anyone know the going rate (cost per square foot) for doing as-built drawings in LA?
R.A. Rudolph
Apr 21, 05 8:11 pm
$25-50/hr
silverlake
Apr 21, 05 8:30 pm
thanks r.a. rudolph, but i was hoping to get a sound cost/sf number....
Archi-F
Apr 21, 05 8:37 pm
It can depend on a lot of differnet variables - that's probably the reason for the big range.
silverlake
Apr 21, 05 8:44 pm
its just taking measurements of an existing house and inputting the data into autocad. i've done this many a times but just never as an exclusive service.
R.A. Rudolph
Apr 21, 05 10:02 pm
Yeah, we've never done it as a sf charge because it's usually related to our own projects and the amount of detail required can vary tremendously. Do they want elevations as well as plans? Reflected ceiling plans? Interior elevations? I guess you could figure out how long it will take based on what they want, multiply it by your hourly rate, divide it by the square footage and hope you estimated well.
I wouldn't think it would be worth it to do it for a low sf cost though. My husband and I have both done it once and aren't looking to repeat the experience...
David Cuthbert
Apr 21, 05 11:30 pm
RA Rudolph is a chick? Whoa
Bula
Apr 22, 05 12:12 am
....classic jam-arch..
Silverlake- In case your unaware, make sure you cover your butt and limit your liability by avoiding the use of the term "as-built". Per AIA, the "courts have interpreted that term literally as certification of the accuracy of the information. When damages have resulted from later use of inaccurate data, courts have held the liability to rest with the preparer of the document - When the Architect prepared such documents, he was held liable".
Miles Jaffe
Dec 16, 18 9:43 am
VIF
WTF necro thread
o+
Apr 22, 05 12:30 am
1-2$ / s.f. is about what the as-built professionals charge.
have had several done around the LA area, mostly residential/1500sf+/- remodels, always between 2-3000$....
pia555
Apr 22, 05 6:28 am
Personally, I call them surveys. Anyway I did a 3000 sf residence and charged $600 fairly detailed survey took about 10 hours to complete. Then I did a 200 sf pool house a charged $500 because the guy wanted it yesterday. So figuring it by the cost/sf for me is not great way to determine the cost Next tueday I going to do a survey. If the ask they how much and in this case I doubt they will. I'll say something like 15 to 20 hours at 60.00 per hour. It may take me 25 hours but that just how it works. Sometimes depending who they are I'll hit them up for the extra time. Surveys are great work because you can easily satisfy they expectations. Unlike designing when revisions can go on and on and because they may seem unhappy your reluctant to charge for the extra time
silverlake
Apr 22, 05 11:59 am
thanks people, this is helpful..
bula- thanks for the heads up. on an unrelated project, i was getting some cad drawings from another firm who had done as-builts. they had about three pages in legal waivers that i had to sign just to get a bloody autocad file. now i know why!
R.A. Rudolph
Apr 22, 05 3:42 pm
What's with the surprise, jam-arch? or is that sarcastic :-)
I second the $1-$2/sf.
vado retro
Apr 22, 05 7:18 pm
these prices and the amount of time to measure and draw up a 3000 sq foot house seem high to me. to people should be able to measure a house that size in a few hours and to draw it up should nt take much more than that.
NWDraftingServices
Dec 15, 18 4:12 pm
I'm the owner of NW Drafting Services, llc, located in Portland, Oregon. I just bid a commercial project to prepare as-built drawings. There are 3 commercial buildings located on 2.11 acres. These buildings total 22,430 s.f. and my quote was based on $2/sf. The package will include a site plan, floor plans and elevations. In my 6 years of business, this will be the largest contract I have ever bid. I also teamed with a local surveyor to provide the site plan info which will be similar to and ALTA survey. Wish me luck!
poop876
Dec 16, 18 8:58 am
Hopefully it takes you 6 months to do this!
Non Sequitur
Dec 16, 18 1:37 pm
$2 a sq.ft seems very low.
randomised
Dec 16, 18 2:35 pm
Less than 50k for that kind of project, hope for you it's really just drafting, gonna be an eyesore nonetheless...my condolences to the local community.
poop876
Dec 16, 18 7:27 pm
I don't see how this can take that long at all to charge a client 40k even if you pay for the ALTA survey 10k.
Dennis Ogan
Dec 19, 18 6:52 pm
The owner responded and it looks like my bid is slightly off. Here is their response:
"Thank you for
getting the quote over to me. I reviewed the proposal briefly and it appears
that the scope that you are providing may be a bit more detailed than what we
ultimately need for this particular project. What we need are the dimensions of
the floor plan, calculated SF of each building, elevation drawings of at
least the facades of each building. In the past, this will usually run about
$4-6k. However, we do have some projects in the pipeline that will require
drawings at the scale in which you are proposing for this particular project. I
will keep you posted after Q1 on when those services will be required."
Should we move on or negotiate?
Non Sequitur
Dec 19, 18 7:10 pm
Move on. I won’t even do a 1000sqft commercial unit demo permit set for that.
Miles Jaffe
Dec 19, 18 7:31 pm
I would hardly call 10% of you bid 'slightly off'. Watch out for the bait and switch - take this job for peanuts because there is more work coming.
poop876
Dec 20, 18 10:44 am
Yup, the potential client is correct. There is no way the scope of measuring these buildings and drawing it up should take as long as you think. A week max! We do this frequently for our repeat clients.
anyone know the going rate (cost per square foot) for doing as-built drawings in LA?
$25-50/hr
thanks r.a. rudolph, but i was hoping to get a sound cost/sf number....
It can depend on a lot of differnet variables - that's probably the reason for the big range.
its just taking measurements of an existing house and inputting the data into autocad. i've done this many a times but just never as an exclusive service.
Yeah, we've never done it as a sf charge because it's usually related to our own projects and the amount of detail required can vary tremendously. Do they want elevations as well as plans? Reflected ceiling plans? Interior elevations? I guess you could figure out how long it will take based on what they want, multiply it by your hourly rate, divide it by the square footage and hope you estimated well.
I wouldn't think it would be worth it to do it for a low sf cost though. My husband and I have both done it once and aren't looking to repeat the experience...
RA Rudolph is a chick? Whoa
....classic jam-arch..
Silverlake- In case your unaware, make sure you cover your butt and limit your liability by avoiding the use of the term "as-built". Per AIA, the "courts have interpreted that term literally as certification of the accuracy of the information. When damages have resulted from later use of inaccurate data, courts have held the liability to rest with the preparer of the document - When the Architect prepared such documents, he was held liable".
VIF
WTF necro thread
1-2$ / s.f. is about what the as-built professionals charge.
have had several done around the LA area, mostly residential/1500sf+/- remodels, always between 2-3000$....
Personally, I call them surveys. Anyway I did a 3000 sf residence and charged $600 fairly detailed survey took about 10 hours to complete. Then I did a 200 sf pool house a charged $500 because the guy wanted it yesterday. So figuring it by the cost/sf for me is not great way to determine the cost Next tueday I going to do a survey. If the ask they how much and in this case I doubt they will. I'll say something like 15 to 20 hours at 60.00 per hour. It may take me 25 hours but that just how it works. Sometimes depending who they are I'll hit them up for the extra time. Surveys are great work because you can easily satisfy they expectations. Unlike designing when revisions can go on and on and because they may seem unhappy your reluctant to charge for the extra time
thanks people, this is helpful..
bula- thanks for the heads up. on an unrelated project, i was getting some cad drawings from another firm who had done as-builts. they had about three pages in legal waivers that i had to sign just to get a bloody autocad file. now i know why!
What's with the surprise, jam-arch? or is that sarcastic :-)
I second the $1-$2/sf.
these prices and the amount of time to measure and draw up a 3000 sq foot house seem high to me. to people should be able to measure a house that size in a few hours and to draw it up should nt take much more than that.
I'm the owner of NW Drafting Services, llc, located in Portland, Oregon. I just bid a commercial project to prepare as-built drawings. There are 3 commercial buildings located on 2.11 acres. These buildings total 22,430 s.f. and my quote was based on $2/sf. The package will include a site plan, floor plans and elevations. In my 6 years of business, this will be the largest contract I have ever bid. I also teamed with a local surveyor to provide the site plan info which will be similar to and ALTA survey. Wish me luck!
Hopefully it takes you 6 months to do this!
$2 a sq.ft seems very low.
Less than 50k for that kind of project, hope for you it's really just drafting, gonna be an eyesore nonetheless...my condolences to the local community.
I don't see how this can take that long at all to charge a client 40k even if you pay for the ALTA survey 10k.
The owner responded and it looks like my bid is slightly off. Here is their response:
"Thank you for getting the quote over to me. I reviewed the proposal briefly and it appears that the scope that you are providing may be a bit more detailed than what we ultimately need for this particular project. What we need are the dimensions of the floor plan, calculated SF of each building, elevation drawings of at least the facades of each building. In the past, this will usually run about $4-6k. However, we do have some projects in the pipeline that will require drawings at the scale in which you are proposing for this particular project. I will keep you posted after Q1 on when those services will be required."
Should we move on or negotiate?
Move on. I won’t even do a 1000sqft commercial unit demo permit set for that.
I would hardly call 10% of you bid 'slightly off'. Watch out for the bait and switch - take this job for peanuts because there is more work coming.
Yup, the potential client is correct. There is no way the scope of measuring these buildings and drawing it up should take as long as you think. A week max! We do this frequently for our repeat clients.