have heard gossip about this firm and should be understanding. If not, they should be able to read between the lines when you tell them you left because of nepotism.
Miles Jaffe
May 7, 18 9:38 am
Ricky advising Trekiez on detailing, I almost choked on my gold-dusted caviar and egg omelet.
I am at a complete loss when it comes to a metaphor for this. Maybe this is what blind people say instead of 'the blind leading the blind'?
Non Sequitur
May 7, 18 12:11 pm
I so want to keep that thread alive to see how deep it goes.
Miles Jaffe
May 7, 18 12:11 pm
Slow day?
Non Sequitur
May 7, 18 12:12 pm
No... not been a slow day in months.
Miles Jaffe
May 7, 18 4:50 pm
You're such a troll. I'm laughing my ass off at Ricky playing architect.
Donna Sink
May 7, 18 10:08 pm
OMG I totally read your post as "Ricky advising Trekiez on dating...." and literally scrambled to go read the thread! Then I realized you said *detailing* and was disappointed.
Miles Jaffe
May 7, 18 11:20 pm
So sorry. They do make a cute couple, though.
Non Sequitur
May 8, 18 7:59 am
Ricky giving out dating advice? Oie.... let's not open up that can. As a side note, I contributed actual architecture stuffs in my last response to that thread. That's enough built in karma to last the next 8 "what design is this" wanker realtor posts I gather.
JLC-1
May 7, 18 1:03 pm
yeezy home....... that's all your honor.
Miles Jaffe
May 8, 18 8:04 pm
Why do I always think of great comeback lines an hour after the fact?
b3tadine[sutures]
May 8, 18 10:26 pm
It happens. It happened to me today, and when I realized, I wanted to call the asshole and tell him.
Miles Jaffe
May 8, 18 10:33 pm
Once the moment passes it's too late. I'm just trying to remember it for next time.
Wilma Buttfit
May 8, 18 10:36 pm
Sign of a gentleman.
b3tadine[sutures]
May 8, 18 11:38 pm
^one thing i'm not.
Miles Jaffe
May 8, 18 11:41 pm
Surprise, surprise.
randomised
May 9, 18 7:09 am
Happens to the best of us:
Wilma Buttfit
May 9, 18 8:44 pm
That's funny right there.
Non Sequitur
May 9, 18 7:24 am
How bad is it when the base and fasteners used to hold down your toddler’s flimsy playhouse against wind cost more than the house itself? Also, is it worse that it’s finished to match too? Asking for a friend.
Miles Jaffe
May 9, 18 8:48 am
No you're not. Hire an architect.
Non Sequitur
May 9, 18 8:56 am
I charge too much. Maybe that Trek wanker can offer lower fees.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 11:17 am
Hi Trek, forgot your sense of humour at home again?
Miles Jaffe
May 9, 18 9:19 pm
I'm trying to determine whether the quality of posts on A'nect are better before or after happy hour.
randomised
May 10, 18 5:11 am
Yours?
Miles Jaffe
May 10, 18 11:45 am
I know mine are better, my Tequila goggles confirm it. The overseas thing has got me confused, I don't know the drinking schedule in various time zones.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 11:50 am
When's the Australian happy hour?
Miles Jaffe
May 10, 18 12:12 pm
24/7 apparently.
Donna Sink
May 10, 18 1:38 pm
Mine are definitely better after. Though I'm fairly happy with the comment I just made on the "what style is this" thread and I'm not drinking. Yet.
JLC-1
May 10, 18 1:57 pm
only on cannabis - when I drink, the last thing in my mind is to look at the inter tubes.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 2:38 pm
That archlife wanker certainly ain't getting any more cheerful.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 3:07 pm
Once again Arch, you've given no one here "a taste of your own medicine". You're simply not worth taking seriously and using a poor sap like you for low-bar entertainment is pretty much all you're good for anyways.
Miles Jaffe
May 10, 18 3:16 pm
Apparently it's unhappy hour in Leicester. So sad.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 3:16 pm
There is nothing to deny as there was never any ass whooping. You're just upset no one wants to play with you.
Donna Sink
May 10, 18 3:38 pm
ArchLife, comments like this ^ are not welcome in Thread Central. ArchLife, Miles, NonSeq, please take it back to ArchLife's thread.
Miles Jaffe
May 10, 18 3:38 pm
It's obvious that nobody in the real world wants to play with you, thus all your infantile blustering on the internet. Here you can pretend you are somebody. What you find upsetting us that we all know.
Non Sequitur
May 10, 18 4:08 pm
Hey... I didn't start it, or maybe I did. Not sure, too busy to keep track of discussions. Besides, there is hockey to watch soon anyways.
Miles Jaffe
May 10, 18 4:38 pm
Trekiez started it.
senjohnblutarsky
May 10, 18 3:39 pm
Gosh people
citizen
May 12, 18 1:15 pm
Touche'
Non Sequitur
May 15, 18 8:12 am
New of Alsop has got me all bummed out.
Wilma Buttfit
May 17, 18 9:27 am
Dear TC,
How do you guys deal with incompetent people at work? I'm currently dealing with having my workload significantly increased due to another person's actions. I've addressed it with the boss and the boss agrees with me and has told this person specifically to not do certain things but they persist. I like the job and I don't want to quit. This has been going on for a few months.
Signed,
Seeking the ignore button IRL
archanonymous
May 17, 18 10:14 am
kill them
Wilma Buttfit
May 17, 18 10:48 am
That is the real life ignore button, BUT then I'd be posting from jail and I'm not sure about that.
Non Sequitur
May 17, 18 11:26 am
I often face that and I typically the "go to" person to fix other people's short comings. Just keep track and ask for more money since you have to redo work.
Miles Jaffe
May 17, 18 11:31 am
Asking for money forces a choice. Fire the jackass, in which case you probably get the extra work with no extra dough or fire you 'cause you're too costly. Intelligent decisions are atypical.
Wilma Buttfit
May 17, 18 11:40 am
I already asked for more. Got a little bit, but not enough.
Non Sequitur
May 17, 18 11:44 am
^then priorities what you work on within your set hours. Don't push away more important projects just because you work with wankers.
Wilma Buttfit
May 17, 18 2:53 pm
I don't work hourly. :(
Le Courvoisier
May 17, 18 10:28 am
After being in a mid-size (20-30) person firm for 6 years, being at a small firm is freaking weird. Lots of things going through my mind at the moment.
Wilma Buttfit
May 17, 18 11:48 am
Tell TC about it. We're listening (Delilah voice).
Donna Sink
May 20, 18 10:16 pm
I, Tonya was fan-fucking-tastic. I lived in Portland during all of that and OMG I remember so much of it. But the movie is horrifyingly, wonderfully made.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 10:27 am
I have a former partner (we were "partners" for about three weeks) threatening to sue me. We did an interview with a potential client together and the client hired me instead of him. Pretty sure you can't sue for that. It's pretty obnoxious. Anyone know if I can file harrassment charges or something?
archanonymous
May 22, 18 10:59 am
You can either hope it goes away or undertake a full-on legal assault. Harassment charges/ restraining order and sue him all at the same time.
Bloopox
May 22, 18 10:59 am
What does the harassment consist of? States have different thresholds for meeting the actionable definition of harassment, but typically you'd need to be able to document a sustained pattern of contact with no useful purpose beyond - and the specific intent to - create alarm, annoyance, and/or emotional distress. You may have a problem with the "no useful purpose" part of that, if he legitimately believes he has financial damages and is contacting you to try to resolve those.
As for your former partner trying to sue you: he may have a case there, even if there was no explicit non-solicitation agreement between the two of you. Most states have some version of a "uniform trade secrets act", which potentially covers this if the client came to your firm during the time that it was a partnership. The client and their project can be considered to be a trade secret of that partnership, meaning that you can't take it outside of the partnership without agreement of the partnership, unless you can prove that you would have known of this potential client and project in some other way that would have been readily available to the general public.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 12:12 pm
The wierd thing too... he doesn't want the job and told me this as well as the client which is why the client called me. When the client called me I immediatedly called the former partner and asked if he was ok with it. He said he was too busy and didn't want the job plus he didn't think it would pay enough. So I think that means I can take it right? This guy doesn't want the job but he doesn't want me to have it either. Now that I have it he is jealous. I think he made a mistake, took the wrong risk. Former very good friend/former colleage here too. I told him again yesterday he can call the client and ask for the job and I will back off. We were never techincally a partnership, we were co-oping both as sole proprietors. The harrassment is name calling both to me and around the community and threats of various sorts including suing me.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 12:50 pm
If I'm acting out of line, either legally or ethically I want to know so I don't get in hot water.
Bloopox
May 22, 18 1:07 pm
It does not sound like you're out of line ethically. It sounds like you're saying you discussed the situation with your former partner before you took on this job, and he didn't want it then, and he's changed his mind since. If that's the case then there's nothing to feel bad about - he's just too late - too bad so sad. He's being unprofessional by asking you to bow out when the client already has a relationship with you. Who says the client would even want to switch to your former partner now? If you bow out now there's every possibility that the client will just go with a different architect.
Legally is a little more complicated: your former partner could certainly try to sue you. As I explained above, projects/clients that are introduced to a firm are usually considered trade secrets of the firm. Partners are sometimes successful in suing other partners in stealing those clients/projects from the partnership. Whether he'd have any chance of success probably depends on the paper trail. If he has evidence that the client and project were originally introduced to you during the time that the two of you were partnering, and if you do not have evidence of the conversations that have transpired since, then perhaps he'd win. Hopefully you have something in written form (emails?) to back up everything you've explained here.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 1:57 pm
Most of it was verbal but yes I have plenty in text messaging. I also have the client as a witness. The client is the one who told me this guy was too busy to take on the work in the first place. Then he told me the same. I kinda feel like I should file something somewhere. Like a restraining order but not really. The threats are enough that I'm afraid this guy is determined to sabotage me, the project, or both out of spite. Thanks by the way.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 3:22 pm
He says I undercut him, but it was before I even gave it thought. He told me what he wanted which was over 10% for architecturals alone, and I said it was too much. This was when we were "partners". So he says that's undercutting.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 3:35 pm
Found the answer on the FTC website. No, it's not undercutting, or predatory pricing as they call it.
Miles Jaffe
May 22, 18 4:21 pm
You have done nothing wrong and appear to have bent over backwards to avoid conflict. Unfortunately that does not protect you from anything.
This is a form of harassment and is extortion if there is a demand for you to do anything. You can report this to the police and file a harassment charge, at which point you can request an order of protection. At the very least you are establishing an official record of his behavior which will be useful if it continues.
If you have a record of threatening texts / emails / phone calls all the better.
Miles Jaffe
May 22, 18 4:28 pm
Also don't panic. If a process server appears at your door you will have to respond. Until then it is just a bunch of hot air. You have not violated any legal, professional, or ethical standard. If push comes to shove you counter-sue for frivolous action and claim damages for legal fees and emotional distress.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 7:28 pm
I have a license, accredited degree, and insurance and said individual has none of the above. And yes, this is part of the problem, that he says I used my credentials against him. (waved them around, lol, made him look bad that I called myself the 'a' word that he can't use) This doesn't belong in the #metoo records but it is a fine example of how a man thinks he can treat a chick in my opinion. I don't think he would do this to me if I was a man.
archanonymous
May 22, 18 7:49 pm
Well clearly your first step should be to report him to NCARB and the Colorado licensing board so he can never become a licensed Architect...
curtkram
May 22, 18 7:58 pm
if those are you friends i'd hate to see what your enemies do to you. i think you definitely have good reason to be pissed off at him. legally, i would advise not taking advice from an internet forum. especially not a forum with architects. our inflated egos tend to make us think we know a lot more than we do. mile's advice about talking to the police might be a good idea though.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 8:01 pm
Maybe he'll read archinect today and see this. And shut the hell up.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 9:12 pm
Asking an attorney. I'll let ya all know.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 10:45 pm
First attorney says it's libel and slander and suggests a cease and desist letter.
Wilma Buttfit
May 22, 18 11:29 pm
Chrissy, you bring up a good point about not legally being able to compete. And I don't think he knows that. :(
wurdan freo
May 22, 18 11:57 pm
Wow... that sucks tintt... sorry to hear...
wurdan freo
May 22, 18 11:57 pm
(In delilah voice :))
b3tadine[sutures]
May 23, 18 12:25 am
tintt, tell them to fuck off. there, saved you an attorney fee, seriously though, have the attorney write a cease and desist, or you'll get some jersey types, who know where the hoffa is buried.
Non Sequitur
May 23, 18 7:52 am
Jerry Jerry Jerry!
geezertect
May 23, 18 8:23 am
Relax........ there is absolutely nothing here! You undercut him for a job he didn't want? You somehow violated the terms of a three week old co-op "agreement"? He isn't licensed to begin with? You've told him as recently as the day before yesterday that he could have the job if he wanted it? Your client will support your side of the story? This will never materialize into anything vaguely resembling a lawsuit. The guy is a wack job, clearly. The only thing I would worry about is him egging my house or slashing my car tires before the men with white suits and butterfly nets come to take him away for a nice long rest at Shady Manor.
Wilma Buttfit
May 23, 18 9:45 am
Geezer, precisely! Except egging my house is kid stuff. I’m worried about the crazy adult version of it. If I go missing...
Miles Jaffe
May 23, 18 11:59 am
If you fear for your safety you absolutely must file a police complaint for harassment, at which point you can ask for an order of protection. Which will without doubt be granted.
Stop fooling around and get it done. You can end this game with a single phone call.
shellarchitect
May 23, 18 1:02 pm
from funny to scary pretty fast. most likely all talk, but still...…
Wilma Buttfit
May 23, 18 3:38 pm
Update: the best piece of advice I got is from my husband (the counselor/psychologist) and that is to de-escalate the situation by ignoring it. The equivalent of saying fuck off but not even wasting the breath to say it. Thanks to everyone who chimed in.
curtkram
May 23, 18 7:38 pm
good luck tintt
Donna Sink
May 23, 18 9:32 pm
Hang in there, tintt. As I told my ProPrac students, anyone can sue anyone for anything. But as Miles says, whether the case has any merit or not is the question: it could all just be hot air.
I am starting a new thread that is about other threads. You can talk about other discussions taking a place in Archinect and make cross references to a particular link, picture, response and whatever else you deem necessary or entertaining or thought provoking about the other thread. thus the name: Thread Central
here are some examples of comments that comes to mind:
* hey did you read on --------- thread ------- thinks frank gehry is good. hahahaharhar..
or,
*i can't believe he said that. how stupid of him. asshole.on top of it he is got hundreds of posts. gimme a break.
or,
* this is the best thread.. fuck the others..
or,
*****Thread Alert******
read the -----thread yet??? there is a dog fight going on between ----- and-----.it is about gondolas and pollution in Venice..see you there.
or,
* yeaah, i don't read that thread either. its kind a boring.
or,
*i am thinking about starting a discussion about ------------- ---- ---- will you guys in Thread Central post in it and say wow it a great thread?. it was about time 'somebody' (insert my name please) picked up on it.. and discuss it?
like whatever..
Peter Dow (of the bridge collapse thread) is an astounding character.
Despite an overwhelming amount of self-created controversy (to put it mildly) this guy keeps fanning his own flames. I've never seen anything like it.
His attitude seems to be
Damn the torpodes - full speed ahead!
despite the fact that he launched all of them.
that guy, balkins level +1 crazy.
Ricky plays Little League - Dow plays in the majors.
I don’t think Sonna Dink’s thread made it past the admins... Pity. There was some good stuff in it.
Do any of you guys ever run background checks? Specifically, to see if they have sued any previous architect?
Doesn’t show up if it was mediated or arbitrated. I’d see about asking people who previously worked with them, did they get paid on time ect.
Thanks, the guy just moved here. I do need to check his references from where he was previously, good idea.
Now, how to ask for such a thing without sounding suspicous?
Start with a deep google search, it's often surprising what you can turn up. One develops a good sense of smell after a while - if you have doubts your intuition is probably correct.
Always structure your deals so you that don't get far behind, never release work without payment in full to date, and have a clear exit clause so that if they start jerking you around it's adios.
It's not suspicious. He might very well ask for your references. It also puts him on notice that you won't take any bullshit.
Thanks Miles.
Ug, I can't give details but yes, humans. Ug.
On subject of background checks, this has come up recently in our office because, being Canadian, we have a steady stream of applicants from conflict regions. All of us require basic security clearance just to have access to projects while others (such as yours truly) need secret level. We're not sure how to ask applicants if they can foresee any issues with them passing basic security clearance.
Secret level? Are you working on a facility for Labatt?
You need to be careful indeed, Pakistan got their atomic bomb "thanks" to the Netherlands. Abdul Qadeer Khan, a former exchange student from the TU Delft, stole the necessary nuclear technology from his Dutch employer: https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/tu-delfts-dr-strangelove
Miles... if I told you, I'd have.. wait, I hear helicopters.
NS.... like most things, it is best done in a straightforward way. "You will need to pass a basic security clearance screening, if x, y, or z is true, you may not pass and should reconsider your application for employment"
But people lie...
My wonderful nephew proposed to his wonderful girlfriend yesterday and she said yes. I’m ridiculously excited for this!
are we invited to the wedding, and, not related at all, but will it be open bar?
wonderful!
What about an outdoor wedding? Astroturf and plastic flowers.
Good morning! Catching up on the week's gossiping. Holy crap you guys.
i'm out of touch. i know trump interrupted tv last night, but i couldn't take more than a word or two before i left the room. anything else i should know?
trump who?
we start next week with a new moon. new moons mean new beginnings.
Sounds good to me.
Perfect timing! Just gave notice at my current job.
Congrats archanon! Where are you off to?
Thanks Donna! I don't think I want to say publicly with some of the recent activities on the forum... I value my anonymity under this account. Suffice it to say its an amazing female owned firm. PM me though, or I think you have my personal email?
I discovered a new drink, a French martini. Ah hah! It's Martini Monday guys. Taxes are done!
What's in it and is it better than this "california common" brew I have at my desk?
Vodka, Chambor, and pineapple juice. It's girly, but good. Edit: not that martinis have genders, they are free to choose and be gender fluid too.
hey, keep your politics away from TC. 8-)
The martini is offended.
At least it's NOT gin.
I just discovered there's a ton of booze at my desk, and i'm only here for a few more days so I gotta drink it.
Gin is delicious... Tanq10 or Hendricks or GTFO
When I had drinks with Peter Bohlin FAIA he ordered a Cosmopolitan, which I always thought of as a girly drink, but he ordered it so severely and minimally that he changed my mind.
Im always surprised when people raise eyebrows at my ordering a Manhattan. I always associated it with mobsters, but apparently theres a feminine perception to it? Whatever. Love me a some good Canadian rye, and its the only reliable whiskey cocktail i know of.
The only reliable whiskey cocktail is Whiskey.
...recently purchased a bottle of The Yamazaki - Single Malt Japanese Whiskey...
DID YOU DRINK IT?
There is just no way 5% of the population dies every year.
I made up a drink called sir apple chrissy. A girly one. Apple schnapps, sour, whiskey, club soda, and a stick of cinnamon.
I need sensitivity training.
Do you use the cinnamon stick as a straw?
No, the cinnamon stick is used as a cigar. It isn't even in the drink.
i wonder if the dialogue would make more sense if you switched screen names when talking to yourself?
You all should stop hating on gin. Get some good stuff (Letherbee's, Death's Door, Finn's Gin, Reykjavik Distillery's Eineberja).
Hendricks or GTFO.
I overdid gin and tonics in college. They were 75 cents at a certain dive bar.
Hendricks is also a great gin. I really miss the one from Reykjavik distillery. Haven't replaced it yet since air freight costs are as much as a bottle.
Think i've mentioned this before but its still a good shout. Try Ungava from the Canadian arctic; really good stuff.
I way overdid G&Ts in grad school and somehow I'm still not sick of 'em.
Hendricks G&T with a cucumber slice.
speaking of gin... whatever happened to the hammered thread???
How do you spell it?
Our state Bar Association is having a "Free Will Event" at community center in my neighborhood tonight. What do you think they'll talk about?!
Whales.
How people don't qualify for the "free" part but should sign up the sharks now to do their wills.
Are you free to choose if or if not you attend? Did I freely wrote that sentence? What about this one? The hole gets deeper... did I choose to dig it? No... no, dig up stupid.
*write*. Silly iPhone. I freel
y chose to not correct my post.
Got a call from a headhunter today, asking me what kind of work I might be interested in doing, because he had a need for a PM/PA. I told him, let me tell you what I'm not interested in doing; prisons.
Him: well you might not be interested in this role, they have a need for detention centers, etc.
Me: I'm not interested in doing work for ICE.
My very first real project was an ICE detention center. It was called INS back then though.
Jails and detention centers are a growth industry. They're planning ahead for massive civilian uprisings.
Probably planning ahead to incarcerate all those architects who issue stamped PDFs according to Ricky's latest ramblings.
wait, that baller is still here? god, that change really does the trick.
I'm not that fond of fishing.
Hi TC, I've been missing you all! Felt compelled to share below, via the 2018 Sony World Photography Awards.
Also, re: gin. Been a big fan of sipping Old Tom gin for a few years now. Specifically, Ransom Spirits' version...
Is it just me or is the horse stoned? Awesome photo!
The gin bar near me (Scofflaw, named one of the best cocktail bars in the country in some magazine) has a great Old Tom gin.
emulating Prince with a little bit of jon bon jovi...
Looks like the wolf got zapped.
Yaaa!
Missing posts returned.
All of that was bizarre. Scary, too, to see his/her/its wingnuttiness coddled .
Only now in that Shitty-thread with half the conversation gone.. it looks like I'm talking to myself like some kind of mad person.
Ah well, shit happens.
I talk to myself... sometimes I need an expert opinion...
I talk to myself ... sometimes I need a contrary opinion.
I don't talk to myself because it always just ends up in an argument.
someone’s having a mental breakdown
Do any of you do your own structural engineering? I'm talking about a single family residential, a straight-forward type of building. If so, how did you learn? I want to hire a structural engineer who will do the first one or two for me and then teach me. Is that realistic? Can anyone here do that for me or know someone who would?
You do all the drawings, details, and specs too? Want to help me?
You want to teach everybody on a thread? That sounds like fun!
Tintt, in Denver you want Kyle Schurter and Robbie? At KL&A. Inexpensive, especially for simple projects and we're always happy to talk bigger picture principals, rules of thumb, check work, etc...
Were rather than "we are", I'm not them.
Awesome, archanonymous. Thanks!
Chrissy, I'm open to it. I'll talk to the rest of the team. (can I call you chrissy? probably shouldn't.)
If you want to send me a pm you can tell them who sent you but it shouldn't matter, they are serious professionals over there.
I sent you an email, sir.
This is an awesome idea, thanks tintt & Chrissy ! I have a "back-pocket" structural engineer that I've used to double-check my gut in various small renovation settings, and with a bigger renovation coming up I was actually thinking the same thing as you -- asking if he'd walk me through some basic rules of thumb for being able to start sizing things on my own. He's shared a bunch of basic guidelines on previous projects (and of course, using the wood frame span charts and stuff gets you a lot of the way there -- when in doubt, oversize (haha)) which has helped me feel more confident in my own quick analyses. Would be great to have a little crash course in this from Chrissy, thanks!
Yay! I'll see if I can make it work!
This is a neat idea. On the rare occasion where I've done residential moonlighting, I did all the calcs myself using the guides available in my national and provincial codes. Basic span tables, concrete and rebar specs, etc. If you don't deviate, the code examiner typically does not ask questions and I would purposefully undersized something obvious to attract their attention and make them believe they did their job. I used to know truss design and would love to pick it back up again. Just been about 14y since I've had to do one.
Yeah, my plan was to not deviate to make it easy. So design is one part, then I'm guessing there are submittals and inspections too. I don't know that part at all. hmmm
Yes tinty most municipalities make you submit your calcs for review--that's the tricky part. So far the stuff I've sized has been for off-permit work so no worries--but I have one coming up that will need legit calcs.
Curious Chrissy--what do you have to do with trusses? I imagined they would be the easiest bc as long as you list your required live and dead loads correctly, the truss manufacturer figures out the trusses AND provides calcs as part of their delivery. Are you doing anything more than that?
Have you seen the software that shows trusses like a heat map? Tension is red, compression is blue.
In Grenfell Tower News:
Leaked Grenfell dossier reveals how disastrous refurbishment turned tower into a 'tinderbox'
I'll pop out of past... Didn't see my post to Tintt's, but I used Strucalc for most of my smaller projects along the lines of small additions or renovations. Great little program that let me play around and try a lot of different things. I also used to it to predesign reasonable structures during schematic phases so I had the space allocations right before going to a structural engineer. You can do things like cantilevers to get the member sizing down, etc. and complex loaded beams. The only issue is that you sort of have to know structural to input what you need like loads, point loading, and transfer loads to the member you are sizing. Since I mentored under a structural engineer, it's ingrained into me how to size members and trace load paths.
(btw; I also like KL&A on projects of all sizes) I know a couple one man shops up in the hills if you are doing work up there too that were pretty laidback.
I'm also back in the forensic / litigation expert world again; Apparently, real architecture doesn't hire experience beyond 10 years. I was unemployed for 6 months before getting back into forensics (which only took a week to get a couple offers and back into a six digit salary). Looks like I'll be doing it nationally now and this new firm is getting me licensed from FL to HI and renewing various association memberships. More rants: NCARB really reams you though; $400 per transfer... AIA wanted $1400 to get me back after letting it lapse a couple years.
Congrats on the new job!
Congrats on the job and what sounds like some fat stacks of cash. Hope you asked for a signing bonus
I just met with a realtor about listing my house. I need a whiskey. What do you guys do, as architects, when it's time to buy and sell your own homes?
Use a good realtor! Don't let anyone know you're an architect!
He was supposed to be a good one. I didn't tell him I am an architect.
"What do you guys do, as architects, when it's time to buy and sell your own homes? " ... regret that I spent 6 years mindfucking myself debating the fold, form and the tartan grid... instead of taking a 15 day course for 6
%... oh hell... who am i kidding it was 8 years... :D
The info he had is invaluable tho! Did you know 96% of home buyers start their search online? Did you know brick houses have brick walls?
Guess he forgot to mention the vinyl siding on the sides and rear.
He was talking about my house. Load-bearing triple wythe. Brick on the inside AND the outside? Yup.
The realtor actually told me his fee was negotiable. I'm going to take him up on it.
trusses, yo
You gotta love those interviews where they try and lecture you that your current job pays you too much.
I have so much work to do I can barely think straight. Assume everyone else is in a similar situation. Get while gettin's good, I guess. <sigh>
Yep... it's Thursday and I've already put in 42 hours this week and looking at coming by Saturday to finish a report.
Yep... I just hit 40 and its my first week at the new job/ worked a 1/2 day Monday.
Busy in a good way. Witnessed one of those moments where someone runs out of the room crying no!!!! today. I took comfort in knowing that others recognize this behavior as inappropriate even though social code says we must pretend we don't see it.
lol. i just walked out of the office at 38, thinking maybe i should stick around just to finish off the work week.
you have to keep track of hours if your time is billable. not that you have to stick to a 40 of course, that's just for amusement.
Donna, Mightyaa, tinttttt, Miles, anyone know anything about my IBC question on the front page of the forum? I'm a bit perplexed and usually don't have any issues with code.
I don't know but I just looked at the code at it says 1 toilet per 10 occupants and 1 shower per 8. Is that what you want?
Thx tintt, that's what I found too... I was talking about establishing base occupancy # though. 2015 is 200 gsf/ person for residential, but you could have a double or triple occupancy dorm room with 200sf... Which seems like it would throw counts way off.
Got it. Not sure.
You'd think this would go without saying, but apparently it's confusing. If you are too busy to work on a job and you tell the client that and the client calls me instead -- it is NOT stealing a client. I even tried to give the project back because I do not steal clients. Four times I tried to give it back. The other designer said he was too busy all four times. Then accused me of stealing the client each time. You can't make this stuff up.
and I'm so busy I've been forgetting to eat all week.
that's crazy
Gotta love the Studio diet. I lost 10 pounds over thesis.
you need snacks!
yes, but if you have a lot of work to do you might want to supplement it with some sort of protein or a bit of lettuce or something like that.
I got a giant box of granola bars. Curt, are you still interested in moving to Colorado? I'm looking for a partner.
i would consider offers.
I'll know more within a month or two. Or theres this..... I'm getting lots of recruiters contacting me - I could give them your name if they are willing to recruit from out of state.
i've been contacted by quite a few recruiters as well. have you followed up and actually spoken with them? i talked to a couple before i got the job i have now. it just sort of seems that what they do isn't viable. i'm not actively trying to leave the job i have at the moment, but there are always times when i think things out of my control could be controlled better. i could probably be pulled away if your pitch was good enough :)
I always turn them down. I'm not interested in working in a firm. I asked one a question once and never heard back so yeah. It's crazy busy is what I'm saying.
Weird Problems of Being Busy:Apparently I have an angry would-be-client badmouthing me around town. She called me about a residential project a couple months ago. I told her I was in the simultaneously regrettable and great position of being swamped with several large ongoing projects, can't take on new work, and also that I don't do much residential work anymore. I said I could recommend other excellent residential architects, or I could put her on a waiting list but wasn't seeing much likelihood of being able to start it until mid-summer or later.
She declined to be put on the waiting list and asked for my recommendation for another architect, which I happily provided - and I think he's better suited for the project. Since then I've heard that she visited the person I recommended, as well as a couple other local architects, and hasn't yet picked one with which to work, but has told all of them that she called me first and that I wouldn't take her project because I thought it was beneath my abilities! Even if I somehow really gave her that impression, which I don't think I did, I don't understand why she'd tell my colleagues that - it seems to imply that she considers them all 2nd choices, so why would they want to work with her when they're all busy too? I guess I should feel like I dodged a bullet with her.
You dodged a bullet. If she's this much of a bitch because you didn't take her project, just imagine how impossibly difficult she would have been if you had. Congrats.
"...just say no to assholes"
That's a lot of noes.
navid ganji, wtf?
Gotta flag 'em all!
Over the last week, recruiters have been blowing up my LinkedIn. I haven't even been at my new firm a month. Is this a new normal?
Same here, got another one this morning.
Last week my son texted me a question from school for a project he's working on: "What is a problem you encounter in your work?"
I was having a slightly rough day so I responded "My biggest problem at work is clients who won't listen to me."
His response: "Megaphone."
Ha!
today’s entertainment was brought to us by the generousity of Rich_9999.
Elitism and snobbery towards established practice and material detailing? Check
Junior / intern level superficial knowledge of construction? Double check
Zero to 100 sprint to assholeness with a sprinkle of sexism? Triple check
Some people are put on Earth just to provide amusement for others.
Correct, and for some reason, several find their way here. Are we some sort of promised land for the lost causes?
This system of tubes is a place where anything is possible.
Is tube some new hipster slang for gutters?
That thread is in the gutter.
A dumpster fire without Ricky B? Can you imagine if he got his mitts on this one?
I saw a thread on twitter yesterday that was an angry vegan shaming another vegan for buying a non-vegan ice cream for a sad child. I was near tears of laughter because I truly felt this guy was Balkins but arguing about veganism. it was delightful.
This idiot makes Balkins look good. Really. I mean Ricky doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
What did I miss?
Josh, look up both of Rich_9999's threads. You missed out.
Alright, I've got to stop. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You want to look away but you can't.
That took quite a while to escalate, normally that level of dumpster fire is reached within a few posts.
Rando, I think it lasted so long because we were hoping the OP would provide a detail or drawing of their design/solution. It degenerated after it became apparent he was not able to look at the problem in a logical way.
Their loss...I was just getting into the subject matter.
Question for TC: Is it appropriate or not to report someone in your home market to the licensing board/ AIA/ NCARB for selling and marketing their "firm" as providing architectural services when they are not licensed architects/ licensed professional services corporation?
I can’t believe there are over 200 comments on the internal gutters thread! You guys crack me up. Keep fighting the good (albeit absurd) fight!
While OP checked out days ago already.
He must have found our incompetence and buffoonery intolerable.
Certainly the wanker is still lurking silently in the background.
I was gonna mention coravent for vertical wood rain screens, but I didn't wanna seem like I was taking it seriously.
I started a thread on concrete, you guys. You know how much I love it, and I actually have a client right now who might be willing and able to explore some cool work with me!.
I complained awhile here ago about having to work for a new PM who I felt was pretty unqualified.
Turns out she actually is screwing the CEO, who is now getting divorced. A couple people have left the firm because the can't stand working for this woman. To make matters worse, one of the guy's sons works here, and is pretty pissed about the whole thing as well.
One of the guys who left told her she was unqualified in the middle of the office, was canned a week later. Another wrote an email to half the office that he didn't have time to do her job and his at the same time. (he said it in a much nicer way and left on his own shortly afterwards)
Anyway, I've been here just over a year and really not sure how I feel about sticking around.
Leave.
Sounds like a great place to move up quickly through the ranks now with everybody gone :)
The path for advancement is clear.
the company will not survive the divorce unscathed
Leave, and pull a Scarface from Half-Baked on your way out. Sounds like this one is a bridge you probably should burn.
While there are a lot of dysfunctional firms in our discipline, this one sounds like a real prize winner. There are also really wonderful firms. Go find one of them.
would be a lot easier to leave if I wasn't on my 4 firm in the past 5 years, but ya, I'm not excited about the future here
This is about as good an excuse as you'll ever have to leave a firm. If you interview in the same city, the prospective employers probably have heard gossip about this firm and should be understanding. If not, they should be able to read between the lines when you tell them you left because of nepotism.
Ricky advising Trekiez on detailing, I almost choked on my gold-dusted caviar and egg omelet.
I am at a complete loss when it comes to a metaphor for this. Maybe this is what blind people say instead of 'the blind leading the blind'?
I so want to keep that thread alive to see how deep it goes.
Slow day?
No... not been a slow day in months.
You're such a troll. I'm laughing my ass off at Ricky playing architect.
OMG I totally read your post as "Ricky advising Trekiez on dating...." and literally scrambled to go read the thread! Then I realized you said *detailing* and was disappointed.
So sorry. They do make a cute couple, though.
Ricky giving out dating advice? Oie.... let's not open up that can. As a side note, I contributed actual architecture stuffs in my last response to that thread. That's enough built in karma to last the next 8 "what design is this" wanker realtor posts I gather.
yeezy home....... that's all your honor.
Why do I always think of great comeback lines an hour after the fact?
It happens. It happened to me today, and when I realized, I wanted to call the asshole and tell him.
Once the moment passes it's too late. I'm just trying to remember it for next time.
Sign of a gentleman.
^one thing i'm not.
Surprise, surprise.
Happens to the best of us:
That's funny right there.
How bad is it when the base and fasteners used to hold down your toddler’s flimsy playhouse against wind cost more than the house itself? Also, is it worse that it’s finished to match too? Asking for a friend.
No you're not. Hire an architect.
I charge too much. Maybe that Trek wanker can offer lower fees.
Hi Trek, forgot your sense of humour at home again?
I'm trying to determine whether the quality of posts on A'nect are better before or after happy hour.
Yours?
I know mine are better, my Tequila goggles confirm it. The overseas thing has got me confused, I don't know the drinking schedule in various time zones.
When's the Australian happy hour?
24/7 apparently.
Mine are definitely better after. Though I'm fairly happy with the comment I just made on the "what style is this" thread and I'm not drinking. Yet.
only on cannabis - when I drink, the last thing in my mind is to look at the inter tubes.
That archlife wanker certainly ain't getting any more cheerful.
Once again Arch, you've given no one here "a taste of your own medicine". You're simply not worth taking seriously and using a poor sap like you for low-bar entertainment is pretty much all you're good for anyways.
Apparently it's unhappy hour in Leicester. So sad.
There is nothing to deny as there was never any ass whooping. You're just upset no one wants to play with you.
ArchLife, comments like this ^ are not welcome in Thread Central. ArchLife, Miles, NonSeq, please take it back to ArchLife's thread.
It's obvious that nobody in the real world wants to play with you, thus all your infantile blustering on the internet. Here you can pretend you are somebody. What you find upsetting us that we all know.
Hey... I didn't start it, or maybe I did. Not sure, too busy to keep track of discussions. Besides, there is hockey to watch soon anyways.
Trekiez started it.
Gosh people
Touche'
New of Alsop has got me all bummed out.
Dear TC,
How do you guys deal with incompetent people at work? I'm currently dealing with having my workload significantly increased due to another person's actions. I've addressed it with the boss and the boss agrees with me and has told this person specifically to not do certain things but they persist. I like the job and I don't want to quit. This has been going on for a few months.
Signed,
Seeking the ignore button IRL
kill them
That is the real life ignore button, BUT then I'd be posting from jail and I'm not sure about that.
I often face that and I typically the "go to" person to fix other people's short comings. Just keep track and ask for more money since you have to redo work.
Asking for money forces a choice. Fire the jackass, in which case you probably get the extra work with no extra dough or fire you 'cause you're too costly. Intelligent decisions are atypical.
I already asked for more. Got a little bit, but not enough.
^then priorities what you work on within your set hours. Don't push away more important projects just because you work with wankers.
I don't work hourly. :(
After being in a mid-size (20-30) person firm for 6 years, being at a small firm is freaking weird. Lots of things going through my mind at the moment.
Tell TC about it. We're listening (Delilah voice).
I, Tonya was fan-fucking-tastic. I lived in Portland during all of that and OMG I remember so much of it. But the movie is horrifyingly, wonderfully made.
I have a former partner (we were "partners" for about three weeks) threatening to sue me. We did an interview with a potential client together and the client hired me instead of him. Pretty sure you can't sue for that. It's pretty obnoxious. Anyone know if I can file harrassment charges or something?
You can either hope it goes away or undertake a full-on legal assault. Harassment charges/ restraining order and sue him all at the same time.
What does the harassment consist of? States have different thresholds for meeting the actionable definition of harassment, but typically you'd need to be able to document a sustained pattern of contact with no useful purpose beyond - and the specific intent to - create alarm, annoyance, and/or emotional distress. You may have a problem with the "no useful purpose" part of that, if he legitimately believes he has financial damages and is contacting you to try to resolve those.
As for your former partner trying to sue you: he may have a case there, even if there was no explicit non-solicitation agreement between the two of you. Most states have some version of a "uniform trade secrets act", which potentially covers this if the client came to your firm during the time that it was a partnership. The client and their project can be considered to be a trade secret of that partnership, meaning that you can't take it outside of the partnership without agreement of the partnership, unless you can prove that you would have known of this potential client and project in some other way that would have been readily available to the general public.
The wierd thing too... he doesn't want the job and told me this as well as the client which is why the client called me. When the client called me I immediatedly called the former partner and asked if he was ok with it. He said he was too busy and didn't want the job plus he didn't think it would pay enough. So I think that means I can take it right? This guy doesn't want the job but he doesn't want me to have it either. Now that I have it he is jealous. I think he made a mistake, took the wrong risk. Former very good friend/former colleage here too. I told him again yesterday he can call the client and ask for the job and I will back off. We were never techincally a partnership, we were co-oping both as sole proprietors. The harrassment is name calling both to me and around the community and threats of various sorts including suing me.
If I'm acting out of line, either legally or ethically I want to know so I don't get in hot water.
It does not sound like you're out of line ethically. It sounds like you're saying you discussed the situation with your former partner before you took on this job, and he didn't want it then, and he's changed his mind since. If that's the case then there's nothing to feel bad about - he's just too late - too bad so sad. He's being unprofessional by asking you to bow out when the client already has a relationship with you. Who says the client would even want to switch to your former partner now? If you bow out now there's every possibility that the client will just go with a different architect.
Legally is a little more complicated: your former partner could certainly try to sue you. As I explained above, projects/clients that are introduced to a firm are usually considered trade secrets of the firm. Partners are sometimes successful in suing other partners in stealing those clients/projects from the partnership. Whether he'd have any chance of success probably depends on the paper trail. If he has evidence that the client and project were originally introduced to you during the time that the two of you were partnering, and if you do not have evidence of the conversations that have transpired since, then perhaps he'd win. Hopefully you have something in written form (emails?) to back up everything you've explained here.
Most of it was verbal but yes I have plenty in text messaging. I also have the client as a witness. The client is the one who told me this guy was too busy to take on the work in the first place. Then he told me the same. I kinda feel like I should file something somewhere. Like a restraining order but not really. The threats are enough that I'm afraid this guy is determined to sabotage me, the project, or both out of spite. Thanks by the way.
He says I undercut him, but it was before I even gave it thought. He told me what he wanted which was over 10% for architecturals alone, and I said it was too much. This was when we were "partners". So he says that's undercutting.
Found the answer on the FTC website. No, it's not undercutting, or predatory pricing as they call it.
You have done nothing wrong and appear to have bent over backwards to avoid conflict. Unfortunately that does not protect you from anything.
This is a form of harassment and is extortion if there is a demand for you to do anything. You can report this to the police and file a harassment charge, at which point you can request an order of protection. At the very least you are establishing an official record of his behavior which will be useful if it continues.
If you have a record of threatening texts / emails / phone calls all the better.
Also don't panic. If a process server appears at your door you will have to respond. Until then it is just a bunch of hot air. You have not violated any legal, professional, or ethical standard. If push comes to shove you counter-sue for frivolous action and claim damages for legal fees and emotional distress.
I have a license, accredited degree, and insurance and said individual has none of the above. And yes, this is part of the problem, that he says I used my credentials against him. (waved them around, lol, made him look bad that I called myself the 'a' word that he can't use) This doesn't belong in the #metoo records but it is a fine example of how a man thinks he can treat a chick in my opinion. I don't think he would do this to me if I was a man.
Well clearly your first step should be to report him to NCARB and the Colorado licensing board so he can never become a licensed Architect...
if those are you friends i'd hate to see what your enemies do to you. i think you definitely have good reason to be pissed off at him. legally, i would advise not taking advice from an internet forum. especially not a forum with architects. our inflated egos tend to make us think we know a lot more than we do. mile's advice about talking to the police might be a good idea though.
Maybe he'll read archinect today and see this. And shut the hell up.
Asking an attorney. I'll let ya all know.
First attorney says it's libel and slander and suggests a cease and desist letter.
Chrissy, you bring up a good point about not legally being able to compete. And I don't think he knows that. :(
Wow... that sucks tintt... sorry to hear...
(In delilah voice :))
tintt, tell them to fuck off. there, saved you an attorney fee, seriously though, have the attorney write a cease and desist, or you'll get some jersey types, who know where the hoffa is buried.
Jerry Jerry Jerry!
Relax........ there is absolutely nothing here! You undercut him for a job he didn't want? You somehow violated the terms of a three week old co-op "agreement"? He isn't licensed to begin with? You've told him as recently as the day before yesterday that he could have the job if he wanted it? Your client will support your side of the story? This will never materialize into anything vaguely resembling a lawsuit. The guy is a wack job, clearly. The only thing I would worry about is him egging my house or slashing my car tires before the men with white suits and butterfly nets come to take him away for a nice long rest at Shady Manor.
Geezer, precisely! Except egging my house is kid stuff. I’m worried about the crazy adult version of it. If I go missing...
If you fear for your safety you absolutely must file a police complaint for harassment, at which point you can ask for an order of protection. Which will without doubt be granted.
Stop fooling around and get it done. You can end this game with a single phone call.
from funny to scary pretty fast. most likely all talk, but still...…
Update: the best piece of advice I got is from my husband (the counselor/psychologist) and that is to de-escalate the situation by ignoring it. The equivalent of saying fuck off but not even wasting the breath to say it. Thanks to everyone who chimed in.
good luck tintt
Hang in there, tintt. As I told my ProPrac students, anyone can sue anyone for anything. But as Miles says, whether the case has any merit or not is the question: it could all just be hot air.